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Re: Swine Flu Shwine Flu, give me some money!

Postby JMG » May 6th, '09, 04:43

something does smell fishy i will say that.
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Re: Swine Flu Shwine Flu, give me some money!

Postby <Stiiccy> » May 6th, '09, 05:00

fuck bacon, slaughter the fuckin pigs

because honestly...what the fuck does a pig do thats worth a shit?
they roll around in there own shit!!!

fuck a pig...just hunt em all down and kill em
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Re: Swine Flu Shwine Flu, give me some money!

Postby Sophie » May 6th, '09, 10:24

<Stiiccy> wrote:fuck bacon, slaughter the fuckin pigs

because honestly...what the fuck does a pig do thats worth a shit?
they roll around in there own shit!!!

fuck a pig...just hunt em all down and kill em

Then we'd have no bacon sandwiches :(
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Re: Swine Flu Shwine Flu, give me some money!

Postby Tornado » May 6th, '09, 13:13

I Don't get the talk either, especially when i sneeze, people move away, it's just hayfever at the wrong time
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Re: Swine Flu Shwine Flu, give me some money!

Postby mcZu » May 6th, '09, 13:55

You took the words right out of my mouth, this whole 'H1N1(N1=None) virus' is bs. Fear is always an excellent tool to use...
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Postby Xray » May 6th, '09, 15:31

Once again, America fucking the world up for a matter of time all over again. Does anybody know how exactly did that pig get infected with a virus? Perhaps USA were trying out new weapons, and there neighbors caught the side effects? nah Im fucking around. But yeah its a very sketchy subject.
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Re: Swine Flu Shwine Flu, give me some money!

Postby Sophie » May 6th, '09, 15:47

Btw, people who are saying it originated in America and whatnot, untrue, it was actually from Spain in 1918 (if I remember correctly) so really, Spain are to blame :y: :whistle:
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Re: Swine Flu Shwine Flu, give me some money!

Postby Xray » May 6th, '09, 15:56

Sophie wrote:Btw, people who are saying it originated in America and whatnot, untrue, it was actually from Spain in 1918 (if I remember reading wikipedia correctly) so really, Spain are to blame :y: :whistle:


But they didn't bring it up all over again. So America is still to blame for this one. :smoking:
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Re: Swine Flu Shwine Flu, give me some money!

Postby ThomasAguanis » May 6th, '09, 16:36

the Spanish flu pandemic in 1918 was a different strain of the virus today. Swine flu is like bird flu, pig flu, and the human flu put together. Here's an interesting article to go along with this topic:

SWINE FLU:
PIG IN A POKE

By Jon Rappoport
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April 27, 2009. Everybody wants to jump on a bandwagon when “a new disease” comes along.

There are many possible bandwagons:

THIS COULD BE THE MOTHER ALL PANDEMICS.

THE MEDICAL AUTHORITIES KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY’RE DOING, AND WE MUST FOLLOW THEIR DIRECTIONS.

REMAIN CALM.

DON’T TRAVEL TO MEXICO.

IT’S A TERRORIST ATTACK.

IT’S THE PRELUDE TO A TERRORIST ATTACK.

A GERM ESCAPED FROM A BIO-WARFARE FACILITY.

QUARANTINE YOUR CHILDREN.

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS THE CAUSE OF IT ALL.

A PIG DID IT.

A BIRD DID IT.

“THEY” PUT THE SWINE FLU GERM INTO A VACCINE.

THIS IS GOD TAKING REVENGE FOR PEOPLE EATING PORK.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LET PEOPLE TRAVEL ALL OVER THE WORLD. GROUND ALL PLANES.

THIS IS MOTHER NATURE STRIKING BACK AT TECHNOLOGY.

NOSTRADAMUS PREDICTED THIS.

I could go on.

As some of you know, I’ve been through these “pandemics” before. I’ve analyzed the medical reasoning from a number of different perspectives. I’ve pointed out the gaping holes in the official media-driven scenarios.

I no longer have the interest in unearthing every single mistake and stupidity and prejudice and lie. But I will cover the main issues one more time.

First of all, people die all the time all over the world. That some of them exhibit what could be called common flu symptoms DOES NOT mean we have a new disease. People dying in Mexico is something that happens every day of every year. On any given day, I could collect reports of sickness and death in Mexico (with flu symptoms) and bundle them up and claim they’re evidence of something new and sinister, and I would be wrong.

Second, you have to examine HOW the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) are TESTING TO FIND THIS SWINE FLU ILLNESS. On what basis are they saying there IS a new human disease? On what basis are they saying people have this new disease?

Is the test any good?

You would think lots of reporters are looking into this, but you would be wrong.

If I say the sky is falling, people would ask me for evidence. I should be able to present that evidence. If I can’t, or if my evidence is flimsy and shoddy, then that’s the end of that.

In the case of Swine Flu or any so-called new disease, the evidence IS THE TEST.

So let’s look at it. The test is done with a swab from the throat or nose. That material is then analyzed with very sophisticated methods. The centerpiece of the method is the PCR. It is a test in which VERY tiny bits of genetic substance are amplified, blown up tremendously, in order to be able to see what is there.

What IS there? Fragments of a pig virus? Fragments of a bird virus? Fragments of more common human flu viruses? That’s what the CDC and WHO are telling us. All of the above.

Does this mean all these blown-up fragments are part of a SINGLE VIRUS, A COMPLETE VIRUS? Does this mean these fragments are all locked together?

NO.

The test result is more like this: WE LOOKED THROUGH THE GARBAGE BIN AND WE CAME UP WITH ALL SORTS OF PIECES OF STUFF. AND WE BELIEVE WE CAN INFER WHAT THESE PIECES ONCE BELONGED TO. BUT EVEN IF WE CAN, WE CAN’T SAY THE PIECES WERE ONCE ALL PART OF A SINGLE THING.

TO SAY YOU HAVE A SINGLE THING, YOU MUST BE ABLE TO FIND THAT SINGLE THING.

In the case of what the CDC is calling Human Swine Flu, THEY MUST BE ABLE TO PRODUCE, FOR INSPECTION AND CONFIRMATION, the whole virus. The whole thing. The one thing. The Swine-Bird-Human combo virus, in pristine form, taken from the swab of a human patient.

Where is it?

Who has it?

How many independent labs have confirmed that’s what it is?

I see NO evidence.

And that’s just the beginning of the trouble.

Because, even if researchers could produce that pristine combo virus in complete structure and form, taken from the body of a human patient, they are not saying there are HUGE NUMBERS OF THESE VIRUSES in a given patient’s body. And guess what? In order to claim a person has a disease, you have to ID GIGANTIC NUMBERS OF A GIVEN GERM AT WORK IN THE BODY, DOING THEIR BUSINESS. Otherwise, you have NOTHING.

As in: NOTHING.

One or two copies of germs of a particular type aren’t going to affect the body.

In fact, whenever you hear about the PCR test being used in this way, it’s usually a giveaway, a major clue. They’re using this test, which blows up and amplifies tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny amounts of material, to the point where they can see something, BECAUSE THEY CAN’T ACTUALLY FIND WHOLE GERMS. THEY CAN’T.

Now, if you take what I’ve stated in this article, and do a little thinking of your own, you’ll form your own ideas of what is really happening and not happening in this new “horrible threat.”

And by the way, what happened to that other pandemic that was going to spread around the world and decimate populations a few years back. Remember? Planes grounded? Cities declared off bounds for tourists?

SARS?

Remember?

The sky fell and the world is still here.

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Re: Swine Flu Shwine Flu, give me some money!

Postby Sophie » May 6th, '09, 16:39

@ Xray - Actually didn't wikipedia, was on tv on an english show called 'This morning'...so :y:
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Re: Swine Flu Shwine Flu, give me some money!

Postby DrRapid » May 6th, '09, 18:05

Sophie wrote:Btw, people who are saying it originated in America and whatnot, untrue, it was actually from Spain in 1918 (if I remember correctly) so really, Spain are to blame :y: :whistle:

:angry: :( :'( But whaaa blame us? We're just a bunch of people doing their thang...

Yeha I read about the Spanish flu in 1918 but it hasn't started all over again from here in Spain as Xray said.
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Re: Swine Flu Shwine Flu, give me some money!

Postby Sophie » May 6th, '09, 18:26

^^ Lol, I was kidding. Besides, I thought it was Mexico and not America anyway? :unsure:
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Re: Swine Flu Shwine Flu, give me some money!

Postby DrRapid » May 6th, '09, 18:28

Sophie wrote:^^ Lol, I was kidding. Besides, I thought it was Mexico and not America anyway? :unsure:

I know I know you were kidding :p
It did actually start off in Mexico...
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Re: Swine Flu Shwine Flu, give me some money!

Postby James R. » May 7th, '09, 01:22

FUCK SWINE FLU!

These fuckin Mexican viruses stealing work from the real, hard-working, American viruses.
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Re: Swine Flu Shwine Flu, give me some money!

Postby Xray » May 7th, '09, 13:24

Sophie wrote:^^ Lol, I was kidding. Besides, I thought it was Mexico and not America anyway? :unsure:

And wheres Mexico located at? America. :)
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