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Re: Creation or Evolution

Postby <Stiiccy> » Jun 8th, '08, 22:00

yoshi wrote:
sticcy z wrote:thats actually a good come back...
but to qoute the bible it says he is the alfa and the omega..the begining and the end..


the come back was a pure masterpiece. :8)


anyway, back to the topic.

1. what was he doing before he 'created the universe'?
2. which god created it? christian God? Budda? Quetzacoatl? Allah? Zeus? because the Bible says so, doesn't mean it's true - it could've been Budda.

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Budda as far a i know is just a statue...
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Re: Creation or Evolution

Postby Kosovic » Jun 8th, '08, 22:03

yoshi wrote:
sticcy z wrote:thats actually a good come back...
but to qoute the bible it says he is the alfa and the omega..the begining and the end..


the come back was a pure masterpiece. :8)


anyway, back to the topic.

1. what was he doing before he 'created the universe'?
2. which god created it? christian God? Budda? Quetzacoatl? Allah? Zeus? because the Bible says so, doesn't mean it's true - it could've been Budda.


1) sex with his wife
2) Tezkatlipoka did. The rest are his secretaries.
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Re: Creation or Evolution

Postby Cwayon_Murder » Jun 9th, '08, 02:39

Lol, I don't feel like arguing about this anymore. Nobody knows the fucking answer and we never will as long as we're alive.

But still...evolution.

Side note - I can't believe some people still think the dinosaurs never existed. "God put the bones here to test our faith." Lmao...
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Re: Creation or Evolution

Postby yoshi » Jun 9th, '08, 11:45

Cwayon_Murder wrote:
Side note - I can't believe some people still think the dinosaurs never existed. "God put the bones here to test our faith." Lmao...



you for real? :confusion:
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Re: Creation or Evolution

Postby BlaqReaper » Jun 9th, '08, 13:21

Guys, guys, guys. You have it all wrong. God didn't create us, and we didn't come from monkeys....it all began 75 million years ago. Back then there was a galactic federation of planets which was ruled over by the evil Lord Xenu. Xenu thought his galaxy was overpopulated, and so he rounded up countless aliens from all different planets, and then had those aliens frozen. The frozen alien bodies were loaded onto Xenu's galactic cruisers, which looked like DC-8s, except with rocket engines. The cruisers then took the frozen alien bodies to our planet, Earth, and dumped them into the volcanoes of Hawaii. The aliens were no longer frozen, they were dead. The souls of those aliens, however, lived on, and all floated up towards the sky. But the evil Lord Xenu had prepared for this. Xenu didn't want their souls to return! And so he built giant soul-catchers in the sky! The souls were taken to a huge soul brain-washing facility, which Xenu had also built on Earth. There the souls were forced to watch days of brainwashing material which tricked them into believing a false reality. Xenu then released the alien souls, which roamed the earth aimlessly in a fog of confusion. At the dawn of man, the souls finally found bodies which they could grab onto. They attached themselves to all mankind, which still to this day causes all our fears, our confusions, and our problems.
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Re: Creation or Evolution

Postby BlaqReaper » Jun 9th, '08, 13:58

Heh heh, I'm just playing, for all of those who didn't catch the South Park reference. Actually, I'm in between, but mostly supportive of evolution. I remember I was talking to my friend a couple of months ago about this and he was a super-sciencey and non-religious type. I expected him to believe in evolution, but then he gave me an analogy to why he thinks Creationism could exist. Basically what he said was we as humans are learning to build machines with A.I. Imagine centuries from now, we create robots who have a conscience and are unaware they are robots (yes, sci-fi I know, but...it can happen can't it?) Doesn't that show a little bit of creationism/intelligent design?

As for things now, I believe in evolution, we evolving from monkeys, etc.

Also, I think it's dumb to argue the existence of God because no one can really know/prove it. It's basically like arguing over what happens to one after they pass away. Until someone comes back from the dead with a snapshot of wherever they went or something, there's just no reason to argue over anything. I myself am an agnostic and sometimes borderline atheist (I'm really indecisive and I find it hard to choose in what to believe.)

yoshi wrote:
shady6 wrote:Creation.
if something that exists has to be created at first, who created God? huh? and don't tell me he 'was'.

We created God. For example. look at the Greek and Roman mythology. At one time their Gods were feared and worshipped because the Greeks and Romans firmly believed in their existence. Eventually the ideas and times were forced to change and those Gods were essentially debunked and now on par with legends and fairy tales. It was humans that literally created and destroyed those gods. Same with the Gods today. The beliefs, ideas, etc., customs are all created by people.

Now I'm sure that answer there is going to piss off a bunch of religious people, and I can't even say I agree with it myself. It's just something that randomly popped into my head when I read your question. Did God create us, or did we create God? OR Perhaps God created us and then we created God in our own vision and God is just up there laughing at all the religions we have created...who knows? It's like trying to answer the question "What came first, the chicken or the egg?"
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Re: Creation or Evolution

Postby Kosovic » Jun 9th, '08, 15:47

There is no god. Imagine how tiny earth is compared to the universe. Its like comparing the size of a volleball with the size of jupiter. If god actually exist and created universe, he wouldnt even notice that "Earth" exist.
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Re: Creation or Evolution

Postby Cwayon_Murder » Jun 9th, '08, 19:43

yoshi wrote:
Cwayon_Murder wrote:
Side note - I can't believe some people still think the dinosaurs never existed. "God put the bones here to test our faith." Lmao...



you for real? :confusion:


A friend actually said this to me once. I was like :confusion:
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Re: Creation or Evolution

Postby Kosovic » Jun 9th, '08, 19:44

Cwayon_Murder wrote:
yoshi wrote:
Cwayon_Murder wrote:
Side note - I can't believe some people still think the dinosaurs never existed. "God put the bones here to test our faith." Lmao...



you for real? :confusion:


A friend actually said this to me once. I was like :confusion:


All weird stuff happen in america eh?
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Re: Creation or Evolution

Postby shady6 » Jun 10th, '08, 03:51

Kosovic wrote:
yoshi wrote:
sticcy z wrote:thats actually a good come back...
but to qoute the bible it says he is the alfa and the omega..the begining and the end..


the come back was a pure masterpiece. :8)


anyway, back to the topic.

1. what was he doing before he 'created the universe'?
2. which god created it? christian God? Budda? Quetzacoatl? Allah? Zeus? because the Bible says so, doesn't mean it's true - it could've been Budda.


1) sex with his wife
2) Tezkatlipoka did. The rest are his secretaries.



You are the biggest dumbass i've EVER met in my life. SEX WITH HIS WIFE? HE WASN'T MARRIED.

at least do a LITTLE fucxkin research. lol.

O, and btw, has evolution ever been proven? huh? u ever seen a monkey become a man? any human ever see it happen? no? yea, didnt think so.

You knopw how many times the Bible has been proven right? hundreds or thousands. Every tijme its referenced some historic location that archaeologists couldn't find, they looked in the bible, and BAM instant directions...it has never been wrong. EVER. Lokin at it like this, it REALLY takes more faith to believe in evolution than creation. it REALLY does. and don't give chgristinan schools should be "restricted" BS...



Also, if it helps me any, there are more copies of the Bible in our hands than there are of ANY other historical writing.
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Re: Creation or Evolution

Postby shady6 » Jun 10th, '08, 05:38

erm..if people could actually READ the bible before postin about in here that would be a HUGE help

and if it is never wrong then we can't we find the ark? who where the garden of eden? where was jesus buried (they are still not sure, even tho they worshipped one place)


NONE of these places are listed in the bible...their locations are left unkown...

o, and having a chat with God happens every day for Christians. Its called prayer, but o boy, I'm not even gonna try and convince you confused guys bout that.

Just read the bible before you claim you know what you'e saying.

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Re: Creation or Evolution

Postby Kosovic » Jun 10th, '08, 16:42

You know, u really shouldnt start religious topic. The religious lunatics are fanatics one by one.
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Re: Creation or Evolution

Postby sinemm » Jun 10th, '08, 19:05

yoshi wrote:I don't understand how people can actually deny science. -_-

Ok, let's say god [Allah, Budda, God, Manitou, whoever] created humans. What with the proofs? Skeletons, tools, paintings in caves? Are they fake? Or maybe they were created just because?




i dont deny the science
but science is just trying to enlighten it in its own way

and you cant expect some one who believes in god to think like this like you
its all evolution god has nothing to do with it
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Re: Creation or Evolution

Postby yoshi » Jun 10th, '08, 20:11

sinemm wrote:i dont deny the science
but science is just trying to enlighten it in its own way


science is trying to find a reasonable explanation for what'd happened centuries ago. science and religion exclude each other.

and you cant expect some one who believes in god to think like this like you


well excuse me, but i'm a little lost.

its all evolution god has nothing to do with it
:n:


so what's your point eventually?
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Re: Creation or Evolution

Postby sinemm » Jun 10th, '08, 20:19

^ i said "you cant expect me to think like its evolution god has nothing to do with it.."
it wasnt my opinion :y:

and its a fact that religion and science are two different things but i dont think science can find reasonable reasons for 'everything' can it?

does it tell you how did the first human emerged? or does it tell you why all of a sudden some elements decided to gather and create a thing called earth or the universe on the whole?

some things dont have explanations -my opinion-
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