MC Anonymous wrote:gladimnotsoluble wrote:I'm not here to propose a solution to the methane problem, because honestly, it's probably more important to solve transportation and industry emissions, as those contribute to the lion's share of emissions and subsequent problems.
As far as your snarky quip about animal lovers, well I wouldn't call myself necessarily an animal lover and definitely not a fan of peta. And of course animals can't have the same rights as us, they can't talk so how could they have free speech. Does that mean I feel like I could torture my dog and then kill it (if I had a dog, that is), well the simple answer is no. So yeah, if you think that "these people" who favor humane treatment of animals are retarded, then we have a fundamentally different view point.
All I'm saying is if you look at the increase of carbon levels and it's subsequent effect on climate change, I think you'd have to be quite reckless to examine that data and just say, "well, there's no way we can be responsible for it, 6.7 billion people have no effect on this planet". Because--maybe you're right. Maybe we have absolutely no effect. But are we really that arrogant as a human race to place a bet on our future? To place a bet on our children's future? I'd really hope not.
I agree to a certain extent. The planet has had climate changes due to the cycles the planet goes by every couple thousand years. It gets hot and it gets cold. If global warming was as BAD as they claim it to be then the summer should be way hotter then it has been. Period. That is the basic logic of it all and what is happening is the complete opposite. Why? The planet is going through a cycle, as it always has. Us as humans have an affect on the global warming, yes we do. Is it a SIGNIFICANT affect that can cause climate change? I think this summer has proven otherwise. Now if we DO NOT stop now it will eventually in a couple hundred/thousand years. For now I would not worry and focus the energy you would use for the worry to actually doing something about it now rather then later.
Well first of all, global warming is a misnomer. Global warming just describes increased amounts of greenhouse gases which in turn traps the sun's rays--which will make the planet "hotter" to some extent. But the real issue is that with the melting of glaciers, the potential turn of the thermo-haline cycle, combined with change in weather patterns among other things is that you have Global Climate Change. Some parts will get hotter, some parts will get colder, some places will get windier, some places will get more rainy--it's about a total change in climate which would actively displace millions and destroy millions of livelihoods. So if your argument is just that in your specific area it is not getting hotter, that is not simply a reason enough to completely discredit all major credible scientific research in this world.
As for your last sentence "For now I would not worry and focus the energy you would use for the worry to actually doing something about it now rather then later," it seems to me as if you are advocating doing something now anyway, at which point we would be in accordance and whatever you truly believe about global climate change is then unimportant because we would both favor action.
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