Guantanamo Bay

[dR3]

What are your opinions on this?

I think it's inhumane what they do to the people there, even though they are dangerous. Just lock them up in a max security prison.
And no laws? Fuck that.

[dR3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo ... ntion_camp

[gvdz]

the most people who are locked there deserved it.
so i dont care

[Dark Blue]

the most people who are locked there deserved it.
so i dont care

but some people there don't deserve it

just watch The Road to Guantanamo its a pretty good movie

[WakeUpShow]

i bet you like the security it provides you.

[Emadyville]

They play eminem down there, how bad can they seriously be getting treated

[mrjizzbomber]

Uhhhh, the idea isn't to torture the people there just for the sake of torturing them. The theory is that people who are captured have valuable information which can be used by the US to prevent future terrorist attacks / protect our troops from ambushes / enhance our intelligence in overseas operations / etc. etc. etc.

Clearly, a captured enemy solider isn't going to just hand over this valuable information. "Oh! I'm captured! Heres the location of our training facilities! And here is where we store dangerous bomb making chemicals! And this is when we plan on using poison gas in an ambush of your troops!".

Many combatant soldiers are very dedicated to their cause. They are also fueled by religious dogma and government propaganda. So how do you get the information out of them?

You capture them, and throw them into a horrid, horrid detention facility. You torture them. You waterboard them. You twist their arm and pull their hair until they talk. The theory is, if you can violate the rights of one person to save the lives of who-knows-how-many, it is ethically our responsibility to do so. And it doesn't hurt that those who are captured are the "enemy".

A good parallel is the nuclear bombing of Japan in WW2. We said, hey - the Japanese won't back down (yes, I know, I'm too silly). They are trained to fight until they die, no matter what. If we continue with traditional warfare, the number of deaths, ON BOTH SIDES, will be enormous. So, it is ethically responsible to use this new technology (A-bomb) and cripple them... and hey - that strategy worked.

The real question with G-bay and torture is - how much is too much? If they have valuable information, how far can we go? Its really a difficult question, and it would be nice to say 'just put them in jail for life, or execute them, torture is wrong', but there ARE R E A L benefits to torture. We save lives, we protect the innocent. Its a hard question.

That said, I really don't know. Its one of those questions I just can't answer...