classthe_king wrote:Technically I'm a Catholic
classthe_king wrote:Technically I'm a Catholic
vt_x_spider wrote:Arguing with a religious person is moronic. You're arguing with 2000 years of indoctrination for fuck's sake. If their mind is too weak to think for itself then there's no way in hell you'll actually reach them from the outside.
On: I'm free. Not an atheist, not a religious person. I don't know if there is a god, I don't know if everything is completely rational. Will believe it when I see it. What I do believe is that people are yet to stupid to be capable of understanding everything. It seems though that with every year science claims more and more of god's credit. I'm extremely curious what will religious people make up in a hundred years to actually convince people about their faith.
omar khalid wrote:vt_x_spider wrote:Arguing with a religious person is moronic. You're arguing with 2000 years of indoctrination for fuck's sake. If their mind is too weak to think for itself then there's no way in hell you'll actually reach them from the outside.
On: I'm free. Not an atheist, not a religious person. I don't know if there is a god, I don't know if everything is completely rational. Will believe it when I see it. What I do believe is that people are yet to stupid to be capable of understanding everything. It seems though that with every year science claims more and more of god's credit. I'm extremely curious what will religious people make up in a hundred years to actually convince people about their faith.
Arguing with a person who doesn't believe in God IS moronic. You're arguing with someone who says bullshit, nonsense talk. If their minds are weak, believing that the universe is built by itself, Humans are exists with no creature to create them. How are we going to argue with them about logical subjects.
vt_x_spider wrote:Arguing with a religious person is moronic. You're arguing with 2000 years of indoctrination for fuck's sake. If their mind is too weak to think for itself then there's no way in hell you'll actually reach them from the outside.
On: I'm free. Not an atheist, not a religious person. I don't know if there is a god, I don't know if everything is completely rational. Will believe it when I see it. What I do believe is that people are yet to stupid to be capable of understanding everything. It seems though that with every year science claims more and more of god's credit. I'm extremely curious what will religious people make up in a hundred years to actually convince people about their faith.
cityfan31 wrote:omar khalid wrote:vt_x_spider wrote:Arguing with a religious person is moronic. You're arguing with 2000 years of indoctrination for fuck's sake. If their mind is too weak to think for itself then there's no way in hell you'll actually reach them from the outside.
On: I'm free. Not an atheist, not a religious person. I don't know if there is a god, I don't know if everything is completely rational. Will believe it when I see it. What I do believe is that people are yet to stupid to be capable of understanding everything. It seems though that with every year science claims more and more of god's credit. I'm extremely curious what will religious people make up in a hundred years to actually convince people about their faith.
Arguing with a person who doesn't believe in God IS moronic. You're arguing with someone who says bullshit, nonsense talk. If their minds are weak, believing that the universe is built by itself, Humans are exists with no creater to create them. How are we going to argue with them about logical subjects.
There is no evidence for God, why is it bullshit for someone like me not to believe in him?
Fa-Q wrote:Lello18 wrote:Fa-Q wrote:I believe in God. Not Christian or Catholic....just believe in God
Christian or Catholic? Catholics are christians....
Yeah but theres miles between them. I consider them two different religions
omar khalid wrote:first of all, I mean no offence to you but "vt_x_spider" has started it.
Ok, how can you say there's no evidence for god ? this whole universe isn't an evidence?! Even you (human being) is evidence. how can you be exist ? how could this universe is built with no creater to create it ?
For simple example, If I told you I saw a ship building itself ?!! would you believe me ? of corse no.
So, what about the universe which contains the solar system and the planets which go around the sun in circles, there are about billions stars nearly in every galaxy and there are about millions of galaxies
and what about the human body and if you asked me what is the best machine i would say the human body, it's so complicated. Just give one machine which is more complicated/better/. Don't tell me those ain't evidence ! They can't be exists by sudden! They can't be come from nowhere. There's must be one who created all these. You can't say I won't believe in god until I see him ! And I'm sure that alot of things that you believe in you haven't seen it.
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Menzo wrote:Well, the Bible says God was always present, the Creator wasn't created. Scientists say the universe came to existence from one single, always present point of energy.
So...
people piece of two together.
first of all, I mean no offence to you but "vt_x_spider" has started it.
Ok, how can you say there's no evidence for god ? this whole universe isn't an evidence?! Even you (human being) is evidence. how can you be exist ? how could this universe is built with no creater to create it ?
For simple example, If I told you I saw a ship building itself ?!! would you believe me ? of corse no.
So, what about the universe which contains the solar system and the planets which go around the sun in circles, there are about billions stars nearly in every galaxy and there are about millions of galaxies
and what about the human body and if you asked me what is the best machine i would say the human body, it's so complicated. Just give one machine which is more complicated/better/. Don't tell me those ain't evidence ! They can't be exists by sudden! They can't be come from nowhere. There's must be one who created all these. You can't say I won't believe in god until I see him ! And I'm sure that alot of things that you believe in you haven't seen it.
How can you say that science can explain why there are planets, stars etc. Not everything they say is true. They're claiming they know, but they don't know. What are their theories ?! How can they say how planet was created or from where and from what ? their ideas/knowledge/explanation are based on false theories.Science can explain why there are planets, stars and how they all came about. It can explain what was going on millionths of a second after the universe began. Our ancestors didn't understand this, so they put it down to God.
No, evolution ain't the right answer. Human are human. We're not animals which are developed along billions of years. And even IF the evolution theory was right in the past there were simple life so, From were did the simple life come from (Even this theory can't be done without the idea of presence of god) ?The human body is an amazing thing, along with the other life on this planet. But the complexity of all the organisms you see now is the result of an equally amazing, simple process - evolution. Rather than appealing to a God to create everything, this theory explains logically how you can begin with extremely simple life forms and end up with what we have today. After Darwin discovered evolution, there is no need for God. What you see around you today didn't come from nothing, it slowly but surely happened over billions and billions of years.
Thirdly, a God who created the universe and all its complexities must be at least as complex as what he has created. Therefore, who created God? And surely that is an even harder question to answer because that being is EVEN more complex (as the other guy said).
The problem here is that humans try to put a cause to everything, that's the way we evolved because it is a useful survival tool. Why must the universe have been created?
Menzo wrote:This is why I fuckin hate religious threads...
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