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Re: .::Global Warming::.

Postby D@vid » Jul 4th, '07, 18:27

*MIRANDA* wrote:i pity the foo that "doesnt believe" in global warming :n:
of course the earth goes trough changes and one of them being climate-changes
in about 40.000 years i believe we gonna have another ice-age
thats just the way the world works, it follows its own rules .. its gonna explode sooner or later
but we as the human race are really messing with this with the amount of gasses we put out
it is getting hotter and icebergs are melting
i for one live in The Netherlands and i wouldnt like to see ma country "drown" in the next 40 years
cause that is gonna happen if its gonna continue at this rate
i dont think people understand the seriousnes of this
we should focus on is that it is really happening .. we are fucking up this planet
and we should do sumthing about it
thats just my opinion



just watch the movie....and al gore was wrong when he said the oceans would rise so much that we would lose a lot of land when actually they would only rise a few feet, so don't worry about losing ur country under water. we don't put out nearly as many gases into the atmosphere combined, as volcanoes do
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Re: .::Global Warming::.

Postby *MIRANDA* » Jul 4th, '07, 18:33

D@vid wrote:
*MIRANDA* wrote:i pity the foo that "doesnt believe" in global warming :n:
of course the earth goes trough changes and one of them being climate-changes
in about 40.000 years i believe we gonna have another ice-age
thats just the way the world works, it follows its own rules .. its gonna explode sooner or later
but we as the human race are really messing with this with the amount of gasses we put out
it is getting hotter and icebergs are melting
i for one live in The Netherlands and i wouldnt like to see ma country "drown" in the next 40 years
cause that is gonna happen if its gonna continue at this rate
i dont think people understand the seriousnes of this
we should focus on is that it is really happening .. we are fucking up this planet
and we should do sumthing about it
thats just my opinion



just watch the movie....and al gore was wrong when he said the oceans would rise so much that we would lose a lot of land when actually they would only rise a few feet, so don't worry about losing ur country under water. we don't put out nearly as many gases into the atmosphere combined, as volcanoes do


uhm no he wasnt or at least i believe he wasnt lying you obviously do :smoking:
and even if its gonna be "a few feet" like you said,
ma country is called "The Netherlands" there issa reason for that lol
it is a country that is very much so below sea level,
we have freaking dams all over the place a few feet would make a huge differance for us
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Re: .::Global Warming::.

Postby AspirinE » Jul 4th, '07, 18:34

so all the ppl from hundreds of years ago are stupid? they may not have had the same equipment, but they still had some way of collecting the data...

Yes, they were stupid, they collected basic data with no details.
and we can even learn about temperature changes from hundreds of years ago through ice samples,which is what they showed in that clip.

They showed nothing, they speculated, they said they found they found this and that, another scientist is gonna tell u they found a complete opposite. And 100 years of steep climate change isnt gonna be reflected on how the ice will be till people exploring it 1000 years after our era examine it

nobody said the gases don't exist, its just that we aren't the major contributors to it and they may not be the reason for the temperature changes.

We emit greenhouse gases 24/12/365 and continue increasing, it has already undoubted effect regionally(cities get warmer) and it has effects on the ice caps too since we dump waste in oceans and and in the atmosphere.
the earth is gonna be nonexistent some day, why couldn't it be now? why can't the earth be starting to go through a process that will kill us all?

ohh yes... doomsday... lets just emitt more waste then, fuck it lets just drop uranium rods in the oceans too while we're at it.

and now ur for the government controlling what we do and u believe what they say? its just another bs way for the government to scare everybody. quit buying into an industry that supports nonsense and dumbasses

The government profits from selling oil, its a major economic value, its not in their interest to support the global warming theory as it would put stress on them to implement immission regulation like the european union countries have. You're the one dickriding the industry in this case.


Besides, lets put it this way.... are u saying "lets pollute and lets emit, its getting hoter anyway, so why not just add some more greenhouse gases to keep in the extra heat the sun is sending us" ?
coz thats the vibe i get.

It doesnt make sense, you do CAN NOT argue that greenhouse gasses do not effect the invoroment.. as they clearly do, they make our cities polluted and unclean.. i don't see why you would not want to subimtt to cutting down emissions according to international law or better yet work on discovering new energy sources to replace this oil aristocracy that clearly just is too valuable to be switched to the new resources we have now. Cutting down emissions is the primary goal of people that bring up the global warming issue, its not that ur going to die from it in the next years, its a pretext that ur children will consume that shit that u will be emitting when ur dead.

Denying effect of the massive amounts of gases we produce on our planet, is bizarre and is just plain ignorant, since the actions taken for global warming precautions are only positive, its not like somebody is asking you to go to war.




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Volcanoes errupt every like 100-400 years if not more, comparing an enourmous volcano that blows up islands to the amount of gas produced by cars during one day, would prolly make the numbers somewhat equal.

But we drive cars 365 days a year. thats definately more than one volcano erupting. Infact its like they are blowing up everyday.

But even cosidering that we emit even "less" then volcano's, we are still adding an extra constantly. Thats like a fat man telling you he wont stop eating, since hes already 5 ft wide and one hot dog more wont hurt him or his weak ass heart.
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Re: .::Global Warming::.

Postby D@vid » Jul 4th, '07, 19:10

i really dont wanna argue cuz u will never change ur mind on anything, but i never said we shouldn't regulate it, and the government does have an interest in telling us this because yet again they wanna put fear into u. there is no real proof that u have that putting greenhouse gases into the atmosphere is contributing to the earth's warming. it could just be a coincidence. its been a trend for hundreds and even millions of years probably, so of course the earth is gonna warm up and cool off like it is. and new energy sources are stupid. it takes more energy to produce most of them and to transport them than to just use the oil we have now, and it seems like they get nowhere with them. im not gonna put my money on the government or scientists finding something soon, when they kinda know that oil isn't majorly contributing to greenhouse gases and affecting us. they wanna try and just keep saying bs to make u believe in it, and believe that we need to change and that we should do something cuz they all want to be in office and have power. the government will do anything for power, and its obvious that this global warming nonsense has caught some ppl's attention, so they talk about it and its effects and then want us to vote them in office so they can help make the world better, which will never happen cuz all politicians are dumb. (off topic kinda, but got the point across for why they say what they say) i guess u know that the earth is going through all these changes from us, and that it couldn't be just a natural thing. i never said not to regulate it. i was just pointing out that u, someone so against the government it seems, wants to agree with them on regulating us and telling us what to do. it may be good to regulate it, but i never said i dont want to. i was just saying that they don't contribute to the problem, so why bother making a big deal out of it. it may make u more healthy to not have the shit in the air, but it seems to me that most ppl are living a healthy life. and volcanoes dont have to explode to emit shit. they always are emitting gases :confusion: so saying that they contribute more gases is possible, its not a narrow-minded thing to say

the only reason scientists say this shit, just like the whole Y2K and bird flu shit, is to make ppl worry and then make the government give them grant money to "research" it. its all nonsense, considering most of the ppl that complain about it are flying all over the world and driving big ass vehicles. stop letting the government make u feel feared
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Re: .::Global Warming::.

Postby AspirinE » Jul 4th, '07, 19:32

i really dont wanna argue cuz u will never change ur mind on anything, but i never said we shouldn't regulate it, and the government does have an interest in telling us this because yet again they wanna put fear into u.

This is one exact thing that they don't want you to fear, because the industry saves mney ... alot of money by emitting, and look at europeans... and then at americans... whos more scared? Europeans aknowledge the effects to some degree and that helps them sleep at night.
there is no real proof that u have that putting greenhouse gases into the atmosphere is contributing to the earth's warming. it could just be a coincidence. its been a trend for hundreds and even millions of years probably, so of course the earth is gonna warm up and cool off like it is.

:roll: Comets can hit earth and cause the same effect green house gases would and kill millions... does that mean u want a comet to hit your planet? Its not a trend u can trace, no scientist in this world can determine wat happens in a duration of a hundred ears certainly. In these 100 years the weather did get hotter proportionally to industry growth though, certainly more proof, and sorry no we wont live 1000 years to then look back and say, yeah we right back then.

and new energy sources are stupid. it takes more energy to produce most of them and to transport them than to just use the oil we have now, and it seems like they get nowhere with them.

Ohh yeah, they didnt invent a car that drives on water in this decade right? Lol. Oil is a useless waste of money, you pay for random assholes mercedeses because they tell u that its the only thing

im not gonna put my money on the government or scientists finding something soon, when they kinda know that oil isn't majorly contributing to greenhouse gases and affecting us. they wanna try and just keep saying bs to make u believe in it, and believe that we need to change and that we should do something cuz they all want to be in office and have power. the government will do anything for power, and its obvious that this global warming nonsense has caught some ppl's attention, so they talk about it and its effects and then want us to vote them in office so they can help make the world better, which will never happen cuz all politicians are dumb


You are clueless, the governments live of oil, its what you dumbasses are fighting for in the middle east right now. The government profits from oil... which part of that do you not understand. It would be stupid for them to support the global warming conclusion. What did Furher Bush say about it? he said exactly the same dumb shit that video says only in caveman slang broken english in one sentence.
So far his policy has been nothing but what you described and i find that in no way suprising that he dont support it.


. (off topic kinda, but got the point across for why they say what they say) i guess u know that the earth is going through all these changes from us, and that it couldn't be just a natural thing. i never said not to regulate it. i was just pointing out that u, someone so against the government it seems, wants to agree with them on regulating us and telling us what to do. it may be good to regulate it, but i never said i dont want to. i was just saying that they don't contribute to the problem, so why bother making a big deal out of it. it may make u more healthy to not have the shit in the air, but it seems to me that most ppl are living a healthy life. and volcanoes dont have to explode to emit shit. they always are emitting gases :confusion: so saying that they contribute more gases is possible, its not a narrow-minded thing to say

Seriously if not gonna back up ur own government statements on how they profit from inforcing emission policies don't talk about it. Coz what you're saying makes 0 sense. Especially given the fact that its oil and car industry we talking about and how the governement its those industries that are gonna be taxed for emission and the goverment lives of oil so they naturally support the car industry.

the only reason scientists say this shit, just like the whole Y2K and bird flu shit, is to make ppl worry and then make the government give them grant money to "research" it. its all nonsense, considering most of the ppl that complain about it are flying all over the world and driving big ass vehicles. stop letting the government make u feel feared


Y2K and bird flu and not comparable to global warming, id say its more like aids, afterall nobody thought it would spread with such desastrous proportions in the first place.

The government wouldnt make me feel feared if they controlled the industry on emissions and put money in to extra energy resources. It would make my life cleaner and better.
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Re: .::Global Warming::.

Postby D@vid » Jul 4th, '07, 19:42

yet again, we can go back and forth on this. im not gonna waste a bunch of energy ;) debating something that we aren't gonna agree on, as usual. ur using more of a guess and conspiracies, than actual data to prove something. which makes it harder for me to believe
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Re: .::Global Warming::.

Postby AspirinE » Jul 4th, '07, 19:46

D@vid wrote:yet again, we can go back and forth on this. im not gonna waste a bunch of energy ;) debating something that we aren't gonna agree on, as usual. ur using more of a guess and conspiracies, than actual data to prove something. which makes it harder for me to believe



Ha ha... guess and conspiracies, ur the one thinking that the govenment is orchestrating global warming so u "fear" ... Omg *gets scared of emission cut downs and hydrogen powered cars*
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Re: .::Global Warming::.

Postby D@vid » Jul 4th, '07, 19:50

ok, so i had one conspiracy. but u still have no proof for what u say

again, i never said don't cut down emissions and i never said to not like hydrogen powered cars... its just that right now it takes more energy to use hydrogen than to just use oil
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Re: .::Global Warming::.

Postby AspirinE » Jul 4th, '07, 20:05

ok, so i had one conspiracy. but u still have no proof for what u say

That green house gases can create a rise in global temperature? I do not even need to prove it, its basic science. Its been already proven and its the reason that emissions are now regulated.

again, i never said don't cut down emissions and i never said to not like hydrogen powered cars... its just that right now it takes more energy to use hydrogen than to just use oil

You do realise that it use to be hard to use oil to back in the days? it needs developement, what point is there for overpaying for something that could cost a lot less? And better yet that it could be better for inviroment.
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Re: .::Global Warming::.

Postby Wallace » Jul 5th, '07, 23:48

I used to accept all the thing media put on my head about the global warming, but recently I got mind and I'm seeing the other side. There's so much manipulation in the world... I think we all know that. Maybe the global warming be true, but it's used to make the people get scared and the leaders manipulate som'thin'... the reality is hard to know....we can't trust scientists, cuz they can be bought too...
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Re: .::Global Warming::.

Postby Kez » Jul 11th, '07, 23:08

Yeah saw this on channel 4 the other month

It's much more convincing than the current story, but it does seem that the current story is correct. I mean, what with the rising floods and freak weather events and heat an all that shit

But it is a very plausible situation (the situation described in this video)
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Re: .::Global Warming::.

Postby LoCoScousa » Jul 20th, '07, 10:06

It's a load of shit. And I'll be fucking damned if the government, or society deem me a criminal because I don't buy into their horse shit.

They go drilling for ice in the artic.... because ice is the best recorder of atmospheric conditions for tens of thousands of years. And guess what. The ice cores extracted show a history of ever changing atmospheric conditions.

If it isn't man throwing tons of carbon into the atmosphere, it's undersea volcanoes. Volcanoes on land. Not to mention sulphur and all the other poisonous gases the earth produces.

Global warming happens. You cannot stop nature when she decides to turn. If anyone needs any proof, just look at New Orleans.

The only people who think they can prevent global warming are people deluded enough to believe that they can stop nature. And they can't.


I agree with being kind to the enviroment and only taking/using what you need. But fuck anyone that looks down on me or criminalises me for not buying into the bullshit that I alone am to blame for the earth warming up.
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