Incest

[classthe_king]

An argument that supports homosexual marriage that does not support incest is the one I have been making all along. That homosexuals do not choose to be homosexuals. Banning marriage on people who were born a certain way is more similar to race discrimination. Cousins are not born in love with each other. You cannot make that same argument for incestuous relationship as you can for homosexual relationships in this case.

Ahhhhhh. Yes you can.

If there is not a good reason to make incest illegal. Then we shouldn't.

If there is not a good reason to make homosexuality illegal. Then we shouldn't.

That is the same argument. Applied for both cases.

But there is.

[CrashBand]

But there is.

Haha yes. I think so too.

But that's when the other argument came in and saying we have double standards by letting smokers have kids.

But those statistics seemed pretty untrustworthy.

[SliK]

As if smoking all those chemicals isn't doing something to fuck up your genes. I don't find it hard to believe smokers have a slightly increased chance of having deformed babies. We're only talking 1-2% more than cousins, which is only like 5% more than average or something (I'm too lazy to check the exact numbers).

And my argument wasn't really about that though. I think people like bigray who find it repulsive use the "inbreeding" argument but really they just think its disgusting. The same way people said 'gays transmit AIDS (which used to be called GRID [Gay Related Immune Deficiency]) so gay sex is wrong' back in the 70s or 80s. Yep another reference to gays, but again, I'm not actually talking about gays I am talking about people who discriminate against certain groups and just give these reasons to justify how they feel, but it doesn't explain why they feel that way.

[classthe_king]

But there is.

Haha yes. I think so too.

But that's when the other argument came in and saying we have double standards by letting smokers have kids.

But those statistics seemed pretty untrustworthy.

I don't know why you guys think it means smokers in general...it most certainly means smoking during pregnancy.

[SliK]

But there is.

Haha yes. I think so too.

But that's when the other argument came in and saying we have double standards by letting smokers have kids.

But those statistics seemed pretty untrustworthy.

I don't know why you guys think it means smokers in general...it most certainly means smoking during pregnancy.

I don't think so. How could it be so low, comparatively, to alcohol cannabis and "being a teen"?
If it really is during pregnancy then I guess smoking during pregnancy isn't that big a deal.

[classthe_king]

I don't think so. How could it be so low, comparatively, to alcohol cannabis and "being a teen"?
If it really is during pregnancy then I guess smoking during pregnancy isn't that big a deal.

Hmmm idk, it's weird that they would use alcohol and marijuana during pregnancy and then randomly not use smoking during pregnancy though.

Also, I don't think being a teen means 11-19. I think it means more towards the lower end of the spectrum .

[SliK]

Right, but incest is highly dangerous and should be actively avoided.

I'm sure weed does relieve a lot of discomfort during pregnancy... So would heroin.

[classthe_king]

Honestly, cousins marrying isn't that big of a problem as long as it doesn't happen for multiple generations, so I guess that would be okay but when you get into siblings and parent/children that's when it's really bad and should be actively avoided.

[CrashBand]

But there is.

Haha yes. I think so too.

But that's when the other argument came in and saying we have double standards by letting smokers have kids.

But those statistics seemed pretty untrustworthy.

I don't know why you guys think it means smokers in general...it most certainly means smoking during pregnancy.

I was saying it is likely to be during pregnancy.

[classthe_king]

I was saying it is likely to be during pregnancy.

I know, I guess that wasn't towards you even though I said you guys

[Guess_Who]

Pot can be safely used during pregnancy, and can help with several of the discomforts/problems associated there with ? a fact little known by the medical community, and even much of the herbalist community.

how can pot can be safely during pregnancy??? That's crazy.

http://www.babycenter.com/404_is-it-saf ... cy_2490.bc

Honestly, cousins marrying isn't that big of a problem as long as it doesn't happen for multiple generations, so I guess that would be okay but when you get into siblings and parent/children that's when it's really bad and should be actively avoided.

As much bigger is the family tie as much bigger is the risk of course, but even between cousins can be problematic. I remember in the place where my grandmother lives , 2 cousins were married, I think back then it was not so strange in small places, and the kids they had definitely are not normal.

[classthe_king]

As much bigger is the family tie as much bigger is the risk of course, but even between cousins can be problematic. I remember in the place where my grandmother lives , 2 cousins were married, I think back then it was not so strange in small places, and the kids they had definitely are not normal.

Well yeah it's problematic and I wouldn't support it at all but I don't know if it's problematic enough to make a good enough case that it should be illegal

[Guess_Who]

yeah, also making it illegal wouldn't fix the problem. People would continue their relations if they are in love , specially in very small places where almost all are cousins.

[CrashBand]

Pot can be safely used during pregnancy, and can help with several of the discomforts/problems associated there with ? a fact little known by the medical community, and even much of the herbalist community.

[Kill You]

@bigray Pot is safe, but not during pregnancy. It also depends how you smoke the pot as well. If you smoke J's and blunts all day then you would still develop lung problems in the future for example. But during pregnancy it's not safe at all.

As for the topic I have no problem with gay marriage but I have a problem with incest. That's disgusting to me.