The Biggie And Pac Death

[Xray]

I know this thread has been made before probably, but it's only natural that we debate this again.

Whats your thoughts on the killings? Was Biggie responsible for Pacs death? Or were the Southside Compton Crips responsible for both deaths? Cause Bad Boy hadn't payed them for some security shit in the west coast or something like that or do you think Suge Knight was behind all of this.

Think about it, Suge killing both pac and big, and create that whole west vs east war, making sales of all of this. There's a book called LAbyrinth, regarding the murders of Wallace and Tupac Shakur. And there's also a Documentary called Biggie and Tupac about the same thing, from the evidence found in that book.

So what's your thoughts on all of this?

[James R.]

Well first off Pac aint dead

Naw but for real this is what I think:

Suge Knight killed Pac because he owed him millions of dollars for tons of shit. I've always believed that and I always always will. I am going to check out the book and documentary you mentioned though.

Biggie, man I dunno, that whole thing was so fuckin shady I just can't even begin to make a call. All I know is the guy that got put away for it either didn't do it or didn't do it alone.

Word

[DrRapid]

I think Pac's death is involved either with Suge Knight owing him lots of money plus with all the material 2Pac had made he's worth dead more than alive and nothing is owed back and you get lots of money out of it (death brings in more sales). The other was the problems with the Crips, when he beat up Orlando Anderson they could of gone after him for revenge but it's less believable.

I think Biggie's death is to do with some L.A loonies who are envious of Biggie getting success when their man 2Pac died so it seems fair that Biggie gets to die. Suge Knight could be involved with this.

[mcZu]

Don Kilimunati; seven day theory

Nahh; but for real, Tupac's death was shady as fuck. First of all the way he got shot was on some JFK shit, and his autopsy report was vague as a smoky hell. His body missed some tattoo's, kinda makes you think he's still alive and chillin' in cuba

As for Biggie; dunno, never really checked that out.

[Sleepy]

Well first off Pac aint dead

Naw but for real this is what I think:

Suge Knight killed Pac because he owed him millions of dollars for tons of shit. I've always believed that and I always always will. I am going to check out the book and documentary you mentioned though.

Biggie, man I dunno, that whole thing was so fuckin shady I just can't even begin to make a call. All I know is the guy that got put away for it either didn't do it or didn't do it alone.

Word

check out this book too,good read



i think suge killed pac aswell
pac was supposedly leaving the rap game for an acting career and id have imagined taht would piss suge off hugely after all suge had done for him i.e posting his bail,giving him the contract and making him rich as fuck
with dre already after dropping off,that would have destroyed death row

as for biggies murder,i think the west coasters retaliated after pacs murder thinking it was Bad boy that ordered the hit

heres another book by cathy scott

[Xray]

Don Kilimunati; seven day theory

Nahh; but for real, Tupac's death was shady as fuck. First of all the way he got shot was on some JFK shit, and his autopsy report was vague as a smoky hell. His body missed some tattoo's, kinda makes you think he's still alive and chillin' in cuba

As for Biggie; dunno, never really checked that out.

Word that's some interesting shit. Suge Knight is definitely the man behind all off this.

Im gonna check out those books thanks.

[<Stiiccy>]

the police killed them

[DrRapid]

the police killed them

I'm gonna relate to that one...The investigation of 2Pac's death was not done properly, he was cremated to soon to do a fullfilled autopsy. The evidence which was left like where he was shot was ruined immediately when they let normal traffic pass by there. I just think the government in general did not care.

In connection to this there's some crazy ass theory which I don't necessarily believe but it's quite interesting. It's about the Illuminati. A group of very high-powered people who pretty much do whatever they want. Assassiante the president if they feel like it but this group is very secret and unknown. They can make the police not investigate 2Pac's murder cause of their power. Why? Well 2Pac's album name and artist name for his last album is:

Makaveli The Don Killuminati....

The Don = The Leader
Killuminati = can be broken down to The Killers Of The Illuminati

So it can mean: Tupac, the leader of the killers of the Illuminati.

The Illuminati might have not liked this since they want to keep quiet and not be known too well but cause of their power they could get rid of 2Pac so he can't do anything about it.

There's more to this but it's one crazy ass theory which I find interesting. Go to the 2Pacworld site which contains quite a lot of information about this if you're interested at all.


Then Biggie's death I still think it's some sort of act of revenge by Westcoasters or Suge's entourage...

[mcZu]

^I so love that theory; though there aint no evidence to proof shit. Though I really think Tupac staged his own death; either he knew he was gonna be assassined and he played along while surviving, or he staged the whole fucking thing. Add the hidden messages in his songs (Itried them myself; and it does sound like he is saying ''I'm alive''...), the new kicks he was wearing in a videoclip after his death (that was shot before he died) and he has way to fucking much material recorded; I can't believe he recorded that all for he died The whole Makaveli -Machiavelli- thing is strange aswell, Machiavelli said that the best way to trick your enemies, is too disappear by making them believe your dead. There is some strange numerology involved aswell -I'm not gonna explain that, I need to do some research to do that- that states when Tupac is gonna come ''back'' (Some shit with 7's and some track numbers).
Anyways; there are too fucking much theories build around these ''strange'' facts, though nothing can be proved. I think he didn't die at all, but that's just 'cause I'm too sceptical.

[Xray]

^I so love that theory; though there aint no evidence to proof shit. Though I really think Tupac staged his own death; either he knew he was gonna be assassined and he played along while surviving, or he staged the whole fucking thing. Add the hidden messages in his songs (Itried them myself; and it does sound like he is saying ''I'm alive''...), the new kicks he was wearing in a videoclip after his death (that was shot before he died) and he has way to fucking much material recorded; I can't believe he recorded that all for he died The whole Makaveli -Machiavelli- thing is strange aswell, Machiavelli said that the best way to trick your enemies, is too disappear by making them believe your dead. There is some strange numerology involved aswell -I'm not gonna explain that, I need to do some research to do that- that states when Tupac is gonna come ''back'' (Some shit with 7's and some track numbers).
Anyways; there are too fucking much theories build around these ''strange'' facts, though nothing can be proved. I think he didn't die at all, but that's just 'cause I'm too sceptical.

That's some interesting shit. Where'd you hear about this?

[DrRapid]

Yeah the number 7 thing I find amusing but a bit silly as well. What I do find creepy is the message right at the beginning of Bomb First (My Second Reply) you can hear what's meant to be Yaki Kadafi (I think if I remember right) saying something like "Suge shot me". I forgot exactly what it was but I find that very interesting and I'm guessing I will never know the answer to it...

[Ella]

yeh i read all these theories on a website & listened to all those subliminals but the person who posted that shit was also writing the dumbest shit i ever hearddd so w/e just blame Suge LOL

if Pac was alive i doubt he would be able to hide from civilisation for this long & get away with faking his own death.. its impossible he's known all over the world..

[Almostlity]

Listen 2pac ft. Obie Trice - Hennessey, how come pac ''can'' say o.trice's name in that song?. Trice wasnt known at '96?

[Ella]

Listen 2pac ft. Obie Trice - Hennessey, how come pac ''can'' say o.trice's name in that song?. Trice wasnt known at '96?

im pretty sure Em did that.. he did produce the album & Obie was on Shady Records

[DrRapid]

Listen 2pac ft. Obie Trice - Hennessey, how come pac ''can'' say o.trice's name in that song?. Trice wasnt known at '96?

I do have to say you're being a bit silly there. It's obviously Eminem's production. He takes words from songs or interviews and puts them together to make the word. He made 2Pac say G-unit. Come on!

Btw, some things are done by the labels so to make people get hyped thinking that he's alive and shit, it's just a publicity stunt.