Synthetic Marijuana

[Jaz]

you can still plant your own.. Grown your own..

not man made..

haha, just thought that was a funny way to say that..

[TheHundred$]

Hmm why would they add additives to cigarettes then? Answer me that? Why did they take basic tabacco and add all the shit? Hmm...Why not keep it just tobacco in a cigarette.

Your right they wouldn't do that to weed to get people addicted therefore make millions on the product and also get people sick...to make millions on the medicine and healthcare they OWN...

Your ignorant.

[TheHundred$]

Word to Chet.

You just can't be stupid with it. I smoke in the privacy of a home. I never drive with it, or carry it on me.. Thats just stupid.

If i wanna go somewhere high.. I smoke before I leave.

Make it legal and it will never be the same product again.. it will just be a drug, chemically altered and harmful.

[mrjizzbomber]

Hmm why would they add additives to cigarettes then? Answer me that? Why did they take basic tabacco and add all the shit? Hmm...Why not keep it just tobacco in a cigarette.

Your right they wouldn't do that to weed to get people addicted therefore make millions on the product and also get people sick...to make millions on the medicine and healthcare they OWN...

Your ignorant.

Woah, wrong person to try to call out like that...

Nicotine is a naturally occurring chemical in tobacco plants - a big give away is the genus of the tobacco plant (Nicotiana). Nicotine is toxic to insects - which is the plant's benefit of producing the chemical in the first place. That is also the reason it causes psychoactive effects in humans.

Is it true that tobacco companies manipulate the process to produce cigarettes that contain a larger % per weight of nicotine than what naturally occurs? YES. But don't tell me that they take "basic tobacco" (you know, the naturally occurring nicotine-free type that doesn't exist) and "add" some foreign chemical into it to make it addictive.

People have smoked tobacco for hundreds and hundreds of years - LONG before they understood why it had psychoactive effects, and LONG before the chemical nicotine was discovered. Why do you think the Native American's smoked tobacco? They just enjoyed the sensation of igniting and inhaling dry leaves? No! They experienced the same effects and the same addiction we do today!

Also, they don't NEED to add anything to get people "addicted" to marijuana. We smoke pot anyway just fine, thank you. Do you really think in our modern day, FDA regulated, constantly monitored society a marijuana producing company will be able to just "slip in" addiction-causing chemicals without an uproar? One of the leading drivers of the movement to legalize pot is that it is NOT physically addictive. It wouldn't even be LEGAL to add foreign chemicals to make the substance addictive; not to mention the consumer reaction to such a deceptive, evil and dangerous move by any company would lead to an instant boycott of that brand of marijuana (its a free market economy, you think the marijuana company with the addicting-pot will win out? C'mon man.)

I think the lesson here is that you shouldn't call someone ignorant when you are clearly the person ignorant on the topic being discussed. Actually, you are apparently ignorant on the use of the word 'ignorant' itself, so heres a definition:

Ignorant, adjective: lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact

Seems like you're the ignorant one, "natural tobacco doesn't contain nicotine".

Oh, and at the very least, if you are going to throw the "I" bomb around, learn the difference between your and you're, because frankly... I don't own any "ignorant" so I'm not sure what you are referring to.

[FAME]

I haven't smoked pot before but I believe it's not right to smoke shit and drugs that were made by humans. Everyone instead light up the real green, we can trust the ground right!

[mrjizzbomber]

I haven't smoked pot before but I believe it's not right to smoke shit and drugs that were made by humans. Everyone instead light up the real green, we can trust the ground right!

Well... cocaine comes from the ground too, and I wouldn't ever advocate anyone using coke, never mind its legalization.

I think what we CAN trust is science and research. Science and research tells us marijuana is non-addictive, non-lethal (zero overdose potential), not heavily impairing (you will generally not lose the ability to function - to a certain extent, yes, but compare marijuana use to heavy alcohol use or more dangerous drugs and its not even close). The chronic effects aren't even significant, no worse than tobacco - and marijuana can be inhaled through a vaporizer cutting the chronic effects to a negligible amount. Research also tells us the "gateway" drug theory is an unfounded lie.

Really, the only thing holding back legalization is the stigma of pot, and the damage that years of propaganda and lies has done in this country. The only reasonable anti-legalization stance is to ban ALL substances. Everything. Otherwise, there is no logic to having THC be on the "banned" side of the fence.

But... I wouldn't just throw my trust at mother earth like that.

[TheHundred$]

When did I say Natural tobacco doesn't contain nicotine. I said Chemicals, I was not referring to naturally occurring substances in the tobacco.. That's like me saying THC doesn't naturally occur in Weed. Don't put words in my mouth.

I'm not talking about NICOTINE... I'm talking about all the other shit that is in cigarettes... Nicotine is added in extra doses like you said.. But I was referring to.

Chemicals in Cigarettes: Carcinogens

A carcinogen is defined as any substance that can cause or aggravate cancer. Approximately 60 of the chemicals in cigarettes are known to cause cancer.
TSNAs
Tobacco-specific N-nitrosamines (TSNAs) are known to be some of the most potent carcinogens present in smokeless tobacco, snuff and tobacco smoke.

Benzene
Benzene can be found in pesticides and gasoline. It is present in high levels in cigarette smoke and accounts for half of all human exposure to this hazardous chemical.

Pesticides
Pesticides are used on our lawns and gardens, and inhaled into our lungs via cigarette smoke.

Formaldehyde
Formaldehyde is a chemical used to preserve dead bodies, and is responsible for some of the nose, throat and eye irritation smokers experience when breathing in cigarette smoke.

and also

Chemicals in Cigarettes: Toxic Metals

Toxic / heavy metals are metals and metal compounds that have the potential to harm our health when absorbed or inhaled. In very small amounts, some of these metals support life, but when taken in large amounts, can become toxic.
Arsenic
Commonly used in rat poison, arsenic finds its way into cigarette smoke through some of the pesticides that are used in tobacco farming.

Cadmium
Cadmium is a toxic heavy metal that is used in batteries. Smokers typically have twice as much cadmium in their bodies as nonsmokers.

Chemicals in Cigarettes: Radioactive Toxic Metals

There are a couple of toxic metals in cigarette smoke that carry an extra punch of danger for anyone breathing it in: they are radioactive.
Radioactive Cigarette Smoke
Lead-210 (Pb-210) and polonium-210 (Po-210) are poisonous, radioactive heavy metals that research has shown to be present in cigarette smoke.

Chemicals in Cigarettes: Poisons

Poison is defined as any substance that, when introduced to a living organism, causes severe physical distress or death. Science has discovered approximately 200 poisonous gases in cigarette smoke.
Ammonia
Ammonia compounds are commonly used in cleaning products and fertilizers. Ammonia is also used to boost the impact of nicotine in manufactured cigarettes.

Carbon Monoxide
Carbon monoxide is present in car exhaust and is lethal in very large amounts. Cigarette smoke can contain high levels of carbon monoxide.

Hydrogen Cyanide
Hydrogen cyanide was used to kill people in the gas chambers in Nazi Germany during World War II. It can be found in cigarette smoke.

Nicotine
Nicotine is a poison used in pesticides and is the addictive element in cigarettes.


So do some more research before you post homeboy. All these chemicals are added into cigarettes without the need. The GOVERNMENT added them because cigarettes are addicting, and people will smoke it no matter what's in it. You really need to open your eyes to the fact the government wants to lower the population. Have you never seen those chemtrails out in the sky? or are you to IGNORANT and think they are just normal plane trails? Here i'll do the research for you.

http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html

http://www.chemtrails911.com/

The government would love to lower the population, and also DUMB THEM DOWN. That's why Marijuana will be legal and also thats why they would put EXTRA harmful chemicals in it to make people sick,and also to make people more addicted than they already are.. Your attitude that "Our government would never do something that evil" and "It's ILLEGAL to add those chemicals to make you addicted" (Not your exact words) is IGNORANT, You really think the government gives a fuck? Have you not kept track of all the illegal things they have done? They make the fuckin rules, they are all kinds of crooked and I think people can back me up on this.. if not dozens of articles can. I am calling you IGNORANT because you know "facts" but you are BLIND to the truths, I understand you THINK you know what's going on, but in reality you only know what THEY want YOU to KNOW. OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES.

[mrjizzbomber]

So do some more research before you post homeboy. All these chemicals are added into cigarettes without the need. The GOVERNMENT added them because cigarettes are addicting, and people will smoke it no matter what's in it. You really need to open your eyes to the fact the government wants to lower the population. Have you never seen those chemtrails out in the sky? or are you to IGNORANT and think they are just normal plane trails? Here i'll do the research for you.

You really, really, really don't know what you are talking about. If I had realized I was talking to a conspiracy theorist nutjob I wouldn't have bothered with my retort to begin with...

By the way, grammar lesson number two (that means 2, the number, as I see that homophone gives you a lot of trouble): When you want to call someone "to ignorant", you want to use 'too' not 'to'. I can send you my 2nd grade notebook if you need a reference.

[mrjizzbomber]

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/adnature.html

This is a pretty fantastic website that well-cites all its information. It shows the logical flaws in stupid arguments, such as "it's what ADDED to natural tobacco that is dangerous".

American Spirit uses the slogan "it's only natural" and claims that its cigarettes are "100% natural tobacco". Some smokers may buy American Spirit cigarettes because they believe that "natural" tobacco is in some way safer or healthier than tobacco that contains additives. However, the carcinogens in cigarettes that cause cancer are natural components of tobacco.

Once again,

However, the carcinogens in cigarettes that cause cancer are natural components of tobacco.

You provide me with a list of carcinogens in cigarettes, without providing me a list of carcinogens in natural tobacco, and without listing the carcinogens ONLY in cigarettes (not present in natural tobacco). And thats because they are in natural tobacco as well.

Will there be additional chemicals in processed cigarettes? Yes, as a result of the processing itself, and the burning of the paper. Any aggregate list you will read, by the way, does not mean that every chemical is in every cigarette. Oh, and by the way, you can find the list of chemicals and carcinogens present in natural marijuana, also.. they are there. This isn't anything new. These aren't chemicals that smokers haven't been exposed to for hundreds of years.

PS: I don't smoke cigarettes and would never condone them. It's just not worth it. Pot is actually fun, and non addicting (physical addiction).

[TheHundred$]

Lol seriously my dude.. It's whatever.


Peace.

[UzaKING]

You lost me with your last point. I guarantee you that once pot is legalize no one will add 'addictive' ingredients to the mix. I'm sure they will sell spliffs (marijuana & tobacco), which will contain nicotine, but pure pot will be readily available... it will be identical to how pot is sold in states that have legalized and regulated medical marijuana

I feel that once pot is legalized, people will begin to smoke whilst driving. That can't be good.

All of my friends smoke pot while driving its not a big deal

[Arrinef]

You lost me with your last point. I guarantee you that once pot is legalize no one will add 'addictive' ingredients to the mix. I'm sure they will sell spliffs (marijuana & tobacco), which will contain nicotine, but pure pot will be readily available... it will be identical to how pot is sold in states that have legalized and regulated medical marijuana

I feel that once pot is legalized, people will begin to smoke whilst driving. That can't be good.

it cant, i had a good friend of mine who died back in 06 cause he crashed while driving stoned.

people wsy weed dont kill it doesnt, only if your not responsible, or right minded

[mrjizzbomber]

You lost me with your last point. I guarantee you that once pot is legalize no one will add 'addictive' ingredients to the mix. I'm sure they will sell spliffs (marijuana & tobacco), which will contain nicotine, but pure pot will be readily available... it will be identical to how pot is sold in states that have legalized and regulated medical marijuana

I feel that once pot is legalized, people will begin to smoke whilst driving. That can't be good.

To me - that question boils down to who is responsible. The law will be 21+ to smoke - which is around the age I would think people would be responsible enough not to drive drugged.

So, will teenagers be driving stoned? I figure the big difference would really be: would teenagers have easier access to pot?

I have to think no, considering pot is already so readily available... but possibly, yes. What I for sure think is that part of the billions of dollars of revenue (from both taxing weed and diverting efforts of pursuing pot smokers) should go towards education and drug awareness.