joelle wrote:I'm just going to say one more thing, and then I'm done, too.
The disrespect most of these theories and supporters of such towards the victims of these attacks is absolutely astounding. It truly disgusts me.
For Dylan Avery to label the phone calls of the victims to their friends and family as "extremely peculiar"..to suggest these calls were never made so "none of it matters"..to completely demean their deaths and causes of such..to flat-out tell the families of the victims of Flight 93 that the plane had not been overthrown and driven into a Pennsylvania field, when 95% of the plane was recovered and all the passengers were identified..for him to then shrug off questions of where all the passengers were by saying "I don't know. I only have theories"..for him to suggest the calls made were artificial, that the callers were being impersonated and the people who received the calls couldn't even realize it wasn't their loved one on the other end..and THEN for supporters of these theories to say things like (and I quote), "I think these people that think Flight 93 is a great movie, are using it to hide their pain. They don't want to admit to the truth and they would much rather believe their familiy members were heros."wtf? I sincerely hope this douche gets his ass kicked.
I mean, I really didn't think this much bullshit disrespect could be possible. That's really what angers me most about these theories. Yes, theories, because you cannot prove they are true, no more than Dylan Avery or Alex Jones can. Loose Change has so many holes in it, it's ridiculous, from the number of passengers per flight, to facts and numbers and unnecessary assumptions...there are 200+ errors in a movie that's just over an hour long, I believe. I realize this discussion also encumbers Alex Jones' film, but since the prick Dylan Avery worships him, I can only imagine what he's saying.
Honestly, it's the most insulting thing in the world to take a tragedy that happened and twist it just because most of the supporters want to be anti-government. So real, your signature, "FUCK BUSH", just emphasizes my point. And also.."The plan, however, was rejected by the Kennedy administration." <--- That right there is my point. First of all, just because someone had an idea years ago does not mean it pertains to what happened on 9-11. Secondly, of course people are capable of senseless murder. But an entire government, military, FBI, demolition crew, dozens of experts, etc etc etc etc? A little paranoia is healthy. But that's just ridiculous.
And Bar..I still don't buy it. I really don't. I don't buy the reasonings behind the government pulling this off. So we'd be nationalistic for about a month? 3,000 lives just so we'd like America a little bit more? Or how about the "rally America against arabs" angle? Since when does the gov need an excuse to start a war against public opinion? Even THIS war in Iraq is against public opinion. None of this shit adds up. At first when I heard about the conspiracy, I was surprised and interested. Then, I was convinced. Then, I was skeptical. Now I'm just downright offended. There's not a single part of this theory that makes unquestionable sense or has hard, tangible evidence that I can see (and believe me, I've tried to see. I thought that with a good percentage of people buying this, there had to be at least ONE substantial point. I've yet to find one that cannot be countered with something that makes just as much, if not more, sense).
All I ask is that we give the victims and their families some fucking respect.
Ok. I'm done for real now.
er respect? the victims own families want government to answer questions > 911truth.com
First of all, just because someone had an idea years ago does not mean it pertains to what happened on 9-11.
someone? er read again thats your GOVERNMENT MILITARY OFFICIALS who wrote them ideas not some random joe bloggs of the street.
it's the most insulting thing in the world to take a tragedy that happened and twist it just because most of the supporters want to be anti-government. So real, your signature, "FUCK BUSH", just emphasizes my point.
im far from anti-government,i think its healty we have powerful nations to try and prevent such accurances as we saw in nazi germany...im arguing about our currupt current governments actions not attacking the government system.
I really didn't think this much bullshit disrespect could be possible.
you better belive it ,the government your backing up assasinated the peoples elected president,jfk. I think itd be more disrespectful not to question september 11 events because there ARE so many unanswerd questions that the government officials are doing them damn best to avoid answering.
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Let's remember one thing, no one allowed them to go to war with Iraq anyway. Nato told them not to, but they did anyway. Why the fuck would they kill 3000 people to do what's perfectly easy anyway, they didn't even do it because of 911, they blamed it on the threat of Mass Destruction.
er when 911 happend they instantly had the majority of american public behind them seeking revenge or some sort of justice.united kingdom also jumped in...i also believe italy,france and spain all joined the war.It wernt all just about reasonings to take the country to war it was to put fear into the people.Each speech bush or his officials do its always 'terror ' 'terrorism' 'mass terror' .
America is like a bee hive and the government are coming along with a stick smacking the hive to make the bees (us) react....each time they want us to do their dirty work they smack that hive...if a few bees get squashed along the way thats by and by.
When they want to implement a global i.d card system what excuse do they use for doing so???? global terrorism! When they wanna rob a middle east country of its resources (oil) what do they blame???? global terrorism!
Your mistaken also fordie , When the war broke out it broke out on the basis of capturing Bin Laden.Because they were failing miserably at doing so the war suddenly became about Nuclear Missles.Government KNEW sadam hussain had chemical warheads we bloody sold them to iraqi in 1990's!!!! it was a perfect excuse to give america the justice it was crying for and to get a new source of such a declining energy source in the process.
Now the war and its reasons are finally being questioned and government are being forced to back out and im sure eventually they will.For how long??? who knows but when we're all being shipped of to fight a world war fordie we'll see who ''gullible'' then.