When A Fan Takes It To Far...

[,-,'-{Bar}-',-,]

wtf are u guys even going on about lol.

Instead of complaining bar, u should be posting good music for others to hear and reccoment, condemming someones undeveloped taste wont do nothing. I know because i sold CD's i had kids come back and ask for more.

Hip hop aint a school its a church, its preached not taught and given bad grades for.

id argue with you but it was you who got me listening to rakim so......


*leaves thread*

thats because i preached, i specifically told, u "listen to this, this guy is good if not the best".


Its in how u approach, u cant just make someone change in an instance and start liking something new.

true

[Flamez]

well some are really obssessed with eminem tooooooooo obssessed sometimes and yes they sometimes take it too far lol...

i like eminem's music and all but i ain't that obssessed its just an artist and i understand for some there idols and they look up to him but...

but yes some ppl are way too obssessed with him

[AspirinE]

you're taking it personally, i meant in general. and not just people at TR. just around the web, i read things, and lots of people were giving shit and saying he sold out. i don't know if it was just cuz it's the net and everyone likes to talk shit online, or if they were fueled by their hate of encore to continue hating on anything em did... but they said shit that wouldn't have been said if it wasn't eminem.

Well i see ur point, but idiots will always be idiots, and many rappers get hated the same way by this group of people that like to show off.

and no one's trying to teach or preach to someone about what's good hip hop. it's a simple discussion about groupieness and why it always seems to be eminem/shady/gunit fans that get labaled them.

Thats because many are. Many shadyaftermath fans havent listened to shit other then their holy lable they idol rapper associates with.

and i don't give a fuck if em is the most popular rapper on earth and doom is just gettin by with his success. it's hip hop, ain't it? so success and money and popularity should not really matter.

I was talking "credit", not money or watever, i jut support underground rappers. Playing robin-hood in a sense.

aspirine, if you were to say "doom is god", i wouldn't consider that groupieness. it's just a metaphor showing how much you like him and how dope you think he is. so why can't a person say "em is god" without being called a groupie? granted, there should be lack of <3's and oMgzzzzz's, but really though... it's the same thing that''s being said.

If if if if.. i dont exhault rappers to proportions of making them sound like they are the ones and only's. Comaprison maybe, saying something like "doom is a master at wordplay, made one of the best albums this year", maybe. As i said many times, i dont classify rappers into #1's , #2's and #3's.

[AspirinE]

yeah, but see, you're assuming. it's like racism. the majority of criminals in america are black or latino. that doesn't make it right that when you see any black guy walk in the liquor store with baggy pants, you think they're gonna shoot up the place.

just like when a fan comes here and says "eminem is the best". that shouldn't automatically make them dickriding shady/gunit groupies. and some people, especially newbies, are treated like that.

well technically you assuming too, because i don't jump on someones post for nothing, and when i do i start a discussion, i think you're analising too deep.

okay, okay, change the comment then so there's no rank. if someone were to say "doom is one of the best. i love him" (in a no homo way, if a guy is saying this ), that person wouldn't be considered a groupie. that's just another way of showing how much you like the guy's music. so if an em fan were to say the same thing, people would label GROUPIE, when in reality... it's the same thing.

the truth is, eminem is a pop idol, he has that combination were groupies just stick to him, because he looks fluffy, blue eyed and they show him on mtv all the time. Doom just doesnt have that many groupies, if he does have some groupies, i am 100% sure that this groupie anowledges hip hop as knowledged person. In fact, this comparison you bring up is like... rediculous.


I suggest an experiment, go too http://www.myspace.com/mfdoom and then http://www.myspace.com/eminem , read the comments and check out the stereotype of the listner for yourself.

[sinemm]

well listenin to a singer a rapper or whatever is allright til you get obsessed wth him / her ..

i listen to eminem alot love his songs say that im a fan? thats k but bein obsessed with everything bout them is not nice i think..

or other not jus for Em
i like jayz,nas,50 or more or other kinds LP,evanescence love them n their songs too

but im not arguin to everybody and tryin to make them think like me..

if they dont like those ppl i dont blame them with having no taste or bein jealous

or im not watchin everything they do everything they say

i dunno thats how i think..

[AspirinE]

jump on whose post?

and maybe i am analyzing too deep, but i consider that as just observing it from a different perspective

ur trying to confuse me

i know em has many groupie fans. i know people jumped on his dick cuz he was this "cute blonde rapper guy". but not everyone. em can't choose his fans. he said that in anterview, himself. if he gets fans that are also fans of the baskstreet boys, what is he supposed to do? turn them away? that's not his fault, or any of the sane fans' faults either. that's the point i'm trying to get across. stop generalizing people and automatically assuming that each person around the ages of 12 - 21 are groupies.

Im not saying its his fault, and im not saying all his fans are groupies or watever, never did, i think thats you generalizing now. I rarely even respond to those kinds of people (even wen sometimes i see them post), but if do its because some post was outstandingly "special".

We're getting nowhere in this discussion. :|

[Boston]

wise words.. to some extent we are groupies..

crossing the line?..i dont know.. were all online, but if you start writing him letters like a stan

"dear mr im to good to call or write my fans" lol man give it a break.. but yeah

EMINEM 4 life

[,-,'-{Bar}-',-,]

ur trying to confuse me

then i have succeeded

... yeah, i've discussed the shit out of this, with you and bar.

(sorry i said to tahs too look at this topic then checked it n never noticed there were new posts lol)

you didnt discuss it out me, we just aint ever goin to agree coz i have a mentalilty its music JUST music, love life, there personel life anythign like that if you are itnrested in it is groupie or excess to me, unless its about the hip hop, i crindge posting news about eminem and hailey and kim coz im like who the fuck are we to even be allowed to comment on this ?

anywa i aint starting this back up, we aint ever gonni agree lol

[Tash8]

ur trying to confuse me

then i have succeeded

... yeah, i've discussed the shit out of this, with you and bar.

(sorry i said to tahs too look at this topic then checked it n never noticed there were new posts lol)

you didnt discuss it out me, we just aint ever goin to agree coz i have a mentalilty its music JUST music, love life, there personel life anythign like that if you are itnrested in it is groupie or excess to me, unless its about the hip hop, i crindge posting news about eminem and hailey and kim coz im like who the fuck are we to even be allowed to comment on this ?

anywa i aint starting this back up, we aint ever gonni agree lol

agreed, that's what i said in my other post.

[randomghost]

we are just fans trying to avoid being a groupies.... lol....i admit i was a eminem groupie before but now it really doesnt matter wid me if eminem fucked his wife or rapped his daughter..i got ma own concerns, so he should look after his....(eminem is a legend) but when i say that it doesnt mean ama groupie nooo, i'm just a fan who enjoying listenting to the artist music...thats all no less no more

[,-,'-{Bar}-',-,]

we are just fans trying to avoid being a groupies.... lol....i admit i was a eminem groupie before but now it really doesnt matter wid me if eminem fucked his wife or rapped his daughter..i got ma own concerns, so he should look after his....(eminem is a legend) but when i say that it doesnt mean ama groupie nooo, i'm just a fan who enjoying listenting to the artist music...thats all no less no more

why post the same thing twice

and the fact you think eminem is a legend proves your more gorupie than a neatrul hip hop fan

[AspirinE]

and the fact you think eminem is a legend proves your more gorupie than a neatrul hip hop fan

ugh bar... In the topic about Eminem being a legend, even i tried to point out that groupies cant judge if eminem is a legend,but neigher can nobody else. Now how the fuck do u all of a sudden know about whos a legend or not?

No facts involved here, just people needa stop taking nonsense, like making threads of "why aint eminem considered a legend, boo fucking hooo"

[$0 R3@L]

somebody make asp a politician

[B.A.D.]

I remember when someone once told me, that "stan"'s story was real...
man... I'm glad it ain't

If there is sumone like that.... it just fucks up the artist instead of makin him proud of haing fans... or groupies

hahah

somebody make asp a politician

hahahahah

[Slimm]

I remember when someone once told me, that "stan"'s story was real...
man... I'm glad it ain't

If there is sumone like that.... it just fucks up the artist instead of makin him proud of haing fans... or groupies

hahah

somebody make asp a politician

hahahahah

I always thought it was real, i got a DVD where u see Stan at a concert and hes like im stan biggest fan etc