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Official Football Thread - 11/12

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Re: Official Football Thread - 11/12

Postby Innovation » Apr 7th, '12, 19:49

Menzo wrote:I wish Torres' strike went in, that would've been class.


Ditto. He's had a load of those moments. You have to feel sorry for him lol.
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Re: Official Football Thread - 11/12

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Apr 7th, '12, 21:28

What a strike!
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Re: Official Football Thread - 11/12

Postby _Steven_ » Apr 8th, '12, 11:57

Chelsea have the worst fucking fans i swear lol. 'Torres is unlucky i feel sorry for him'

Fuck outta here, you pay 50million for a player who's job is to score goals, when he doesn't do his job you don't feel sorry for him you kick him up the ass or fucking sell him on.

waste of 50 million, and you'll end up with no CL or PL trophies this year. very very sad.


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Re: Official Football Thread - 11/12

Postby Innovation » Apr 8th, '12, 12:16

_Steven_ wrote:Chelsea have the worst fucking fans i swear lol. 'Torres is unlucky i feel sorry for him'

Fuck outta here, you pay 50million for a player who's job is to score goals, when he doesn't do his job you don't feel sorry for him you kick him up the ass or fucking sell him on.


I've already said all of this.

No shit a £50m striker should be scoring all the time, but he has been down on confidence which affects every player. Is he worth £50m? No way, but when I see Torres strike a ball from 30 odd yards out and hit the bar whilst on a drought, yes I do consider him unlucky. When I see Torres do an amazing bicycle kick and hit the bar.. see where I'm going here? How about the gif I posted, I suppose that's not unlucky either right? So yeah, I do feel sorry for a player who's down on luck and gets constant stick.

I support the players who play for my club unless they're shocking. Contrary to popular belief, Torres has NOT been awful the past month. How does that make us the worst fans? Sorry we don't tell players to jog on if they have a bad patch.

_Steven_ wrote:and you'll end up with no CL or PL trophies this year. very very sad.


How can you bring up the CL when you didn't even make it past the group stage? Better yet, how about the Europa League? :laughing:

Also, what about the FA Cup? I love how you seemingly missed that trophy out.
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Re: Official Football Thread - 11/12

Postby SajN » Apr 8th, '12, 12:22

Innovation wrote:
_Steven_ wrote:and you'll end up with no CL or PL trophies this year. very very sad.


How can you bring up the CL when you didn't even make it past the group stage? Better yet, how about the Europa League? :laughing:

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Re: Official Football Thread - 11/12

Postby _Steven_ » Apr 8th, '12, 12:30

Innovation wrote:
_Steven_ wrote:Chelsea have the worst fucking fans i swear lol. 'Torres is unlucky i feel sorry for him'

Fuck outta here, you pay 50million for a player who's job is to score goals, when he doesn't do his job you don't feel sorry for him you kick him up the ass or fucking sell him on.


I've already said all of this.

No shit a £50m striker should be scoring all the time, but he has been down on confidence which affects every player. Is he worth £50m? No way, but when I see Torres strike a ball from 30-40 yards out and hit the bar whilst on a drought, yes I do consider him unlucky. When I see Torres do an amazing bicycle kick and hit the bar.. see where I'm going here? How about the gif I posted, I suppose that's not unlucky either right? So yeah, I do feel sorry for a player who's down on luck and gets constant stick.

I support the players who play for my club unless they're shocking. Contrary to popular belief, Torres has NOT been awful the past month. How does that make us the worst fans? Sorry we don't tell players to jog on if they have a bad patch.

_Steven_ wrote:and you'll end up with no CL or PL trophies this year. very very sad.


How can you bring up the CL when you didn't even make it past the group stage? Better yet, how about the Europa League? :laughing:

Also, what about the FA Cup? I love how you seemingly missed that trophy out.



Torres is a bad player lol. well for chelsea at least. he's a STRIKER. you expect at the very least from a high classed, highly rated striker at a top 4 club in the PL to be scoring 15 a season.

and theres no point arguing about the CL. i know we got knocked out the group stages, i know it was embarrassing, but either way we was never gonna beat barca or real was we? nor will any team, no point wasting time and tired legs for a lost cause.

with the money you spent on manager and players this season you should be in the top 3 at least in the PL. to be honest i think its an embarrassing season for chelsea.

Man united may of got knocked out in some compitions but at least we are in the drivers seat for the 20th PL title , a feat that chelsea will never ever see in the clubs existence.

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Re: Official Football Thread - 11/12

Postby Innovation » Apr 8th, '12, 12:35

_Steven_ wrote:and theres no point arguing about the CL. i know we got knocked out the group stages, i know it was embarrassing, but either way we was never gonna beat barca or real was we? nor will any team, no point wasting time and tired legs for a lost cause.


"Alright lads! We're not going to beat Barca or Real. So here's an idea, let's go out to Basel and miss out on CL money!" Ridiculous argument.

You still fail to mention that convincing Europa League defeat.

_Steven_ wrote:with the money you spent on manager and players this season you should be in the top 3 at least in the PL. to be honest i think its an embarrassing season for chelsea.


When did I ever argue against that?

_Steven_ wrote:Man united may of got knocked out in some compitions but at least we are in the drivers seat for the 20th PL title , a feat that chelsea will never ever see in the clubs existence.


Knocked out in "some" competitions lmfao.

Let's list them:
- Every single one

Done.
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Re: Official Football Thread - 11/12

Postby _Steven_ » Apr 8th, '12, 12:38

Innovation wrote:
_Steven_ wrote:and theres no point arguing about the CL. i know we got knocked out the group stages, i know it was embarrassing, but either way we was never gonna beat barca or real was we? nor will any team, no point wasting time and tired legs for a lost cause.


Alright lads! We're not going to beat Barca or Real. So here's an idea, let's go out to Basel and miss out on CL money! Ridiculous argument.

You still fail to mention that convincing Europa League defeat.

_Steven_ wrote:with the money you spent on manager and players this season you should be in the top 3 at least in the PL. to be honest i think its an embarrassing season for chelsea.


When did I ever argue against that?

_Steven_ wrote:Man united may of got knocked out in some compitions but at least we are in the drivers seat for the 20th PL title , a feat that chelsea will never ever see in the clubs existence.


Knocked out in "some" competitions lmfao.

Let's list them:
- Every single one

Done.



Failed to mention we are using a younger and less experienced team than usual this year, happens every so often under fergie, time and time again, we have a bad season or two and then go on to win most things once the team has peaked, whereas you have spent more money than us this season, and when you look back in 2 years time onto this season it will be 'united won there 20th PL title' chelsea didn't finish in top 4, and lost to barca in the CL. lol
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Re: Official Football Thread - 11/12

Postby CrashBand » Apr 8th, '12, 12:47

_Steven_ wrote:Torres is a bad player lol. well for chelsea at least. he's a STRIKER. you expect at the very least from a high classed, highly rated striker at a top 4 club in the PL to be scoring 15 a season.


Yes I agree he should be scoring in that range and has had an awful season. (up until recently. (which has pretty much saved his chelsea contract)

and theres no point arguing about the CL. i know we got knocked out the group stages, i know it was embarrassing, but either way we was never gonna beat barca or real was we? nor will any team, no point wasting time and tired legs for a lost cause.

I'm sorry but that is such a ridiculous statement.

with the money you spent on manager and players this season you should be in the top 3 at least in the PL. to be honest i think its an embarrassing season for chelsea.


Yes I agree it is a very disappointing season for us UNLESS we win the CL
but it will not be an embarrassing one if win FA and get 4th.
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Re: Official Football Thread - 11/12

Postby Innovation » Apr 8th, '12, 12:49

I fixed your quoting btw.

_Steven_ wrote:Failed to mention we are using a younger and less experienced team than usual this year, happens every so often under fergie, time and time again, we have a bad season or two and then go on to win most things once the team has peaked, whereas you have spent more money than us this season, and when you look back in 2 years time onto this season it will be 'united won there 20th PL title' chelsea didn't finish in top 4, and lost to barca in the CL. lol


I don't care if you were fielding rabbits, Utd getting completely dominated in the Europa League is hilarious. The way you're attacking Chelsea for still being in the CL just doesn't make sense. As far as I'm concerned Barca are one of the best teams in the world (if not the best), so losing to them is nothing to be ashamed of.
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Re: Official Football Thread - 11/12

Postby MikeNUFC » Apr 8th, '12, 12:55

Champions League this year isn't an issue as Chelsea don't have a chance. There's no point in mocking Man United for getting knocked out of the Champions League when Chelsea probably won't even be in it next year, and therefore won't be able to attract any world class players that they need to lift an ageing squad.

Mata is basically all that's kept Chelsea together this season and if they don't get Champions League, then I don't know why he'd stay. I really think he's wasted there at the moment.
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Re: Official Football Thread - 11/12

Postby Innovation » Apr 8th, '12, 13:05

MikeNUFC wrote:Champions League this year isn't an issue as Chelsea don't have a chance. There's no point in mocking Man United for getting knocked out of the Champions League when Chelsea probably won't even be in it next year, and therefore won't be able to attract any world class players that they need to lift an ageing squad.


I've never said I expect Chelsea to get past Barcelona and I know we pretty much have no chance. Regardless, I'm proud we've made this far.

Chelsea may not make the CL next season and I accept that. One of the arguments he used to attack Chelsea was how we've done well in a competition Utd got knocked out of. That doesn't make sense. So naturally, I will defend Chelsea.

Money talks in football. Using City as an example, Chelsea can still attract world class players if we're not in the CL next season. We all know Chelsea have an aging squad and it needs a refresh. That's what will happen in the summer. I also highly doubt Mata would leave Chelsea due to one bad season.
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Re: Official Football Thread - 11/12

Postby MikeNUFC » Apr 8th, '12, 13:10

It's a great achievement, no doubt. I don't even know what the argument was, to be fair, I just think you'd rather have 100% Champs League football next year, than struggling to make it with a near-impossible semi final.

I'm not so sure. Money has helped City attract players, but they're also getting more competitive every season, whereas Chelsea are going backwards and that may discourage players. Mata seems decently happy from what I've seen, but he's too good for a team that is 5th in the league, imo. I really don't think he's on the same wavelength as some of the other players, and he's slightly wasted.
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Re: Official Football Thread - 11/12

Postby _Steven_ » Apr 8th, '12, 13:16

my argument was that going out in the semi's rather than group stages will mean nothing in 2 years time when people look back, people only remember winners of trophies, example, nobody will laugh at united going out in group stages in 2 years but rather praise them for 20th PL title, same with chelsea, nobody will be praising them for getting to the semi's in 2 years lol.
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Re: Official Football Thread - 11/12

Postby Innovation » Apr 8th, '12, 13:19

MikeNUFC wrote:It's a great achievement, no doubt. I don't even know what the argument was, to be fair, I just think you'd rather have 100% Champs League football next year, than struggling to make it with a near-impossible semi final.


I'd much rather Chelsea be fourth than in the semi-final of the CL. Unfortunately that's not the case. But look, if Arsenal lose today we still have a good chance of making 4th. We need to press on and keep winning.

MikeNUFC wrote:I'm not so sure. Money has helped City attract players, but they're also getting more competitive every season, whereas Chelsea are going backwards and that may discourage players. Mata seems decently happy from what I've seen, but he's too good for a team that is 5th in the league, imo. I really don't think he's on the same wavelength as some of the other players, and he's slightly wasted.


Mata's been my favourite player this season, there's no doubting his talent, but too good for Chelsea? I wouldn't go that far. I still think we'll be able to attract some big names. If you sit a player down, tell them they'll be on £120,000+ a week, I'm sure they'll bite your hand off. Only time will tell though, whoever we bring in to takeover will have a huge task on their hands, that's for sure.
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