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Re: Foreigners

Postby classthe_king » Dec 15th, '12, 20:40

Hell no.

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Re: Foreigners

Postby SliK » Dec 16th, '12, 00:51

If you move to a country that you know won't be very tolerant of you... That's your fault, completely. Either stay in your own country or accept the new country, and it's people, exactly the way it is.

Is it better than where you're from?
Yes? Then shut the fuck up.
No? Then go home.
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Re: Foreigners

Postby SliK » Dec 16th, '12, 14:19

Move away from the Arab world then, lol.
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Re: Foreigners

Postby Amaranthine » Dec 16th, '12, 17:59

Menzo wrote:It's not a big deal if they actually contribute to society.

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Re: Foreigners

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 16th, '12, 19:04

bigray wrote:
SliK wrote:If you move to a country that you know won't be very tolerant of you... That's your fault, completely. Either stay in your own country or accept the new country, and it's people, exactly the way it is.

Is it better than where you're from?
Yes? Then shut the fuck up.
No? Then go home.


Perfectly said.



You two act like idiots.

Im swedish, and we have a big "problem" with imigrants that wont work and adapt to our society. But its not their fault. Its the goverment whos fucked up. They are so scared of being called racist that they want us swedes to adapt to the imigrants way of living.

Examples
Many schools have to serve halal butchered meat.
The open/closed schedual for bathhouses change whenever there are muslims attending.
We cant eat gingercookies anymore due to them having a brown colour.
Our nationalanthem is more or less banned due to it being racist apperently.
We cant have our swedish flag out if any imigrants get offended.
Etc
Etc
Belive me, theres more...

However, coming to a new country isnt easy. Imagine havng to learn a different language just to be able to get a job and even functon in the society.
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Re: Foreigners

Postby Amaranthine » Dec 16th, '12, 19:15

cheeseburger wrote:We cant eat gingercookies anymore due to them having a brown colour.

....Dude, for real? :confusion:
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Re: Foreigners

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 16th, '12, 19:20

Yes, its for real.

These guys are racist as fuck, cant you see?
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Re: Foreigners

Postby SliK » Dec 16th, '12, 23:19

cheeseburger wrote:
bigray wrote:
SliK wrote:If you move to a country that you know won't be very tolerant of you... That's your fault, completely. Either stay in your own country or accept the new country, and it's people, exactly the way it is.

Is it better than where you're from?
Yes? Then shut the fuck up.
No? Then go home.


Perfectly said.



You two act like idiots.

Im swedish, and we have a big "problem" with imigrants that wont work and adapt to our society. But its not their fault. Its the goverment whos fucked up. They are so scared of being called racist that they want us swedes to adapt to the imigrants way of living.

Examples
Many schools have to serve halal butchered meat.
The open/closed schedual for bathhouses change whenever there are muslims attending.
We cant eat gingercookies anymore due to them having a brown colour.
Our nationalanthem is more or less banned due to it being racist apperently.
We cant have our swedish flag out if any imigrants get offended.
Etc
Etc
Belive me, theres more...

However, coming to a new country isnt easy. Imagine havng to learn a different language just to be able to get a job and even functon in the society.

And how does your shitty government make me an idiot?
I said what I said because if anything, Australia's Government is also very accommodating of foreigners, so much that it does impact on our normal way of life.

There is no need for name calling, because tbfh you wouldn't come out on top.
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Re: Foreigners

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 16th, '12, 23:27

I said you ACTED as an idiot, which you were. Nothing is black and white (lol)
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Re: Foreigners

Postby SliK » Dec 17th, '12, 00:21

If you don't like a country you shouldn't visit it.
If you like a country you shouldn't complain or try to change it.
Believe it or not, nations don't have to change to suit the needs of people who aren't even citizens.
But yeah that's a totally idiotic belief, I can see why you would say that.

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Re: Foreigners

Postby AbramIsaac » Dec 17th, '12, 05:38

A country is comprised of the people that inhabit it.

Foreigners should take that into consideration. Some nations are comprised of people that have incompatible or conflicting beliefs and cultural attitudes. If that's the case, you must factor that into your decision on whether or not to call that place your home. If you willingly decide to call a hostile place your home, just make sure you're doing it for the right reasons.

The United States is one of those nations that is built on immigration...and indigenous genocide...and slavery...and...well, never mind. My point is, even in a place that is based on an idea of opportunity and a chance at a better life for people from all over the world, there are places here that you just don't move to if you're from certain countries. Mainly, just stay the fuck away from the South and you'll be fine.

I believe if you want to change a country, you should be doing it for the right reasons. If your reasons are self-serving, then you're an asshole. Meaning, if you are coming to another country, and you don't like the way things are going because of how it affects you, trying to change the culture to suit your needs is selfish. If you're going somewhere to help the people that are already there--the people that already make up that nation's sense of culture--then you may be in for disappointment, but at least you're not a prick.

I can't reiterate this enough, though. Stay the fuck out of the South.
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Re: Foreigners

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 17th, '12, 07:05

SliK wrote:If you don't like a country you shouldn't visit it.
If you like a country you shouldn't complain or try to change it.
Believe it or not, nations don't have to change to suit the needs of people who aren't even citizens.
But yeah that's a totally idiotic belief, I can see why you would say that.

Fuck you.



What the fuck are you talking about?? You think people move to this cold ass motherfucking country because the rumors say were such pussies to imigrants?
No, they move here because they see help. For fucks sake, they take their whole families with them, trying to build a new life. Away from slaughters, stalking and war. These people are hardened fucks who has seen more shit than your sorry internet ass. Do you really think they come here with the idea of just chilling? No, they intend to work hard to get a new life.
But when they come here they see that they dont have to, cause our goverment is so scared of being called racist for pushing them or treating them equal that they give them rights and stuff we others would only dream about.
So why would they fucking bother to work? I know I wouldnt if the oppurtunity came... And I guess you wouldnt either.
Shame on you :shakehead:

A little sidenote, back when we didnt have any people in this country. (Dead from plauge, war with finns, cold or whatever) we needed imigrants to build up or homeland. We welcomed them. And back then they didnt get any more rights than us. And guess what, they didnt complain. They got a chance of a better living.
But now, well I dont know why we all of a sudden tought that they need more help. We're pussies..
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Re: Foreigners

Postby SliK » Dec 17th, '12, 08:02

Wtf just happened..
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Re: Foreigners

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 17th, '12, 08:04

I dont know. You and I seam to talk such different language that I dont know what the fuck you want. What do you want out of this conversation? Can you put your thoughts down on paper a bit more than before, please?
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Re: Foreigners

Postby SliK » Dec 17th, '12, 08:08

I don't think governments should change their countries to suit foreigners. I think if someone wants to move to a new country, they should accept that country exactly how it is. If they aren't willing to do that then they shouldn't move there in the first place.
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