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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby threeandtwenty » Apr 25th, '09, 08:47

McMaybe wrote:I Saudi Arabia a bow is not a sign of respect, it's to show your place beneath the opposing person. So no, it was a dumb AND wrong move.


if what you're saying is right then i totally agree....but,(and im not trying to condescend on your opinion here,) how many cultures have a gesture to denote submission?

...did they both bow to each other?the answer to that would settle things for me.if he did it alone,then dude got a political cap popped in his ass.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby James R. » Apr 25th, '09, 15:18

I looked it up and I can't find anything saying that Saudi Dictator bowed to anyone
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby mcZu » Apr 25th, '09, 17:36

James R. wrote:I looked it up and I can't find anything saying that Saudi Dictator bowed to anyone


That’s why it's ridiculous; even in Japan if you bow for someone, the other person is supposed to bow back. And considering this isn't Japan, it's just wrong. There is no such a thing as a 'bow-out-of-respect' thing going in the Arabic culture, and if you bow for someone it’s considered submission.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby mcZu » Apr 25th, '09, 17:48

Chet Starr wrote:The thing is, is it really such a big deal?


In terms of fucking up as a politician in the eyes of the people that already disslike you, it is.
Overall it isn't a tradegy; however, it was a stupid thing to do. That way he gave the wrong impression to the rest of the world. By bowing down to a person who has disgraced your nation, you kinda give away an impression of weakness. Even if Obama ment it out of respect, a handshake should have been more then enough.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby mcZu » Apr 25th, '09, 17:58

Chet Starr wrote:Like you said, it isn't no where near a tragedy. So from my point of view, Obama is having a shaky start, but is turning into a good president.


Let's hope so.
Chet Starr wrote:Too bad the free mason's are controlling his mind


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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby BlaqReaper » Apr 29th, '09, 09:10

McMaybe wrote:
threeandtwenty wrote:
McMaybe wrote:I Saudi Arabia a bow is not a sign of respect, it's to show your place beneath the opposing person. So no, it was a dumb AND wrong move.


if what you're saying is right then i totally agree....but,(and im not trying to condescend on your opinion here,) how many cultures have a gesture to denote submission?

...did they both bow to each other?the answer to that would settle things for me.if he did it alone,then dude got a political cap popped in his ass.



It just so happens that Saudi Arabia doesn't fall under the same rules that apply in japan. Also, the Dictator didn't even put his hand out to shake, Obama simply bowed. :y:

Not gonna argue with you McMaybe (because I can see where you're coming from and it's understandable and don't think it's something that can be changed), but the dictator did hold out his hand to shake. Just wanted to correct that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1yb2AwQJG8

I linked the video earlier^ It shows the Saudi Arabian king shaking hands with Obama as he takes his bow.
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby kalbird » Apr 30th, '09, 12:43

imarun10 wrote:His bow was meant to be respectful, and it should only be taken in that context. The Middle Eastern world is in chaos so why shouldn't he try to show some respect so that they could work on restoring order.

Only thick headed, ignorant people refuse to work with the enemy. If you don't work with each other, your problems are never going to be solved. I completely agree with Obama's move.

:y: :y: :y: :y: YO comment was so cool n yo damn right!!! I dont giv a shit about what others will say but that's truce!!!
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby James R. » Apr 30th, '09, 14:46

kalbird wrote: :y: :y: :y: :y: YO comment was so cool n yo damn right!!! I dont giv a shit about what others will say but that's truce!!!

wtf are you talking about?
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby Shady'baby. » May 1st, '09, 17:46

Im not from the Usa but i dont believe in a presidents power for a while now, im one of those people that believes that they are controlled by other people, maybe i watched to many conspiracy movies :/
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby Deadishot » May 1st, '09, 19:41

Shady'baby. wrote:Im not from the Usa but i dont believe in a presidents power for a while now, im one of those people that believes that they are controlled by other people, maybe i watched to many conspiracy movies :/


Wellll according to our constitution, congress has the most power (aka the people) and the president barely has any., however due to a terribad congress for way to many years, presidents have been abusing and taking more power little by little.

about the topic, i see where both sides are coming from, i think obama is an idiot to begin with, but him bowing, i just see it as he is a politician and is just faking the bow to get in the good gracious with the Saudi Arabian dude. Bowing may be interpreted differently there, but here in the states no one bows to their superior. So it may have ment something in S.A. and they can think they have our respect and 'submission' but in America it doesn't mean shit.

thats just my two cents..
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby Tash8 » May 11th, '09, 23:57

i dont see it as that big of a deal, but yes he shouldn't have done that, i mean bowing down isn't a typical thing you'd do. BUT i believe making a big deal out of nothing... he wasn't trying to disrespect America by it, he wasn't trying to do anything negative by it... if the media hype around it wasn't so large i bet you it would have gone on being nothing... but it's because of people like you maybe, and fox news and cnn that it starts mattering.... bush kissed the guy for christsakes, i ain't hear nobody say anything about that...
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Re: Obama is an idiot. Jeez.

Postby <Stiiccy> » May 13th, '09, 04:48

Pwned^

btw Bush graduated from an Ivy league college somthing that not many dumb people do :flower: ...

anyways...Obama should have made the Saudi guy bow to him...why? because he is superior to him in all ways..Obama leads the greatest nation in the worlds history..why the fuck should he bow?

Obama grow some fuckin balls and start mackin them fuckin hoes over there...yeah...

or take a fuckin AK put it down everyone of those fuckin middle eastern assholes throat and end there shit right then and there...

i mean shit...cmon Obama mack them fuckin hoes dawg...

word to mutha... :tounge2:
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