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Imagine This :|

Postby Low Key » Jan 30th, '10, 21:24

imagine there was no law saying that you're not allowed to kill/murder people. basically, murdering people is allowed and no legal action would take place if you were to kill.

what would that change in this word? what are your thoughts on this?

this question always has me thinking for ages as to what it would actually be like.
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Re: Imagine This :|

Postby Spyder » Jan 30th, '10, 21:26

i think its pretty obvious... alot more murders...

not a rediculous amount because if u killed someone then someone else would prolly kill you in revenge
and just go in some huge circle.

alot of people wouldnt do it because of religion


but the earth would die out ALOT faster
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Re: Imagine This :|

Postby Raquel » Jan 30th, '10, 21:28

there will be a lot of murders

Would be crazy, no law? I would have killed some people then.
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Re: Imagine This :|

Postby Low Key » Jan 30th, '10, 21:34

yeah, basically we'd be living like tigers, or lions, or any other animal that lives in the wild. it's crazy how much control we have on our lives. there is actually nothing stopping the world becoming a huge riot, even with laws. a scary thought.
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Re: Imagine This :|

Postby Low Key » Jan 30th, '10, 22:12

Adam Quinn wrote:Anarchy

It's dumb because the world needs Government but I would actually welcome a world of anarchy. It's the people who couldn't survive who are against it, IMO. It would be chaos and the end of life as we all know it.


yeah. ppl would kill for the stupidest reasons. jealousy being one of them, greed etc. would be fucked.
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Re: Imagine This :|

Postby Kosovic » Jan 30th, '10, 22:35

Really? Oh really? You people done killed someone and you know how easy it is right?
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Re: Imagine This :|

Postby embm » Jan 30th, '10, 22:42

apoclypse 2
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Re: Imagine This :|

Postby mrjizzbomber » Feb 3rd, '10, 20:58

This makes me think of another scenario. Similar in concept, ish.

What is everyone was mandated to carry a firearm? Thereby, everyone has the ability to shoot at anyone at all times; BUT, everyone also effectively becomes a police officer.

What would happen? School shootings would likely become extinct, as there are 30 armed people around the potential shooter at all times. Non-homicidal crimes (robbery, rape, muggings, assault) would fade away - why try to rape someone when they are armed? Are you going to risk your life for that attack?

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Re: Imagine This :|

Postby Low Key » Feb 3rd, '10, 21:01

mrjizzbomber wrote:This makes me think of another scenario. Similar in concept, ish.

What is everyone was mandated to carry a firearm? Thereby, everyone has the ability to shoot at anyone at all times; BUT, everyone also effectively becomes a police officer.

What would happen? School shootings would likely become extinct, as there are 30 armed people around the potential shooter at all times. Non-homicidal crimes (robbery, rape, muggings, assault) would fade away - why try to rape someone when they are armed? Are you going to risk your life for that attack?

Anyway,

- The Bomber


now THAT'S interestin!
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Re: Imagine This :|

Postby DrunkenDeath » Feb 4th, '10, 06:34

Low Key wrote:imagine there was no law saying that you're not allowed to kill/murder people. basically, murdering people is allowed and no legal action would take place if you were to kill.

what would that change in this word? what are your thoughts on this?

this question always has me thinking for ages as to what it would actually be like.



the population would be reduced from 6.5 billion to probably 1 billion.
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Re: Imagine This :|

Postby gutawafang » Feb 4th, '10, 07:40

I'd cry everyday. :(
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Re: Imagine This :|

Postby Solace » Feb 5th, '10, 19:33

I'd be scared as fuck everyday when I go outside if there were no consequences for murder.
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Re: Imagine This :|

Postby Arrinef » Feb 5th, '10, 19:36

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Re: Imagine This :|

Postby chronic » Feb 5th, '10, 22:32

Your morality? What you require of yourself, not in function of other people or of any particular external threat, but in the name of a certain conception of good and evil, of duty and prohibition, of the permissible and the unacceptable, of the humanity and of you.

To act morally is to take into account the interests of the other, certainly, but without the knowledge of gods and men as Plato said, without any reward or punishment possible and without needing the opinion of anyone else then your own. The evil you prohibit yourself from doing, and without any benefit other than the satisfaction, even if nobody else can do anything, from doing it.

Therefore, you have to prevent yourself from doing anything that you would condemn in others, or not approve of according to the ''universal'' that is to say, within the intent or reason. It is the decisive point; where you have to personally submit to laws or ethics that seem, for you or for everyone important.

It is not religion that is the base of morality rather morality helps religion. It is not because God exists ; (If you're a theist like me) that one must act well but rather because you have to act well so you might need it, not to be virtuous or to go to heaven, but to escape the desperation to believe in god.

I think that everyone should read the story of Gyges and his ring; it's in Plato's book ''The republic''.
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''In The Republic, Plato puts the tale of the ring of Gyges in the mouth of Glaucon, who uses it to make the point that no man is so virtuous that he could resist the temptation of being able to steal at will by the ring's power of invisibility. In contemporary terms, Glaucon argues that morality is a social construction, whose source is the desire to maintain one's reputation for virtue and honesty; when that sanction is removed, moral character would evaporate.''
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Re: Imagine This :|

Postby chronic » Feb 6th, '10, 00:20

Adam Quinn wrote:^^^^
I read "The Republic" twice. Plato is a jackass who stole most of his concepts, theologies, theories, and ideas from the Egyptian culture. He babbled on about HIS philosophy in an unbelieveably, exhaustingly boring and extremely dull manner. I agree with this "rant" of his to a point but most are out dated and just incorrect.

I use to like him but now I dislike Plato with a passion.


He still was one of the greatest philosophers of our time and I gotta say I agree a bit with his conception of the ''ideal state'' and I love the importance he gave to mathematics.

The inscription on his school was; Let no one destitute of geometry enter my doors.
..That's not the kind of stuff you'd find nowadays where people can go through life without learning calculus.
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