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Re: Guns

Postby CrashBand » Dec 17th, '12, 13:52

Lol.

I already said there will still be massacres. It won't stop people who are planning/willing to massacre from getting guns.

But I think it will lower the amount of people obtaining guns and the amount of Homicides.

Changing the gun culture would be harder/more significant.

But changing the laws could go some way as to doing that.
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Re: Guns

Postby SliK » Dec 17th, '12, 13:54

Maybe Proof would still be with us Q.Q
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Re: Guns

Postby CrashBand » Dec 17th, '12, 13:56

SliK wrote:Maybe Proof would still be with us Q.Q

Not sure if serious.

But I'd definitely agree.
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Re: Guns

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 17th, '12, 14:00

bigray wrote:There are so many people in the USA it would be hard to change the people as well. ..it is a mixture of both. People and gun laws both need to change. ...it is easy to change the laws but hard to change people.



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Re: Guns

Postby SliK » Dec 17th, '12, 14:04

I wonder if suicide rates would drop :-k
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Re: Guns

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 17th, '12, 14:35

SliK wrote:I wonder if suicide rates would drop :-k


Theres still trains, bridges, meds, highways, knifes and lions. So there will still be suicides. But they will drop for sure.
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Re: Guns

Postby ChristinaE12 » Dec 17th, '12, 15:13

Well.. I'll keep it simple for now.

If guns are outlawed then only outlaws will have guns.
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Re: Guns

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 17th, '12, 15:24

ChristinaE12 wrote:Well.. I'll keep it simple for now.

If guns are outlawed then only outlaws will have guns.



American way of thinking. :facepalm

The whole gole is to make the everyday person stop having guns.
These guys who shot up schools and theatres wasnt any outlaws as you call them. They were normal americans with fucked up minds. If there was a law against guns, maybe they wouldnt get hold of them as easy as they did.

Stupid reasoning.. You will NEVER take away crooks and outlaws. There will always be people that wont follow the law.
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Re: Guns

Postby ChristinaE12 » Dec 17th, '12, 15:31

Your way of thinking is pretty flawed and has been proven countless times..

If someone has the intention to cause harm they are going to do it by whatever force necessary.

If it's not a gun it will be a knife. If its not a knife it will be a bat...etc.

Why take away everyone's guns when only a select few abuse them.

Guns don't kill people, people do couldn't be any more true than right now. Why do you think that is said so often?
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Re: Guns

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 17th, '12, 15:38

ChristinaE12 wrote:Your way of thinking is pretty flawed and has been proven countless times..

If someone has the intention to cause harm they are going to do it by whatever force necessary.

If it's not a gun it will be a knife. If its not a knife it will be a bat...etc.

Why take away everyone's guns when only a select few abuse them.

Guns don't kill people, people do couldn't be any more true than right now. Why do you think that is said so often?



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Re: Guns

Postby ChristinaE12 » Dec 17th, '12, 15:44

Get rid of your arrogance of America before you argue please.

And its cause its very true.
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Re: Guns

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 17th, '12, 15:55

For fucks sake. Its easier pulling a trigger than waving around a fucking bat...
Not to mention, do you think this slaughter on the fifthgraders would happen with a bat?

This guy was no crook with firearms bought from some dopedealer on the block. He problably bought his guns in a store a week erlier or maybe he even had them at home allready. Because its legal to have guns!!


Guns dont go out and shoot people, they need a finger to pull the trigger and operate them. Any idiot realises that...
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Re: Guns

Postby ChristinaE12 » Dec 17th, '12, 16:01

You must be young. Or at least I hope so..

Anywho... Do you have any valid arguments against having guns.. doesn't sound like it. It appears to just be a personal thing.
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Re: Guns

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 17th, '12, 16:04

Im 22 with no experience of guns at all. I think it would be fucking stupid if i could just walk in to a store and buy a gun. And im sane, at least on paper lol. But theres lot of people out there whos totally fucked up. Putting a gun in their hands is stupid.
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Re: Guns

Postby ChristinaE12 » Dec 17th, '12, 16:08

Yeah but that is just it.. We don't put guns in their hands. Most the time they are stealing them.


I will say though that I believe people should gave to pass like IQ tests for guns.. as well as getting drivers licenses.

The real problem is just too many fucking idiots out there.
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