Guns

[ChristinaE12]

Also... Anyone know what its like in Chicago. They banned firearms. The murder rate jumped up too.

How much sense does it truly make to ban guns and make the criminals safer. Cause they know they are the only ones who will have the shit. And the people they go commit crimes on won't be able to protect themselves. Again, makes sense right.

Again, the law abiding citizens aren't the problem. It's the one who are breaking the law and obtaining firearms to begin with. What is to stop them from getting a gun if it's illegal. The same thing that stops them from robbing a bank? Yeah, okay.

[cheeseburger]

OMG

@Christina stop using logic, it's a little to much for them to comprehend

Lets just agree that our worlds and ways of living is not close at all.

Isaac, well we have never had that problem in sweden. Sorry to here that though..

The people here have a lot of power to change things actually.

[classthe_king]

Also... Anyone know what its like in Chicago. They banned firearms. The murder rate jumped up too.

How much sense does it truly make to ban guns and make the criminals safer. Cause they know they are the only ones who will have the shit. And the people they go commit crimes on won't be able to protect themselves. Again, makes sense right.

Again, the law abiding citizens aren't the problem. It's the one who are breaking the law and obtaining firearms to begin with. What is to stop them from getting a gun if it's illegal. The same thing that stops them from robbing a bank? Yeah, okay.

But banning something automatically stops anyone from getting it right? That's how it works with drugs and that's how it worked with alcohol in the 1920's.

[ChristinaE12]

That is exactly it too Cheeseburger.. Out 'worlds' are completely different. So quit acting like what works for you will work for us. It won't and never will. The sooner people realize this the better the world will become.

We are different. There are reasons for this.

Oh.. and Rev. That was a complete joke. It is true but I was definitely joking with that one.

[classthe_king]

Lets just agree that our worlds and ways of living is not close at all.

Then stop trying to tell us what to do.

[ChristinaE12]

Yeah.. An 8 ball of coke is illegal. But I bet if I were to try I could come back with some within the hour. It's not hard to get drugs.. It's not hard to get guns. Alcohol. Anything like that can be obtained fairly easy.

Banning shit is only going to fuck the people who should be the only ones with it to begin with.

[CrashBand]

Why is it the ones who think we shouldn't have guns aren't even from here...

It's not as simple as just making them illegal. You truly don't understand how it works...

Yeah I've been trying to say that this whole time, no one really understands the US. There are so many other factors that play into it besides guns.

I mentioned that in my post.

The US gun culture is fucked up. A lot of Americans hold this belief they need guns.

Which is insane.

But I think making them illegal will go a way to changing the gun culture.

[Trimss]

Lets just agree that our worlds and ways of living is not close at all.

Then stop trying to tell us what to do.

At the end of the day, American kids died because of legal assault guns. And you can also blame Adam's mother, who probably thought like ChristinaE12, that fire arms are fucking great. She thought teaching her mentally ill kid how to shoot would be a good idea, and she thought having assault guns would be great too.

Again.. why should anyone have RIFLES at home? This is the most dumbest thing on fucking earth.

US YOU DONT NEED GUNS THE WHOLE WORLD LIVE WITHOUT GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Insecure fucks

[cheeseburger]

Lets just agree that our worlds and ways of living is not close at all.

Then stop trying to tell us what to do.

Ohh the typical american response. Always knows whats best

I dont recall anyone here saying you should ban guns? But take control over it. Who sell the guns? Is it the goverment or independent shops with owners that could be you and me?

[classthe_king]

Why is it the ones who think we shouldn't have guns aren't even from here...

It's not as simple as just making them illegal. You truly don't understand how it works...

Yeah I've been trying to say that this whole time, no one really understands the US. There are so many other factors that play into it besides guns.

I mentioned that in my post.

The US gun culture is fucked up. A lot of Americans hold this belief they need guns.

Which is insane.

But I think making them illegal will go a way to changing the gun culture.

No, what needs to be done is the cleaning up of the lowest parts of the country. That includes many things

-Drastically increasing the education in suburban schools and reduce the drop out rate
-Legalize drugs so that the government can hand them out safely and people won't be getting into the drug business. This will also decrease a lot of violence
-We need to bring all the jobs shipped oversees back to help fix the unemployment
-The media needs to stop reporting on crime 24/7 and putting fear into everyone for ratings.

If the government at least started with these things and actually tried to help the poor instead of just saying fuck them, let's wait for them to mess up and then throw them in prison then there would be a lot less crime and people would feel safe without the need for a gun, which would in turn cause Americans to stop feeling the need to own a gun. That's how we need to get rid of guns.

[Spyder]

um legalize drugs... pot sure

not meth or coke or bath salts or acid... there is no handing em out "safely"

[CrashBand]

Yeah I've been trying to say that this whole time, no one really understands the US. There are so many other factors that play into it besides guns.

I mentioned that in my post.

The US gun culture is fucked up. A lot of Americans hold this belief they need guns.

Which is insane.

But I think making them illegal will go a way to changing the gun culture.

No, what needs to be done is the cleaning up of the lowest parts of the country. That includes many things

-Drastically increasing the education in suburban schools and reduce the drop out rate
-Legalize drugs so that the government can hand them out safely and people won't be getting into the drug business. This will also decrease a lot of violence
-We need to bring all the jobs shipped oversees back to help fix the unemployment
-The media needs to stop reporting on crime 24/7 and putting fear into everyone for ratings.

If the government at least started with these things and actually tried to help the poor instead of just saying fuck them, let's wait for them to mess up and then throw them in prison then there would be a lot less crime and people would feel safe without the need for a gun, which would in turn cause Americans to stop feeling the need to own a gun. That's how we need to get rid of guns.

I agree with you that America needs to do those things.

But it's not mutually exclusive.

[AbramIsaac]

um legalize drugs... pot sure

not meth or coke or bath salts or acid... there is no handing em out "safely"

Portugal decriminalized all drugs and the usage rates fell, interestingly enough...

[classthe_king]

I agree with you that America needs to do those things.

But it's not mutually exclusive.

I mean yeah, there are still going to be those dumb hicks that want their guns but I think if we make sure to better educate them along with the inner cities schools then they'll be smart enough to know they don't need a guns. Not the adults now but the future generations.

[Spyder]

um legalize drugs... pot sure

not meth or coke or bath salts or acid... there is no handing em out "safely"

Portugal decriminalized all drugs and the usage rates fell, interestingly enough...

id agree the rates would fall, its more a "its not allowed so ill do it" kinda thing

but its basically government selling death, as nothing good comes from the more intense drugs.