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Animal Testing

Postby Mr Evil » Jul 21st, '14, 19:33

Should Animal Testing be banned?

My mates from Uni were debating about this today and I didn't really know where I stood
wondered what you guys and gals thought?
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Re: Animal Testing

Postby Supershade » Jul 21st, '14, 22:39

I think it should be, surprised its not already tbh
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Re: Animal Testing

Postby SliK » Jul 22nd, '14, 04:29

For cosmetics? Yes, of course.

For medications and other treatments? No, of course not.
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Re: Animal Testing

Postby SliK » Jul 22nd, '14, 04:39

Horse wrote:
SliK wrote:For cosmetics? Yes, of course.

For medications and other treatments? No, of course not.

How do you feel about experimenting on animals to learn more about human behaviour?
Psychologists love doing this and on animals like rats I can condone it.

Have you heard of Harry Harlow though?
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Re: Animal Testing

Postby SliK » Jul 22nd, '14, 05:37

He shed a lot of light on the bond between a parent and their child. He found that the bond is created through contact ("contact comfort" I think he called it), not just through breast feeding like they believed until this point. He was partly responsible for giving fathers equal custody rights over children, because his studies showed that fathers could bond with their children just as much via contact, despite not being able to breast feed.

The experiments he performed on his animals (I forget if they were apes or monkeys) were nothing short of torture, though.

50,000 edits later here's a wiki link http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Harlow
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Re: Animal Testing

Postby gutawafang » Jul 22nd, '14, 07:10

I believe it's needed for Victoria's Secret to exist.
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Re: Animal Testing

Postby Guess_Who » Jul 24th, '14, 14:34

If you enter here to Pamela Anderson's twitter pics, (she is very involded with animals right) there are some pics that are hard to see, about animal testing .

https://twitter.com/PamelaDAnderson/media

Don't want to post the pics because they can hurt some sensibilies. See this kind of things affect me because I love animals.

But I admit, probably most of the cosmetics I use, shampoos whatever were tested in animals, I have 2 leather jackets, leather shoes and boots........like most of us.

But I really wish they stopped testing in animals unless is completely necesary. There are already brands like The body shop that doesn't test in animals at all.
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Re: Animal Testing

Postby Guess_Who » Jul 25th, '14, 12:56

Menzo wrote:but we really don't have any other means of figuring these things out unless we take the risk and just use it untested on humans.


It depends. I think it's completely different if we talk about medicines that will save lots of human lifes than skinning an animal alive to make this :

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/ ... 34x939.jpg

Cosmetics don't need to be tested in animals, they have other ways right now. The way they test a shampoo to see if it will sting in the eyes is intruducing the shampoo over and over again in the eyes of a rabbit.
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Re: Animal Testing

Postby SliK » Jul 26th, '14, 01:55

Menzo wrote:I don't think fur coats and other accessories are really irrelevant. I think using an animal's fur isn't the biggest sin but it's done so inhumanely, it's disgusting.

I actually unfollowed Game in Instagram because he posted Polar Bear fur foot mats in his Porsche.

Fuck that shit
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Re: Animal Testing

Postby Guess_Who » Jul 26th, '14, 10:46

Like I said I have 2 leather jackets and shoes and boots, but to me fur coats is a whole different story. Everytime I see things like this :

http://amber-rose.org/gallery/albums/us ... eek-04.jpg

:shakehead: The cruelty way those animals are killed is a whole different story, to make the leather jacket or the shoes they use the same animals that we eat , but to make the fur coats, they have to skin them alive for the hair to be more shiny....

And it's an unnecesary cruelty because there are fake fur coats that look exactly the same. And I admit leather jackets too, I love the jackets but I feel kinda bad for having them.
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Re: Animal Testing

Postby UofLCard » Aug 1st, '14, 04:55

Use it on someone who's on death row. :coffee:
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Re: Animal Testing

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Re: Animal Testing

Postby UofLCard » Aug 1st, '14, 05:44

Horse wrote:i'm not a believer in the "eye for an eye" method of punishment


I adhere to this philosophy, expect when it comes to fire. I wouldn't wish death by fire on my worse enemy. The chilling prst is the fact that it's happening in the world right now for simple grievances like stealing potatoes.
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Re: Animal Testing

Postby Guess_Who » Aug 5th, '14, 22:12

UofLCard wrote:Use it on someone who's on death row. :coffee:


Now this is off-topic, but I'm so against death penalty.

I can't believe it still exist in 2014.
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Re: Animal Testing

Postby UofLCard » Aug 6th, '14, 04:32

Guess_Who wrote:
UofLCard wrote:Use it on someone who's on death row. :coffee:


Now this is off-topic, but I'm so against death penalty.

I can't believe it still exist in 2014.


I imagine one reason it still exists is because it costs a lot of tax money to keep someone in prison.
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