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How do you feel about teens who commit suicide?

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Re: How do you feel about teens who commit suicide?

Postby AbramIsaac » Oct 13th, '12, 20:54

While the Amanda Todd story was what inspired your thread, you didn't specify that it had to be about her. How do we feel about teens that commit suicide? Everyone posted their thoughts, and most of them weren't singling out this particular situation.
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Re: How do you feel about teens who commit suicide?

Postby classthe_king » Oct 13th, '12, 22:10

Blu wrote:What's so different about Amanda Todd...? The fact that she flirted with many guys before, the fact that she got beat up because she slept with another girl's boyfriend, or the fact that she was known to sleep with plenty of dudes?

If she was still alive you'd all be calling her a hoe, slut, whore...but now that she's dead she's suddenly a sweet angel? Bullshit.

I don't feel pity for her because she already offed herself, I feel sorry for those strong enough to endure all this bullshit. Instead of hopping on Facebook saying "Oh how come no one helped Amanda R.I.P." why don't you go help that lonely kid at lunch you always see?

We shouldn't be talking about some girl that killed herself over problems SHE HERSELF caused. We should all be talking about the ones (like I've said above) enduring the bullying. They're the ones that need our help.

Stop giving pity to a dead girl, give it to the ones that deserve it.


You just have no idea the psychological state that she was under. Not everyone thinks the same, not everyone processes things in the same way and not everyone perceives the world in the same way. She could have had serious problems in her brain. Don't you think if she felt like she had anyone to go to that she would have or if there were any other options that she would have taken them? She felt like she was all on her own and that she had no one to help her and that her life was to the point where she had no choice but to kill herself. Is it the easy way out? Yes. Should anyone do it? Of course not. But the fact is that thousands of teens feel like they have no other choice and to sit here and call them week and tell them that they need to suck it up and learn how to do with their problems is not even coming close to fixing things.
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Re: How do you feel about teens who commit suicide?

Postby Block » Oct 13th, '12, 22:26

I tried to commit suicide. I'll never fucking do that again. That shit is dangerous; I almost died.
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Re: How do you feel about teens who commit suicide?

Postby Blu » Oct 13th, '12, 22:29

Class, you're absolutely right. I have no clue what this girl was thinking, but no matter what, I still think it was a cowardly act. Oh well, we'll agree to disagree on this matter.

Block wrote:I tried to commit suicide. I'll never fucking do that again. That shit is dangerous; I almost died.

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Re: How do you feel about teens who commit suicide?

Postby AbramIsaac » Oct 14th, '12, 01:28

Block wrote:I tried to commit suicide. I'll never fucking do that again. That shit is dangerous; I almost died.

There should be some sort of government warning about it.

Warning: Attempting suicide could result in death.
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Re: How do you feel about teens who commit suicide?

Postby CrashBand » Oct 14th, '12, 04:14

AbramIsaac wrote:
Block wrote:I tried to commit suicide. I'll never fucking do that again. That shit is dangerous; I almost died.

There should be some sort of government warning about it.

Warning: Attempting suicide could result in death.

Lol. Along with a 'Remember, Don't Rape' ad campaign.

Blu wrote:Class, you're absolutely right. I have no clue what this girl was thinking, but no matter what, I still think it was a cowardly act. Oh well, we'll agree to disagree on this matter.

No we won't.

I'm not sure if you're serious, or if you've thought this through.

You think we shouldn't pity someone who killed themselves because they were a 'hoe' or a 'weak / cowardly' person.

So someone unfortunate enough to be a weak person and to be bullied just has it coming? And is to blame?

Get the fuck out of here.
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Re: How do you feel about teens who commit suicide?

Postby Blu » Oct 14th, '12, 04:18

I show no pity to those who have taken their lives. It's over for them. I feel sorry for those going through this shit on a daily basis. Mind the people you see that are alone in life, they're the ones that need our kind words, not Amanda Todd or any other teenager that has taken their life due to bullying.

If she is going to sleep with multiple men, one of them including a girl's boyfriend, and not expect to face the consequences...then it is strictly her fault.

That's all I have to say.
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Re: How do you feel about teens who commit suicide?

Postby CrashBand » Oct 14th, '12, 04:31

Lol.

>Sleep around
>Deserve to be bullied enough to commit suicide

lolkay.

And @your first point. So if I killed some 10 year old girl who I thought was a weak minded bitch, would you not show compassion for them? Please explain why the buck stops when the person dies.
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Re: How do you feel about teens who commit suicide?

Postby Blu » Oct 14th, '12, 04:39

CrashBand wrote:Lol.

>Sleep around
>Deserve to be bullied enough to commit suicide

When did I say this? All I said was that she slept with the girl's boyfriend, she should have expected the consequences. The girl and Amanda got in a one-on-one fight, she could have easily defended herself.

CrashBand wrote:And @your first point. So if I killed some 10 year old girl who I thought was a weak minded bitch, would you not show compassion for them? Please explain why the buck stops when the person dies.

That's different, you are killing the person, the 10 year old girl didn't commit suicide herself.
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Re: How do you feel about teens who commit suicide?

Postby CrashBand » Oct 14th, '12, 04:54

That's different, you are killing the person, the 10 year old girl didn't commit suicide herself.
I was referring to your warped view of not showing compassion for someone once they're dead. You're reasoning was that they are dead therefore you don't need to show compassion towards them.


You said "it is strictly her fault" and that "Bullies will only pick on weak people" so if you are weak then the "blame is all on you".

Stop with this irrational, ignorant reasoning.

Stop saying shit like "she could've defended herself". You are putting yourself and your mind-state in that situation where you personally wouldn't be affected by it.

If you were her you would have done the same thing. Therefore we show compassion for people unlucky enough to have the mind state and external bullying that pushes them to suicide.
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Re: How do you feel about teens who commit suicide?

Postby Blu » Oct 14th, '12, 05:00

CrashBand wrote:
That's different, you are killing the person, the 10 year old girl didn't commit suicide herself.
I was referring to your warped view of not showing compassion for someone once they're dead. You're reasoning was that they are dead therefore you don't need to show compassion towards them.


You said "it is strictly her fault" and that "Bullies will only pick on weak people" so if you are weak then the "blame is all on you".

Stop with this irrational, ignorant reasoning.

Stop saying shit like "she could've defended herself". You are putting yourself and your mind-state in that situation where you personally wouldn't be affected by it.

If you were her you would have done the same thing. Therefore we show compassion for people unlucky enough to have the mind state and external bullying that pushes them to suicide.

If I was her the last thing on my mind would be suicide. If I was her the first thing I'd try to do (if fighting back didn't work) would try and get away. I honestly doubt moving states didn't work, unless people were somehow informing people all over the world how much of a slut she was.

To your first sentence, it depends on the cause of death. Of course I'll show compassion if it was something very unfortunate, but teen bullying just doesn't do the trick for me, sorry.
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Re: How do you feel about teens who commit suicide?

Postby CrashBand » Oct 14th, '12, 05:07

No, buddy. No, no, no.

You are putting yourself in her situation. Your mind-state, your ability to rationalise, your lack of sensitivity to bullying.

If you were her, you wouldn't have your characteristics. You would be her, atom for atom.

How is someone who has been bullied and has the mind-state to commit suicide not unfortunate? and their fault?
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Re: How do you feel about teens who commit suicide?

Postby Willy » Oct 14th, '12, 05:16

Blu wrote:
CrashBand wrote:
That's different, you are killing the person, the 10 year old girl didn't commit suicide herself.
I was referring to your warped view of not showing compassion for someone once they're dead. You're reasoning was that they are dead therefore you don't need to show compassion towards them.


You said "it is strictly her fault" and that "Bullies will only pick on weak people" so if you are weak then the "blame is all on you".

Stop with this irrational, ignorant reasoning.

Stop saying shit like "she could've defended herself". You are putting yourself and your mind-state in that situation where you personally wouldn't be affected by it.

If you were her you would have done the same thing. Therefore we show compassion for people unlucky enough to have the mind state and external bullying that pushes them to suicide.

If I was her the last thing on my mind would be suicide. If I was her the first thing I'd try to do (if fighting back didn't work) would try and get away. I honestly doubt moving states didn't work, unless people were somehow informing people all over the world how much of a slut she was.

To your first sentence, it depends on the cause of death. Of course I'll show compassion if it was something very unfortunate, but teen bullying just doesn't do the trick for me, sorry.


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Re: How do you feel about teens who commit suicide?

Postby classthe_king » Oct 14th, '12, 05:56

I just looked up the Amanda Todd story and she got tricked into sending nudes to an online stalker and everywhere she went, this dude followed her and released her photos everywhere and was constantly blackmailing her for more photos. How in the FUCK do you not feel bad for her and are going to call her weak? Every school she went to she was bullied, fought and made a ridicule of. This girl was 15 years old. Yeah she made some bad decisions but nobody deserves that. You guys disgust me.
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Re: How do you feel about teens who commit suicide?

Postby EG. » Oct 14th, '12, 18:55

classthe_king wrote:Are you fucking kidding me? These people kill themselves and you're going to sit here and talk shit about them? Do you have any idea what it's like to hate life so much that you actually want to kill yourself? You have absolutely no idea what kind of psychological states these people were under and to sit here and say the things you guys are saying is sickening.

I agree with this. Suicide is a terrible thing to do, but i would never call those people cowardsor weak. I understand people wanting to kill themselves when theyre in emotional pain every single day of their life.
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