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What Religion are you?

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What Religion are you

Catholic
11
38%
Protestant Christian
1
3%
Jewish
0
No votes
Muslim
5
17%
Buddhist
0
No votes
Atheist
6
21%
Agnostic
4
14%
Other
2
7%
 
Total votes : 29

Re: What Religion are you?

Postby FAME » Jul 30th, '10, 20:31

classthe_king wrote:Technically I'm a Catholic
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Re: What Religion are you?

Postby Omar Khalid » Jul 30th, '10, 20:56

vt_x_spider wrote:Arguing with a religious person is moronic. You're arguing with 2000 years of indoctrination for fuck's sake. If their mind is too weak to think for itself then there's no way in hell you'll actually reach them from the outside.

On: I'm free. Not an atheist, not a religious person. I don't know if there is a god, I don't know if everything is completely rational. Will believe it when I see it. What I do believe is that people are yet to stupid to be capable of understanding everything. It seems though that with every year science claims more and more of god's credit. I'm extremely curious what will religious people make up in a hundred years to actually convince people about their faith.

Arguing with a person who doesn't believe in God IS moronic. You're arguing with someone who says bullshit, nonsense talk. If their minds are weak, believing that the universe is built by itself, Humans are exists with no creature to create them. How are we going to argue with them about logical subjects.
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Re: What Religion are you?

Postby cityfan31 » Jul 30th, '10, 21:12

omar khalid wrote:
vt_x_spider wrote:Arguing with a religious person is moronic. You're arguing with 2000 years of indoctrination for fuck's sake. If their mind is too weak to think for itself then there's no way in hell you'll actually reach them from the outside.

On: I'm free. Not an atheist, not a religious person. I don't know if there is a god, I don't know if everything is completely rational. Will believe it when I see it. What I do believe is that people are yet to stupid to be capable of understanding everything. It seems though that with every year science claims more and more of god's credit. I'm extremely curious what will religious people make up in a hundred years to actually convince people about their faith.

Arguing with a person who doesn't believe in God IS moronic. You're arguing with someone who says bullshit, nonsense talk. If their minds are weak, believing that the universe is built by itself, Humans are exists with no creature to create them. How are we going to argue with them about logical subjects.


There is no evidence for God, why is it bullshit for someone like me not to believe in him?
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Re: What Religion are you?

Postby WakeUpShow » Jul 30th, '10, 23:17

vt_x_spider wrote:Arguing with a religious person is moronic. You're arguing with 2000 years of indoctrination for fuck's sake. If their mind is too weak to think for itself then there's no way in hell you'll actually reach them from the outside.

On: I'm free. Not an atheist, not a religious person. I don't know if there is a god, I don't know if everything is completely rational. Will believe it when I see it. What I do believe is that people are yet to stupid to be capable of understanding everything. It seems though that with every year science claims more and more of god's credit. I'm extremely curious what will religious people make up in a hundred years to actually convince people about their faith.

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Re: What Religion are you?

Postby Omar Khalid » Jul 30th, '10, 23:17

cityfan31 wrote:
omar khalid wrote:
vt_x_spider wrote:Arguing with a religious person is moronic. You're arguing with 2000 years of indoctrination for fuck's sake. If their mind is too weak to think for itself then there's no way in hell you'll actually reach them from the outside.

On: I'm free. Not an atheist, not a religious person. I don't know if there is a god, I don't know if everything is completely rational. Will believe it when I see it. What I do believe is that people are yet to stupid to be capable of understanding everything. It seems though that with every year science claims more and more of god's credit. I'm extremely curious what will religious people make up in a hundred years to actually convince people about their faith.

Arguing with a person who doesn't believe in God IS moronic. You're arguing with someone who says bullshit, nonsense talk. If their minds are weak, believing that the universe is built by itself, Humans are exists with no creater to create them. How are we going to argue with them about logical subjects.


There is no evidence for God, why is it bullshit for someone like me not to believe in him?

first of all, I mean no offence to you but "vt_x_spider" has started it.
Ok, how can you say there's no evidence for god ? this whole universe isn't an evidence?! Even you (human being) is evidence. how can you be exist ? how could this universe is built with no creater to create it ?
For simple example, If I told you I saw a ship building itself ?!! would you believe me ? of corse no.
So, what about the universe which contains the solar system and the planets which go around the sun in circles, there are about billions stars nearly in every galaxy and there are about millions of galaxies
and what about the human body and if you asked me what is the best machine i would say the human body, it's so complicated. Just give one machine which is more complicated/better/. Don't tell me those ain't evidence ! They can't be exists by sudden! They can't be come from nowhere. There's must be one who created all these. You can't say I won't believe in god until I see him ! And I'm sure that alot of things that you believe in you haven't seen it.
They claim that I'm violent, just cause I refuse to be silent
These hypocrites are havin fits, cause I'm not buyin it
Defyin it, envious because I will rebel against
any oppressor, and this is known as self defense
I show no mercy, they claim that I'm the lunatic
But when the shit gets thick, I'm the one you go and get
Don't look confused, the truth is so plain to see
Cause I'm the nigga that you sell-outs are ashamed to be
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Re: What Religion are you?

Postby WakeUpShow » Jul 30th, '10, 23:18

Fa-Q wrote:
Lello18 wrote:
Fa-Q wrote:I believe in God. Not Christian or Catholic....just believe in God



Christian or Catholic? Catholics are christians....

Yeah but theres miles between them. I consider them two different religions

A Christian is a person who believes Jesus Christ is Lord. Catholics are Christians
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Re: What Religion are you?

Postby Verses » Jul 31st, '10, 00:02

I believe there is some kind of God/Higher Being/Entity we don't quite understand, but I don't think any religion at the moment has the right idea. I don't worship said entity, but I believe it exists.

So...I think that's other, lol?
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Re: What Religion are you?

Postby vt_x_spider » Jul 31st, '10, 00:23

omar khalid wrote:first of all, I mean no offence to you but "vt_x_spider" has started it.
Ok, how can you say there's no evidence for god ? this whole universe isn't an evidence?! Even you (human being) is evidence. how can you be exist ? how could this universe is built with no creater to create it ?
For simple example, If I told you I saw a ship building itself ?!! would you believe me ? of corse no.
So, what about the universe which contains the solar system and the planets which go around the sun in circles, there are about billions stars nearly in every galaxy and there are about millions of galaxies
and what about the human body and if you asked me what is the best machine i would say the human body, it's so complicated. Just give one machine which is more complicated/better/. Don't tell me those ain't evidence ! They can't be exists by sudden! They can't be come from nowhere. There's must be one who created all these. You can't say I won't believe in god until I see him ! And I'm sure that alot of things that you believe in you haven't seen it.


Ok, following that logic, who created the creator? Why don't the exact same rules apply to him? Everything begins somewhere, so what's his story? If this is your reasoning for believing in god...lmao.
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Re: What Religion are you?

Postby dR3 » Jul 31st, '10, 02:03

You forgot Orthodox you ignorant piece of fruit pie.
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Re: What Religion are you?

Postby mrjizzbomber » Jul 31st, '10, 09:13

Menzo wrote:Well, the Bible says God was always present, the Creator wasn't created. Scientists say the universe came to existence from one single, always present point of energy.

So...
people piece of two together.


Scientists have never made any claims on knowing the 'beginning' of the universe. There have only been theories. Don't equate the level of certainty of a scientific theory and the level of certainty of which the Bible claims to have.

Anyway, answering the poll I am also agnostic on the technicality that I am a scientific skeptic. My "belief" is that God doesn't exists, which would make me atheist... but outside the fairytale world of religion a whimsical, unfounded belief isn't something a person should live their life by.
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Re: What Religion are you?

Postby cityfan31 » Jul 31st, '10, 09:23

first of all, I mean no offence to you but "vt_x_spider" has started it.
Ok, how can you say there's no evidence for god ? this whole universe isn't an evidence?! Even you (human being) is evidence. how can you be exist ? how could this universe is built with no creater to create it ?
For simple example, If I told you I saw a ship building itself ?!! would you believe me ? of corse no.
So, what about the universe which contains the solar system and the planets which go around the sun in circles, there are about billions stars nearly in every galaxy and there are about millions of galaxies
and what about the human body and if you asked me what is the best machine i would say the human body, it's so complicated. Just give one machine which is more complicated/better/. Don't tell me those ain't evidence ! They can't be exists by sudden! They can't be come from nowhere. There's must be one who created all these. You can't say I won't believe in god until I see him ! And I'm sure that alot of things that you believe in you haven't seen it.


No offence taken.

Science can explain why there are planets, stars and how they all came about. It can explain what was going on millionths of a second after the universe began. Our ancestors didn't understand this, so they put it down to God.

The human body is an amazing thing, along with the other life on this planet. But the complexity of all the organisms you see now is the result of an equally amazing, simple process - evolution. Rather than appealing to a God to create everything, this theory explains logically how you can begin with extremely simple life forms and end up with what we have today. After Darwin discovered evolution, there is no need for God. What you see around you today didn't come from nothing, it slowly but surely happened over billions and billions of years.

Thirdly, a God who created the universe and all its complexities must be at least as complex as what he has created. Therefore, who created God? And surely that is an even harder question to answer because that being is EVEN more complex (as the other guy said).

The problem here is that humans try to put a cause to everything, that's the way we evolved because it is a useful survival tool. Why must the universe have been created?
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Re: What Religion are you?

Postby Omar Khalid » Jul 31st, '10, 16:39

Science can explain why there are planets, stars and how they all came about. It can explain what was going on millionths of a second after the universe began. Our ancestors didn't understand this, so they put it down to God.
How can you say that science can explain why there are planets, stars etc. Not everything they say is true. They're claiming they know, but they don't know. What are their theories ?! How can they say how planet was created or from where and from what ? their ideas/knowledge/explanation are based on false theories.
The human body is an amazing thing, along with the other life on this planet. But the complexity of all the organisms you see now is the result of an equally amazing, simple process - evolution. Rather than appealing to a God to create everything, this theory explains logically how you can begin with extremely simple life forms and end up with what we have today. After Darwin discovered evolution, there is no need for God. What you see around you today didn't come from nothing, it slowly but surely happened over billions and billions of years.
No, evolution ain't the right answer. Human are human. We're not animals which are developed along billions of years. And even IF the evolution theory was right in the past there were simple life so, From were did the simple life come from (Even this theory can't be done without the idea of presence of god) ?
Thirdly, a God who created the universe and all its complexities must be at least as complex as what he has created. Therefore, who created God? And surely that is an even harder question to answer because that being is EVEN more complex (as the other guy said).

The problem here is that humans try to put a cause to everything, that's the way we evolved because it is a useful survival tool. Why must the universe have been created?

well, 1st no one saw god no one know how he looks like.Therefore, we don't know everything. what we know (the only thing) is God exist. we don't know if god was created or not. As I said no one knows everything. In my religion (Islam) we will know everything about god and see him in the judgement day.
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These hypocrites are havin fits, cause I'm not buyin it
Defyin it, envious because I will rebel against
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But when the shit gets thick, I'm the one you go and get
Don't look confused, the truth is so plain to see
Cause I'm the nigga that you sell-outs are ashamed to be
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Re: What Religion are you?

Postby SajN » Jul 31st, '10, 18:08

Menzo wrote:This is why I fuckin hate religious threads... :facepalm

Me too.



It will as always be opinions, and they will moooost likely never change. It will just be back and forth discussions with no value.

We have been through this quite a few times.

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