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The American Pledge of Allegiance

Postby UofLCard » Apr 27th, '13, 20:20

As most Americans know (or maybe not), the original Pledge did not inlude the words 'under God'. It wasn't until 1954 and the 'Communist Red Scare' that President Eisenhower made the altercation to it.

Do yuo believe 'under God' should be removed?
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Re: The American Pledge of Allegiance

Postby Kill You » Apr 27th, '13, 22:03

Yes, but I have no problem with it being there too. I'm really neutral about this subject.
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Re: The American Pledge of Allegiance

Postby tadpole25 » Apr 28th, '13, 01:42

Since there is no god, I'd rather it removed.

But it's not a big issue really, to me at least.
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Re: The American Pledge of Allegiance

Postby EmTV » Apr 28th, '13, 03:02

tadpole25 wrote:Since there is no god, I'd rather it removed.

But it's not a big issue really, to me at least.

This sums up my views on it.
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Re: The American Pledge of Allegiance

Postby Chet Starr » Apr 28th, '13, 03:10

I don't mind it at all. I love how it's such a big deal to change the marriage laws, but the government is totally fine with changing our Pledge of Allegiance.
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Re: The American Pledge of Allegiance

Postby SliK » Apr 28th, '13, 03:27

Chet Starr wrote:I don't mind it at all. I love how it's such a big deal to change the marriage laws, but the government is totally fine with changing our Pledge of Allegiance.

The commies must be even scarier than the homos.
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Re: The American Pledge of Allegiance

Postby UofLCard » Apr 28th, '13, 04:33

SliK wrote:
Chet Starr wrote:I don't mind it at all. I love how it's such a big deal to change the marriage laws, but the government is totally fine with changing our Pledge of Allegiance.

The commies must be even scarier than the homos.


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Re: The American Pledge of Allegiance

Postby Tash8 » Apr 28th, '13, 10:43

Yes. It should be gone.*
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Re: The American Pledge of Allegiance

Postby UofLCard » Apr 28th, '13, 21:57

InsaneTRex94 wrote:Although, come to think about it, I think it would cause a huge wave of outrage for a lot of people, especially in the bible belt. I think it would be seen as promoting atheism


But the same could be said about promoting Christianity with the words being left in, which is sort of what its attempt was in the 1950s.
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Re: The American Pledge of Allegiance

Postby Tash8 » Apr 28th, '13, 22:56

InsaneTRex94 wrote:Although, come to think about it, I think it would cause a huge wave of outrage for a lot of people, especially in the bible belt. I think it would be seen as promoting atheism...


No, removing it would be promoting freedom of religion. In no way was "Under God" referring to anything but the Christian God. It does not mean Allah, nor any other God or Gods that people believe in. It has nothing to do with promoting atheism, but it has everything to do with freedom of religion.

Note how our declaration of independence uses the word Creator and not God.
We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed
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Re: The American Pledge of Allegiance

Postby Kill You » Apr 29th, '13, 13:42

I just love how America assumes everyone believes in God and is a Christian though lol. There are a whole lot of atheists in America. Like Insane said, if you don't believe in it then DON'T SAY IT. You have the right not to say it, no matter what your teachers tell you in school. They can't make you say the pledge. Takes away the purpose of "being free."
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Re: The American Pledge of Allegiance

Postby space_bone » Apr 29th, '13, 14:19

Tash8 wrote:
InsaneTRex94 wrote:

Note how our declaration of independence uses the word Creator and not God.
We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed


Noted; but for what? ..what is the difference
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Re: The American Pledge of Allegiance

Postby Tash8 » Apr 30th, '13, 02:29

space_bone wrote:
Tash8 wrote:Note how our declaration of independence uses the word Creator and not God.
We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed


Noted; but for what? ..what is the difference


The difference is that creator can mean anything from God to your parents. God just means God.
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Re: The American Pledge of Allegiance

Postby Atone » Apr 30th, '13, 04:01

there should be no such thing as a pledge, always found it dumb as hell
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