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Postby D@vid » May 17th, '07, 04:39

i just wanna say its not worth getting heated over. u can debate this, but nobody will probably ever know a true answer. theres great reasons for both sides. i still haven't watched that movie :sweating: but i don;t know if i will. to be honest, it may have some facts but theres just no way of proving anything, so to me its not worth debating. the worlds fucked up. im just gonna live my life until things become too crazy, and the government has too much control (they kinda do already). the government has the control and power to do anything, including making ppl disappear never to be seen again. im not gonna worry too much about it. yes, i don't want the next generations to suffer cuz of what we did, but ill be dead. so many ppl already don't recognize the ppl that came before us and gave us what we have already, so its pointless to do anything for the next generation, to me at least. when u get stressed over things that are not that important in the grand scheme of things, u just waste ur time and emotions. like dani said, its been done, theres nothing we can change, lets just move on and worry about things that could help us rather than worrying about things that will result in nothing important happening. so we prove the government killed everybody, what do we do then? they're gonna do whatever they want anyways cuz they're so corrupt. as long as they don't fuck with me too much, i won't fuck with them
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Postby AspirinE » May 17th, '07, 07:46

$0 R3@L wrote:intresting video about the actual buildings themselfs explaining why it couldnt possibly be knocked down via plane collisions.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid= ... 1483512003



i watched this documentary last night, and this is way more researched and revised than loose change, props for this.


i dare anybody to actually debate the facts, not only because i believe in that which is said, but i also see it to be interesting to see another side of the story, but the only other side of the story is the official report wich has holes in theory.
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Postby Hadez » May 17th, '07, 11:02

wut i wanna know is why are these people trippin over the pulling of building 7, wut does that hafta do with 1 n 2.
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Postby AspirinE » May 17th, '07, 11:24

Hadez wrote:wut i wanna know is why are these people trippin over the pulling of building 7, wut does that hafta do with 1 n 2.


building 7, had documents, documents that COULD(im not saying they did, cause i don't know) lead to some discoveries relevant to the WTC destrution story, and they basically lied that it was destroyed by fire, when that is laughable.


Btw, in the video i quoted theres a interesting point in the end about who owns WTC security and the airport security(airport from which the plains were stolen) ... Bush's brother. And also it explained how there was construction works on some floors that were cut off and cameras were turned off a few weeks before 9/11... which kind of explains the whole concept of explosives being in the world trade center. Coz i remember arguing on this board like a few years ago with somebody asking me "how do i propose it got there"
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Postby Hadez » May 17th, '07, 11:44

AspirinE wrote:

Btw, in the video i quoted theres a interesting point in the end about who owns WTC security and the airport security(airport from which the plains were stolen) ... Bush's brother. And also it explained how there was construction works on some floors that were cut off and cameras were turned off a few weeks before 9/11... which kind of explains the whole concept of explosives being in the world trade center. Coz i remember arguing on this board like a few years ago with somebody asking me "how do i propose it got there"

yea i saw the video earlier, some good info. i kinda fills in some gaps that were in the alex jones video.
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Postby AspirinE » May 17th, '07, 16:51

Heres a CIA documentary about their "black operations" purely based on facts, after watching this and tell me that they couldnt sacrifice 3000 (CIA sponsored massacres of millions.) people to take over the middle east. Not to mention that this video directly shows how CIA drugged millions and influenced heroin trafficing.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 7032&hl=en
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Postby $0 R3@L » May 17th, '07, 19:43

wow great find asp :worship:

what i find intresting with people such as 'popular mechanics' is they always seem to try disprove the actual demolition side of the events and pay NO attention to facts such as the army government excercising a 'plane being used as a weapon' since 1989.The same pilot who helped them from 1989 happend to be the same pilot who was driving the plane that hit the pentagon.

even though they was running excercises about possible attacks via airplane attack bush claims 'none of our government officials could have even imagined a possible attack via airplanes as weapons'.They was practacing such research since 1989 even as way back as 1960's when they released files talking about making false attacks from cuba to give reasons to overthrow them.

Or how the twins towers were insured for possible terrorist attacks 7 weeks before spetember 11th.

No one ever tries disprove these facts and try just blind us with 'experts' who know better then us about demolition,may i add all these 'experts' always end up being government experts.
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » May 17th, '07, 22:16

i just finished watching the Loos change edition 2 documentary, and i always had thoughts about the conspirecy but had never had it spelled out like that

and really, i beileive most of it if not all of it, props for the video real :worship:

while watching i tried to argue the points but i couldnt, the demolishion of the towers was pure fact, you could see the bombs goin off 10 floors below at a time, i really dont know how you can argue against that when the fall of the towers was the exact same as the professional demolishions of buildings shown on the video, the pentagon also seemed pure fact to me, i really havent got much to sya btu that i beileive that documentary fully, and that im goni to check out the other ones posted

one thing i wanne say, neerer the end of loose change they are showing a professor getting interviewed on fox and you can tell the fox representitive has been told how to act with the guy, calling him a nut ect. and talking over all his points, the guy was basically just tyring to get viewers to laugh at the guy so they wouldnt beileive him it was obvious when watching it


anywae im goni to watch the other videos :happy:
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Postby $0 R3@L » May 17th, '07, 23:42

,-,'-{Bar}-',-, wrote:i just finished watching the Loos change edition 2 documentary, and i always had thoughts about the conspirecy but had never had it spelled out like that

and really, i beileive most of it if not all of it, props for the video real :worship:

while watching i tried to argue the points but i couldnt, the demolishion of the towers was pure fact, you could see the bombs goin off 10 floors below at a time, i really dont know how you can argue against that when the fall of the towers was the exact same as the professional demolishions of buildings shown on the video, the pentagon also seemed pure fact to me, i really havent got much to sya btu that i beileive that documentary fully, and that im goni to check out the other ones posted

one thing i wanne say, neerer the end of loose change they are showing a professor getting interviewed on fox and you can tell the fox representitive has been told how to act with the guy, calling him a nut ect. and talking over all his points, the guy was basically just tyring to get viewers to laugh at the guy so they wouldnt beileive him it was obvious when watching it


anywae im goni to watch the other videos :happy:


yer i mentioned a few posts back about the biased media and how there used to dissolve intrest in the facts of government involvment,people like fox and popular mechanics who use NOTHING but government official experts for info on demolition etc etc -_-

and for sure man try and take 3 hours out and watch the Alex Jones video which in my eyes is the best at explaining what the government stands to gain.

and np man if it gets these views and facts out its gotta be only a good thing.
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Postby sixersi349 » May 17th, '07, 23:44

i liked the song they made "bush knocked down the towers"
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Postby $0 R3@L » May 17th, '07, 23:46

sixersi349 wrote:i liked the song they made "bush knocked down the towers"


thats immortal tech....anyone who aint heard can play it in my sig

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Postby Hadez » May 17th, '07, 23:53

$0 R3@L wrote:
yer i mentioned a few posts back about the biased media and how there used to dissolve intrest in the facts of government involvment,people like fox and popular mechanics who use NOTHING but government official experts for info on demolition etc etc -_-

and for sure man try and take 3 hours out and watch the Alex Jones video which in my eyes is the best at explaining what the government stands to gain.

and np man if it gets these views and facts out its gotta be only a good thing.

i think all of them are worth watching, i haven't seen Asp's posted video yet but i plan to. i thought the loose change was a good explanation of the pentagon, alex jones had info on govn't plans (plus some very good trivial info for those who dont believe it), and the 3rd one was good explanation on why it would be a demolition. but i agree, the Alex Jones one is the best. and if you'd only watch one, watch that one.
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Postby AspirinE » May 18th, '07, 10:45

So real, alex jones is a nut, he gets paid to make his conspiracies bigger. He accuses everything to be illuminati without no solid proof, even though i give him props for getting into the bohemian grove and filming their rituals and shit, i still pitty the man when he says something like "the communist movement was created by bankers after ww1" .... theres no rofits in those kind of revolutions and thats why they cal them "peoples revolution", not to mention that every soviet citizen new what a "mason" was and hated them because they were like the underground articracy who pulled strings.
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Postby $0 R3@L » May 18th, '07, 11:22

AspirinE wrote:So real, alex jones is a nut, he gets paid to make his conspiracies bigger. He accuses everything to be illuminati without no solid proof, even though i give him props for getting into the bohemian grove and filming their rituals and shit, i still pitty the man when he says something like "the communist movement was created by bankers after ww1" .... theres no rofits in those kind of revolutions and thats why they cal them "peoples revolution", not to mention that every soviet citizen new what a "mason" was and hated them because they were like the underground articracy who pulled strings.


lol i must admit the whole 'illuminati' thing was a little far fetched.The nazi links part was intresting and the bohemian grove shit but maybe a little too much.His evidence about the 9-11 events is solid however.Gotta admit the guy does got some brilliant evidence and lmao @ the communist women who says 'shame stalin didnt get you'.
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Postby AspirinE » May 18th, '07, 11:32

$0 R3@L wrote:
AspirinE wrote:So real, alex jones is a nut, he gets paid to make his conspiracies bigger. He accuses everything to be illuminati without no solid proof, even though i give him props for getting into the bohemian grove and filming their rituals and shit, i still pitty the man when he says something like "the communist movement was created by bankers after ww1" .... theres no rofits in those kind of revolutions and thats why they cal them "peoples revolution", not to mention that every soviet citizen new what a "mason" was and hated them because they were like the underground articracy who pulled strings.


lol i must admit the whole 'illuminati' thing was a little far fetched.The nazi links part was intresting and the bohemian grove shit but maybe a little too much.His evidence about the 9-11 events is solid however.Gotta admit the guy does got some brilliant evidence and lmao @ the communist women who says 'shame stalin didnt get you'.


lmao.


As far as i know, there are like 1000 of these illuminati cults, some are even opposing each other, i watched some real good documentary on it but i cant find it in english to post.

These freemason cults just recruit the highest ranking officials, at least outside america, in america seeing as they have the whole thing on the US dollar i have no idea how far it can go.
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