9-11 by the american government.

[Kez]

Ever since i saw Loose Change II it's convinced me.

There's just too many unanswered questions and coincidences.

[James R.]

You can believe what you want, but that's bullshit. If the goal was to unite the country how the fuck would the government let some guy compile this video and not put a stop to it? Because as far as I can see he made this video to put people against the government. So if the government can use the death of thousands of people to go to war and unite the country, and can kill JFK, and can hide the Roswell shit, then why the hell would they suddenly let this one guy through that wants to thwart their plans? That just doesn't make sense. And I've watched quite a few "9/11 Conspiracy" videos and they've all led me to the same outcome. People have way too much fucking time on their hands and are way too desperate to be crowned King for unmasking a government conspiracy.

[4D]

You can believe what you want, but that's bullshit. If the goal was to unite the country how the fuck would the government let some guy compile this video and not put a stop to it? Because as far as I can see he made this video to put people against the government. So if the government can use the death of thousands of people to go to war and unite the country, and can kill JFK, and can hide the Roswell shit, then why the hell would they suddenly let this one guy through that wants to thwart their plans? That just doesn't make sense. And I've watched quite a few "9/11 Conspiracy" videos and they've all led me to the same outcome. People have way too much fucking time on their hands and are way too desperate to be crowned King for unmasking a government conspiracy.

Yeah I`m with you man, it's all a pile of bullshit!!

[AspirinE]

You can believe what you want, but that's bullshit. If the goal was to unite the country how the fuck would the government let some guy compile this video and not put a stop to it? Because as far as I can see he made this video to put people against the government. So if the government can use the death of thousands of people to go to war and unite the country, and can kill JFK, and can hide the Roswell shit, then why the hell would they suddenly let this one guy through that wants to thwart their plans? That just doesn't make sense. And I've watched quite a few "9/11 Conspiracy" videos and they've all led me to the same outcome. People have way too much fucking time on their hands and are way too desperate to be crowned King for unmasking a government conspiracy.

Yeah I`m with you man, it's all a pile of bullshit!!

Coz hiding conspiracies makes the actual conspiracy more credible. And thanx to the internet, the video has already spread. When Kennedy got shot all the info you'd get was from a bubbly black and white tv and a newspaper that carries a one sided view.

They don't accept yours or mine opinions as threat, its also very easy to down play.

the statement, "if these guys are making this documentary, why aint they killed yet" is stupid, plain stupid, it discredits no facts about the actual theory , only downplays it.

State sponsored terrorism isn't a nuisance, it was in all big countries with a lot to bet on and even more to lose.

[4D]

I still don't believe a government like USA would actively kill thousands of their own innocent people, just to go to war. It's a load of bullshit man.

[$0 R3@L]

You can believe what you want, but that's bullshit. If the goal was to unite the country how the fuck would the government let some guy compile this video and not put a stop to it? Because as far as I can see he made this video to put people against the government. So if the government can use the death of thousands of people to go to war and unite the country, and can kill JFK, and can hide the Roswell shit, then why the hell would they suddenly let this one guy through that wants to thwart their plans? That just doesn't make sense. And I've watched quite a few "9/11 Conspiracy" videos and they've all led me to the same outcome. People have way too much fucking time on their hands and are way too desperate to be crowned King for unmasking a government conspiracy.

erm one person compile a video?

dude theres around 1000 groups now making such sites and documentarys tryna get some answers from the government hell even Imortal Technique is protesting against the government....you really think the government is gonna be as stupid to assisinate each and everyone? because THAT my friend is bullshit.Instead there gonna just pull the patriotic card and use outlets such as the media to try sway hate towards protestors who simply want answers for the obvious black holes in the governments stories of 911 events.

[AspirinE]

I still don't believe a government like USA would actively kill thousands of their own innocent people, just to go to war. It's a load of bullshit man.

If a government can send soldiers which are the same innocent people to fight in a war for money (all wars are for money and resources) why cant they 3000 casualties of war. Those people make decisions effecting millions of lives, what makes you think they couldnt have been faced with an "ultimatum" to lose 3000 over a larger number of victims, resources, POWER and credibility.

[James R.]

1000's of groups that are spewing bullshit

[$0 R3@L]

1000's of groups that are spewing bullshit

and one government thats blinding you with it.

[joelle]

Everything every conspiracy theorist says applies to themselves. "You're closeminded." "You're being blinded." etc etc. Interesting.
1) Of COURSE the FBI confiscated surveillance tapes. Why wouldn't they? They're investigators and 3,000 people had just been killed. Wouldn't you take the tapes as evidence?
2) http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html
I suggest people read that. Though I doubt many of you will.
3) I will repeat..I do not believe the entire United States government, military, FBI, not to mention countless engineering and demolition experts that were called in, would consciously kill thousands of innocent civilians without one single person speaking up. I do not believe that, even if there wasn't countless evidence to debunk conspiracy theories. If that makes me ignorant, oh well then, I choose to be ignorant.

[,-,'-{Bar}-',-,]

Everything every conspiracy theorist says applies to themselves. "You're closeminded." "You're being blinded." etc etc. Interesting.
1) Of COURSE the FBI confiscated surveillance tapes. Why wouldn't they? They're investigators and 3,000 people had just been killed. Wouldn't you take the tapes as evidence?
2) http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html
I suggest people read that. Though I doubt many of you will.
3) I will repeat..I do not believe the entire United States government, military, FBI, not to mention countless engineering and demolition experts that were called in, would consciously kill thousands of innocent civilians without one single person speaking up. I do not believe that, even if there wasn't countless evidence to debunk conspiracy theories. If that makes me ignorant, oh well then, I choose to be ignorant.

money and fear of death can do alot of things to even the strongest minded people

[James R.]

$0 R3@L
and one government thats blinding you with it.

I'm sorry that I can't seem to grasp the concept that a government that already does w/e the hell it wants needs to kill 3,000 of its own people to have an excuse to do something. But right, I'm definitely blind because I have an opinion, and anyone whose opinion doesn't match yours or anyone who tries to raise question to these conspiracy theorists is blind. Blind, blind, blind. I'm all for a good conspiracy but when common sense and logic can disprove AT LEAST 65% of your points there's something wrong. So until SOMEONE can show me SOMETHING aside from loose change or any of the other half baked, completely biased videos out there that disregard information and in a LOT of cases make shit up, I'll just deal with being blind.

Don't reply because I'm not coming back into the thread, that's my last piece. So peace out.

[$0 R3@L]

$0 R3@L
and one government thats blinding you with it.

I'm sorry that I can't seem to grasp the concept that a government that already does w/e the hell it wants needs to kill 3,000 of its own people to have an excuse to do something. But right, I'm definitely blind because I have an opinion, and anyone whose opinion doesn't match yours or anyone who tries to raise question to these conspiracy theorists is blind. Blind, blind, blind. I'm all for a good conspiracy but when common sense and logic can disprove AT LEAST 65% of your points there's something wrong. So until SOMEONE can show me SOMETHING aside from loose change or any of the other half baked, completely biased videos out there that disregard information and in a LOT of cases make shit up, I'll just deal with being blind.

Don't reply because I'm not coming back into the thread, that's my last piece. So peace out.

yup cast your view and then walk away not to hear responses...thats blind

the biggest conspiracy is that a man in a mountain thought up and arrange a devastating attack on america with 15 basically trained men and executed the attacks with MILATARY precision, thats the biggest ball of shit right there.

and you said common sense cancel outs 65% of this stuff well isnt even 35% enough to ask questions?....even if a government puppet has 35% worth of doubt thats enough reason to tell me somethings up.

Oh and people who belive that the government would never kill its own people (which obviously it would after killing its own president and army of soldiers) only have to take a look at the Northwood documents.

Operation Northwoods

To establish that the United States government (which some allege to have carried out the September 11, 2001 attacks) would be willing to use a staged incident to generate support for an armed conflict (which some conspiracy theorists say was the purpose behind the attacks) conspiracy theorists have often pointed to Operation Northwoods. This plan,which was proposed by U.S. Department of Defense leaders in 1962 during the Kennedy administration, was meant to generate U.S. public support for military action against the Cuban government of Fidel Castro. The plan suggested various false flag actions, including simulated or real state sponsored acts of terrorism on U.S. and Cuban soil. The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. The plan, however, was rejected by the Kennedy administration.

[joelle]

I'm just going to say one more thing, and then I'm done, too.
The disrespect most of these theories and supporters of such towards the victims of these attacks is absolutely astounding. It truly disgusts me.
For Dylan Avery to label the phone calls of the victims to their friends and family as "extremely peculiar"..to suggest these calls were never made so "none of it matters"..to completely demean their deaths and causes of such..to flat-out tell the families of the victims of Flight 93 that the plane had not been overthrown and driven into a Pennsylvania field, when 95% of the plane was recovered and all the passengers were identified..for him to then shrug off questions of where all the passengers were by saying "I don't know. I only have theories"..for him to suggest the calls made were artificial, that the callers were being impersonated and the people who received the calls couldn't even realize it wasn't their loved one on the other end..and THEN for supporters of these theories to say things like (and I quote), "I think these people that think Flight 93 is a great movie, are using it to hide their pain. They don't want to admit to the truth and they would much rather believe their familiy members were heros." wtf? I sincerely hope this douche gets his ass kicked.
I mean, I really didn't think this much bullshit disrespect could be possible. That's really what angers me most about these theories. Yes, theories, because you cannot prove they are true, no more than Dylan Avery or Alex Jones can. Loose Change has so many holes in it, it's ridiculous, from the number of passengers per flight, to facts and numbers and unnecessary assumptions...there are 200+ errors in a movie that's just over an hour long, I believe. I realize this discussion also encumbers Alex Jones' film, but since the prick Dylan Avery worships him, I can only imagine what he's saying.
Honestly, it's the most insulting thing in the world to take a tragedy that happened and twist it just because most of the supporters want to be anti-government. So real, your signature, "FUCK BUSH", just emphasizes my point. And also.."The plan, however, was rejected by the Kennedy administration." <--- That right there is my point. First of all, just because someone had an idea years ago does not mean it pertains to what happened on 9-11. Secondly, of course people are capable of senseless murder. But an entire government, military, FBI, demolition crew, dozens of experts, etc etc etc etc? A little paranoia is healthy. But that's just ridiculous.
And Bar..I still don't buy it. I really don't. I don't buy the reasonings behind the government pulling this off. So we'd be nationalistic for about a month? 3,000 lives just so we'd like America a little bit more? Or how about the "rally America against arabs" angle? Since when does the gov need an excuse to start a war against public opinion? Even THIS war in Iraq is against public opinion. None of this shit adds up. At first when I heard about the conspiracy, I was surprised and interested. Then, I was convinced. Then, I was skeptical. Now I'm just downright offended. There's not a single part of this theory that makes unquestionable sense or has hard, tangible evidence that I can see (and believe me, I've tried to see. I thought that with a good percentage of people buying this, there had to be at least ONE substantial point. I've yet to find one that cannot be countered with something that makes just as much, if not more, sense).
All I ask is that we give the victims and their families some fucking respect.
Ok. I'm done for real now.

[4D]

Let's remember one thing, no one allowed them to go to war with Iraq anyway. Nato told them not to, but they did anyway. Why the fuck would they kill 3000 people to do what's perfectly easy anyway, they didn't even do it because of 911, they blamed it on the threat of Mass Destruction.

Despite your intelligence Aspirine, you are really gullible sometimes.