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September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 11th, '08, 16:15

Ok I've been hearing and researching 9/11 for a few years now. I'm sure everyone has heard about the 9/11 conpiracy, some which are ridiculous and some which seem to make sense, but I was curious what everyone thinks.

There are two main theories that conspiracy's point to: Either the gov't let it happen or actually executed it themselves. There is also the obvious theory that it happened as we were told.

I am putting this debate out there with the utmost respect to everyone who died, all of their families, and to all the first responders who have either died from their lies about the air after 9/11 and those who are fighting to live because of it.
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Re: September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 11th, '08, 16:21

Chet wrote:I believe the government had nothing to do with it.

I'll never forget that day. I skipped school and was home alone, and got to see the 1st news breaks. I was ten back then and totally freak out. Thinking there was gonna be a war outside my house and all over America.

RIP to the victims


I remember walking home that day, I was 13 I think, yeah just about to turn 14, and all I remember thinking was that I they were going to re-instate the draft and I'd be going to war to fight for our country. I'm pretty sure that was the day I honestly became a man at least mentally, because something like that was such a hard thing to swallow.

Have you ever researched any theories or that's just what you fully believe?
Either way I respect your opinion I'm just curious.
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Re: September 11th

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Sep 11th, '08, 16:27

i was 10 or 11 at the time in primary school was doin maths when a teacher ran into the room and grabbed my teacher whispered in her ear and then everyone was rushed the the AV room were the news was on, it was one of the most sureal moments coz you could see all the teachers faces totally drop and some had tears in there eye's. i didnt relise the extent of it till i went home and got it explained to me but it was still a weird moment.



and im all for debating this i just have did it so many times that i cant be arsed, if you want to discuss it again there's a thread in here thats like 10+ pages long so i suggest reading that and commenting to start the discussion back up, everything has allready put there thoughts and theoprys across in the previous thread.
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Re: September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 11th, '08, 16:30

I've researched it pretty extensively for school papers and for my own personal interest and have found some pretty ridiculous stuff. Many inconsistancies, eye witness accounts, news coverage from that day, reasons for doing what they did i.e. very good motives etc. So I think my stance on it is that they had to either know it was going to happen and let it happen or they were somehow directly involved. Label however you want but I feel I've done enough research to have a viable opinion. It just interests me a great deal and started this to see what everyone else thought. Thanks for your opinions Chet.
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Re: September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 11th, '08, 16:31

,-,'-{Bar}-',-, wrote:i was 10 or 11 at the time in primary school was doin maths when a teacher ran into the room and grabbed my teacher whispered in her ear and then everyone was rushed the the AV room were the news was on, it was one of the most sureal moments coz you could see all the teachers faces totally drop and some had tears in there eye's. i didnt relise the extent of it till i went home and got it explained to me but it was still a weird moment.



and im all for debating this i just have did it so many times that i cant be arsed, if you want to discuss it again there's a thread in here thats like 10+ pages long so i suggest reading that and commenting to start the discussion back up, everything has allready put there thoughts and theoprys across in the previous thread.


Ok well I didn't know there was a previous thread, that's my fault for not checking, but since it's up maybe new members or people with new thoughts will post, thanks for joining in on the discussion anyway Bar.
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Re: September 11th

Postby Arabian Shady » Sep 11th, '08, 16:36

i had just come back frm skool and i switched on the TV and i saw the news, i was liked WTF..
seriously i was just freaked out,no emotion of any kind cause i had never seen a mass destruction of such sort, who would've thought that one day such an event would occur and that one day could change our lives forever...
i mean look at it, since the attacks there has been that unceasing search for osama and al qaeda but to no avail, it just lead to increasing popularity of the "attacker's" who now turned victims cause the bush administration responded with blunt and brutal force. event in the recent months have unfolded at such a pace that frankly I BELIEVE that the world map that YOU and I see today will change...
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Re: September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 11th, '08, 16:36

Killa wrote:I find it hard to belive they had nothing to do with the attacks after watching several videos. Most people just cant be assed to watch thm so will always defend america in there actions but seriously anyone who has the time needs to watch them.

http://www.forum.trshady.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=34805

^ It was the goverment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (So real kills it in there lol)


Damn thanks for that I'm going to watch it, sorry again for not checking previous posts.

Edit: Saw them
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Re: September 11th

Postby vermin » Sep 11th, '08, 22:00

Conspiracy or not (I think it is), R.I.P. to all of the victims. And BIG UP to firemen, and all the people who helped. (I mean there is people who climbed 40 floors for saving other guys).

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Re: September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 11th, '08, 22:50

vermin wrote:Conspiracy or not (I think it is), R.I.P. to all of the victims. And BIG UP to firemen, and all the people who helped. (I mean there is people who climbed 40 floors for saving other guys).

Never again!!


Yeah I mean idk how to see it as anything but a conspiracy at this point.
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Re: September 11th

Postby Epidemik » Sep 11th, '08, 23:46

ya definitly government executed.... i mean, the government still claims a plane hit the pentagon.. and disintigrated all parts of the plane on impact.. when clearly the hole in the side of the pentagon isn't even big enough to fit a boeing 757.

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oh and how the fuck did world trade center tower 7 fall??
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Re: September 11th

Postby Robbie G » Sep 12th, '08, 00:24

I was pretty young when it happened so I remember it but I don't think I really grasped it at the time.

I not going to discuss the theories because I think they are foolish.

For the past week in school we've watched several documentaries of 911. To be honest they were almost scary. Just watching the plane hit the towers in live footage, then the second plane hitting and the collapsing. I had shivers going through my body.

Has anybody seen the footage by two french filmers that were with the fire crew that responded to the attacks? It was amazing they were in the towers when they collapsed, and running from the smoke it as just great but horrifying footage.
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Re: September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 12th, '08, 00:38

Shady Babie wrote:I was pretty young when it happened so I remember it but I don't think I really grasped it at the time.

I not going to discuss the theories because I think they are foolish.

For the past week in school we've watched several documentaries of 911. To be honest they were almost scary. Just watching the plane hit the towers in live footage, then the second plane hitting and the collapsing. I had shivers going through my body.

Has anybody seen the footage by two french filmers that were with the fire crew that responded to the attacks? It was amazing they were in the towers when they collapsed, and running from the smoke it as just great but horrifying footage.


They are foolish because you don't believe them or you have never really learned about them.
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Re: September 11th

Postby Robbie G » Sep 12th, '08, 00:46

I have my reasons but I don't really want to type them all up. I respect other peoples opinions but I just don't buy any of the theories.
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Re: September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 12th, '08, 06:48

The gov't was involved there's too many contradictions and reasons for doing it. It makes me sick. god bless those who died.
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Re: September 11th

Postby <Stiiccy> » Sep 12th, '08, 06:55

Emadyville wrote:The gov't was involved there's too many contradictions and reasons for doing it. It makes me sick. god bless those who died.

you dont seriously believe that america would attack itself do you?
wow dude thats sad for you to think somthing like that
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