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Postby AspirinE » Jan 30th, '06, 19:45

misa wrote:
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misa wrote:sth i want to understand ppl who dont believe tht god exist ,from where do they believe humans , animals , earth n everythin came from ?? justt wondering
actually... evolution is a great thing.. read up on it ;) lol ... i wanna understand who came first the chicken or the egg.. but its not ganna happen :( so yeah.. u just let some things go..


yea sth evolve to anther from sth else but there has to be sth that didnt evolve just was there ! from where

i donnu if iam understand what iam tryin to say



Are speaking of the begginng of the universe?

U studied algebra right?



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u know wat an asymtote is?


well consider the begining of the universe somewhat similar.. no mater how tfar the line goes its never gonna reach the 0 mark, itll go

0.00000000000199 >>>>... 0.0000000000000000000000000000000009 ..and smaller

but ittl never be a zero.

IF a universe satarts from star dust, star dust from exploded exploded stars, exploded stars from massive peaces of space crap... and so on the begining might not be defined just like it isnt in an asymtote..
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Postby AspirinE » Jan 30th, '06, 19:50

Fi.J. wrote:
AspirinE wrote:the bible is a catch 22 its bult in such a way that u a christian will have a way oit by saying... "ohh but u have to believe"

that means they dont leave the believer an option.

How come every single one of these religious groups is gonna be sure that he is right.

If u use logic - God does not exeist, the sientists know that, people use logic before believing know god is not real.
There is no proof, even slightest proof of gods existance. The bibles legacy is messed up, god lets the worst possible people slide and the good die young ( why!, because its a harsh world, u kill the king u can take his seat )


I cant possibly argue about wat u believe coz its ur choice. So far its merely a fantasy inspired by a book.


it's all a point of view thing.


its not even a point of view , its what a person favours.

U choose to believe neglecting all logic in it.
I for one would love to here a religious person prove his point of view without using the bible as a valuable source.
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Postby misa » Jan 30th, '06, 19:58

AspirinE wrote:
misa wrote:
Angie wrote:
misa wrote:sth i want to understand ppl who dont believe tht god exist ,from where do they believe humans , animals , earth n everythin came from ?? justt wondering
actually... evolution is a great thing.. read up on it ;) lol ... i wanna understand who came first the chicken or the egg.. but its not ganna happen :( so yeah.. u just let some things go..


yea sth evolve to anther from sth else but there has to be sth that didnt evolve just was there ! from where

i donnu if iam understand what iam tryin to say



Are speaking of the begginng of the universe?

U studied algebra right?



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u know wat an asymtote is?


well consider the begining of the universe somewhat similar.. no mater how tfar the line goes its never gonna reach the 0 mark, itll go

0.00000000000199 >>>>... 0.0000000000000000000000000000000009 ..and smaller

but ittl never be a zero.

IF a universe satarts from star dust, star dust from exploded exploded stars, exploded stars from massive peaces of space crap... and so on the begining might not be defined just like it isnt in an asymtote..


it may not be defined but it existed , not in the algebra cause that is numbers u can never not add anther no,
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Postby Fi.J. » Jan 30th, '06, 19:58

so my question is:if the universe had a beginnig,it must have started from sth..dust,atoms or wtf.but this sth must have an origin itself,so you find that the universe is eternal,but it isn't,as the big bang theory says..so it's like controsense..
however what I wanted to say is that I'm not trying to convince you that it's right to believe in God and it's wrong not to believe in God.I was trying to explain why I believe.what I can't stand is that asp said that religion is fantasy and so on..I don't blame you cos you don't believe,it's you choise,so you cannot say that what I think or believe in is just illusion..
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PROOF RIP..
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Postby AspirinE » Jan 30th, '06, 20:00

u can use maths to describe anything... maths very well proves my point..


i needa do some research to formally prove to you that the begging of the universe is not existant ( or just cant be defined )
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Postby Ka0t1c » Jan 31st, '06, 08:25

i don't believe in religion, i believe what i feel is right
oh yeah... and thanks for nothing too
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Postby the_cat_in_the_hat » Jan 31st, '06, 12:31

How can you be loved by someone who doesn't exist???
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Postby AspirinE » Jan 31st, '06, 12:37

the_cat_in_the_hat wrote:How can you be loved by someone who doesn't exist???


Zing!!!! :8)
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Postby AspirinE » Jan 31st, '06, 12:46

There is no such thing as "luck" coz luck is supernatural...
Conincidences do happened though..

Anyone can say that something good that happens to him is coz of God, but that is in no way true.


lets say god does exist and he knows wat will happen wen it will happen and knows everything that already happen.

Wats his point in being then?! ... the dude must be real bored.
Who created god? believing the theory that something has to start somewere, god would have to have started somewere too. But were?

EVen though god hates Fags, them freaks are still alive and walking- leads me to believe he dont exist :P ...


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Postby AspirinE » Jan 31st, '06, 13:08

Sarah wrote:I go to a christain school ( I know, it sucks :( ) and they say tha God loves everyone. But you're right there Asp, cos they also say that he hates gay people, so how could he love and hate them at the same time? It doesn't make sence :confusion:


I studied 6 years in a protestant school.. i had 1 hour asembly every morning, when they would teach us that shit ... its like they were brainwashing people.
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Postby Fi.J. » Jan 31st, '06, 17:07

AspirinE wrote:
Sarah wrote:I go to a christain school ( I know, it sucks :( ) and they say tha God loves everyone. But you're right there Asp, cos they also say that he hates gay people, so how could he love and hate them at the same time? It doesn't make sence :confusion:


I studied 6 years in a protestant school.. i had 1 hour asembly every morning, when they would teach us that shit ... its like they were brainwashing people.


well that's what you think.but you cannot say that what I believe in is fake.you can do whatever you want but don't say that shit..
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cos you know it's me, my poetry's deep, and I'm still matic the way I flow to this beat, you can't sit still, it's like tryin to smoke crack and go to sleep, I'm strapped

PROOF RIP..
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Postby AspirinE » Jan 31st, '06, 17:28

g_killa wrote:i watched this program the otherday and a guy was saying if he told you there was a teapot floating in front of the sun would you belive him cos there is no proof but theres also no way to disprove it 2 and thats the same with relegion was the point of it but i feel this topics a lil harsh for ppl who belive cos sayin ppls belives are crap is harsh


i know its harsh and i fully respect believers opinion, but nowadays if u dont believe in god coz u use logic.. ppl are "WTF are u crazy?!" And no matter how much PROOF u show, its all bullshit to them.

I guess dinasaurs didnt exist afterall.

Ive read the whole bible about two times and i debated so many times with people that preach... all of them only have words from the bible to proff their arguement..

Lets say i write a book and say.... "if u dont believe wat im saying ur going to hell (because u dont know wats after death u start have thoughts of it being true) ... ull have but no choice to believe.

people got played by the best show-man of all time


this guy.








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Too bad he died....
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Postby Fi.J. » Jan 31st, '06, 17:36

I don't see your respect towards ppl who believe,cos it's like you're sayin we're all fool!
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cos you know it's me, my poetry's deep, and I'm still matic the way I flow to this beat, you can't sit still, it's like tryin to smoke crack and go to sleep, I'm strapped

PROOF RIP..
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Postby misa » Jan 31st, '06, 17:41

iam not even christian but asp sayin the best show man isnt really nice
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Postby AspirinE » Jan 31st, '06, 17:50

Fi.J. wrote:I don't see your respect towards ppl who believe,cos it's like you're sayin we're all fool!


Well u believe in sumtin that is written in a book, and u have no way to prove its true.

Im not tryna insult u, im tryna start a debate.

So far ive heard only -- "I believe"

I dont respect ANY religion , coz the same fuckers that were gutting people and chanting round in circles, covered the mud are the orignators of these religions the religious believes just tend to get softer as people get smarter. If u were to question their belive they say "we just believe".

No i have no respect for religion, i hate every one of those hypocrit preachers who secretly wish they could bang angenila jolie, most of the people that believe never even read the bible. most of them dont even wanna recognise that the bible has been changed 87987920289320919263 times, only to creat more religions, and wars between religious people.

How can all of them be right? How can u trust existance of god , if the validacy of the "Holy book" is at question.
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