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The Israeli Occupation of Palestine

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Is it justified?

Poll ended at Mar 23rd, '08, 19:53

YES
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NO
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I'M TOO STUPID & SELFISH TO CARE
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Total votes : 11

The Israeli Occupation of Palestine

Postby notoriouS-K-M » Feb 22nd, '08, 19:53

Ok so what is your take on it. Do you think it's justified or not? And isn't it about time the problem was settled?What's the US role in this dispute? etc. Let's see the poll results.
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Re: The Israeli Occupation of Palestine

Postby BaZZ » Feb 26th, '08, 04:25

Of coarse it aint justified. I think the problem is gonna take ages to get settled - the Palestinians want their land so badly, and the Israelis need a place to live so they aren't willing to give the Palestinian land back. I think the Israeli plan is to take over the whole of Palestine bit by bit, until they have it all in their hands, and in the process, kill every Palestinian who stands for his country.

The US isn't doing anything to solve it, they are just supporting Israel all the way. Check the statistics in this site btw:
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
I mean cmon if you wanna fix the problem at least be fair to both sides.
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Re: The Israeli Occupation of Palestine

Postby Torben » Feb 26th, '08, 13:35

BaZZ wrote:Of coarse it aint justified. I think the problem is gonna take ages to get settled - the Palestinians want their land so badly, and the Israelis need a place to live so they aren't willing to give the Palestinian land back. I think the Israeli plan is to take over the whole of Palestine bit by bit, until they have it all in their hands, and in the process, kill every Palestinian who stands for his country.

The US isn't doing anything to solve it, they are just supporting Israel all the way. Check the statistics in this site btw:
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
I mean cmon if you wanna fix the problem at least be fair to both sides.


same here, just to add that even if the EU and other countries trying to solve the problem they don't do it continuelsly enough so its just a repeating circle of violence without having a solution insight.
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Re: The Israeli Occupation of Palestine

Postby AspirinE » Feb 27th, '08, 07:00

I dont believe in Israel. Ofcourse jewish people have a right to maintain their culture, but not a cost of stealing sovereignty. If every country took back land by way of saying 'it was once ours there for it still is' id be living in Alaska which would be one of the hundreds of republics sovereign under the the Russian Federation and i'd be taking trips in summer to Black Sea shore in Ukraine while i throw stones at the filthy broken language speaking meanderthals (that cant even back back the dept for using our gas) that claim it belongs to them because history can't be changed back.

I believe Jews are a cultural group, not a nation or race and should share land that is both Palestinian and Israeli's. I imagine being palestinian as me being in my home city "sochi" and getting kicked out by Armenians or Georgians, I assume i have the exact same right to be on that land.

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Re: The Israeli Occupation of Palestine

Postby AspirinE » Feb 27th, '08, 07:23

ohh noo... a jooooo
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Re: The Israeli Occupation of Palestine

Postby Tash8 » Feb 27th, '08, 07:26

can't we just all be fwiends?
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Re: The Israeli Occupation of Palestine

Postby Prodeo » Mar 7th, '08, 21:50

Israel should just respected the VN-resolution 242 in 1967: Israel pulls his troops out of occuped areas and in exchange Palestina recognize the state of Israel
(Israel says they followed that resolution because they left SOME occuped areas and not all as there is not said they should leave THE occuped areas, plain bullshit...)
If Israel would have done what was asked back then, there wouldn't be as much conflict in the region today.

Also what I truly hate in my country's (Belgium) press (I don't know if this is the case for the international press) is that everyone who writes an anti-zionistic article is depicted as a antisemitic. Jewish organisations deliberately equate antizionism with antisemitism to silence any criticism.
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Re: The Israeli Occupation of Palestine

Postby BaZZ » Mar 8th, '08, 07:09

McMaybe wrote:Heres a prime example, if your country won land in war's, its now theres right? still disagree?. (United states did the same thing with the Indians, Russia did it, Germany.. we know they did, and plenty others, just look it up).


Technically yes but its theirs unrightfully.

McMaybe wrote:What makes Israel different? I'll tell you what, the vast amount of Muslims in the world, now, i have nothing against Muslims, hell, some of my friends are, but its the Anti-world Muslims that are blowing up school buses, and blowing up day care centers, and malls, etc.. FOR NO REASON.


I fully agree with you on that. I think the Anti-world Muslims as you call them are the ones making most of the trouble. People who have nothing to do with anything are getting killed, and as you said, for no reason.

McMaybe wrote:Israel does not kill random people, check the news: Before Israel attacks they send the signals so locals and pedestrians can leave, they very rarely kill children.. i think this whole thing should just stop the way it is.


True that they send signals and all that, but if the people do leave their homes, and their homes get bombed or whatever, then they will have no place to live anyways.

Btw, I have nothing against Jews, and I do have some Jew friends. Jews are just following the Jewish religion. :y:
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Re: The Israeli Occupation of Palestine

Postby Tash8 » Mar 8th, '08, 08:40

I think religion is stupid.
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Re: The Israeli Occupation of Palestine

Postby Xray » Mar 8th, '08, 09:09

I'M TOO STUPID & SELFISH TO CARE :sweating:
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Re: The Israeli Occupation of Palestine

Postby Tash8 » Mar 11th, '08, 02:42

i'm actually too horny to care not too selfish
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Re: The Israeli Occupation of Palestine

Postby Arabian Shady » Mar 11th, '08, 19:39

, but its the Anti-world Muslims that are blowing up school buses, and blowing up day care centers, and malls, etc.. FOR NO REASON.


lemme make it absolutely clear that ppl who blow up children,kidnapp journalists and threaten them wid accepting islam or kill ppl to extract a ransom........etc :ARE NOT MUSLIMS.
hell us muslims dont accpet them as that,they r fukin animals who with thier selfish acts have just tainted islam as a terrorists religion,
islam has orders(i carefully use that word),by the quran,to respect other ppls religion,honour their beliefs.
you cannot spread a religion by the sword.u have to understand wats the religions back bone,wat is its stand...everything shud be clear before 1 accepts a religion
its like wen u buy a digital camera,u make sure it has gd mega pixels,its branded,gd technology,gd features n then u buy it,to spread islam by force itself does not make sense!.
I live in the emirates(so does bazz) n we have a multicultural society which has ppl of many religions livin together,i celebrate christmas,eid,birth of the prophets... wid every1.


as far as the isarel and palestine issuse is concerened,i think that am agrrement has 2 be reached so that both countries can reach an agreement without the U.S(no hate) fingerin any issues.
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Re: The Israeli Occupation of Palestine

Postby Xray » Mar 11th, '08, 22:47

Arabian Shady wrote:
, but its the Anti-world Muslims that are blowing up school buses, and blowing up day care centers, and malls, etc.. FOR NO REASON.


lemme make it absolutely clear that ppl who blow up children,kidnapp journalists and threaten them wid accepting islam or kill ppl to extract a ransom........etc :ARE NOT MUSLIMS.
hell us muslims dont accpet them as that,they r fukin animals who with thier selfish acts have just tainted islam as a terrorists religion,
islam has orders(i carefully use that word),by the quran,to respect other ppls religion,honour their beliefs.
you cannot spread a religion by the sword.u have to understand wats the religions back bone,wat is its stand...everything shud be clear before 1 accepts a religion
its like wen u buy a digital camera,u make sure it has gd mega pixels,its branded,gd technology,gd features n then u buy it,to spread islam by force itself does not make sense!.
I live in the emirates(so does bazz) n we have a multicultural society which has ppl of many religions livin together,i celebrate christmas,eid,birth of the prophets... wid every1.


as far as the isarel and palestine issuse is concerened,i think that am agrrement has 2 be reached so that both countries can reach an agreement without the U.S(no hate) fingerin any issues.

thats how its done :worship:

props for making it clear about muslims :worship:
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Re: The Israeli Occupation of Palestine

Postby SajN » Mar 12th, '08, 18:34

Xray wrote:
Arabian Shady wrote:
, but its the Anti-world Muslims that are blowing up school buses, and blowing up day care centers, and malls, etc.. FOR NO REASON.


lemme make it absolutely clear that ppl who blow up children,kidnapp journalists and threaten them wid accepting islam or kill ppl to extract a ransom........etc :ARE NOT MUSLIMS.
hell us muslims dont accpet them as that,they r fukin animals who with thier selfish acts have just tainted islam as a terrorists religion,
islam has orders(i carefully use that word),by the quran,to respect other ppls religion,honour their beliefs.
you cannot spread a religion by the sword.u have to understand wats the religions back bone,wat is its stand...everything shud be clear before 1 accepts a religion
its like wen u buy a digital camera,u make sure it has gd mega pixels,its branded,gd technology,gd features n then u buy it,to spread islam by force itself does not make sense!.
I live in the emirates(so does bazz) n we have a multicultural society which has ppl of many religions livin together,i celebrate christmas,eid,birth of the prophets... wid every1.


as far as the isarel and palestine issuse is concerened,i think that am agrrement has 2 be reached so that both countries can reach an agreement without the U.S(no hate) fingerin any issues.

thats how its done :worship:

props for making it clear about muslims :worship:

Thanks for that :worship:


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Sorry 'bout that. I respect everyone, except for those "World-Hating Muslims" :n:
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Re: The Israeli Occupation of Palestine

Postby Xray » Mar 13th, '08, 07:49

McMaybe wrote:^^
Yeah i was referring to a certain group of Muslims (World Hating Muslims) that don't follow the traditional belief, and instead, follow the "War" half of the religion, and use it as an excuse, almost to justify killings, etc.

those fagots should be ashamed to even call them selves Muslims..

motherfuckers make my days misery from there stupid actions :shakehead:
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