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Postby AspirinE » Feb 4th, '06, 14:49

I know i was just saying it like people are portrayed on tv wich we have to stop watching... some of the people on this forum dont know were russia is situatedon the map.




I've to the turkey side of cyprus, ive been to ejept.
Ive been to US.. people are people they are the same everywere.
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Postby Fi.J. » Feb 4th, '06, 16:11

it was a joke,ok,but there was no need to do it,I mean,everyone wants respect,so why should we start provokin even more rivality?
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Postby AspirinE » Feb 4th, '06, 21:53

Alyssa wrote:
AspirinE wrote:... some of the people on this forum dont know were russia is situatedon the map.


:tounge2: i told u that in confidence :'( :giggle:



I know its not only u having problems with it.


U exposed urself lmao
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Postby AspirinE » Feb 4th, '06, 21:59

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That big yellow part - thats russia :)
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Postby AspirinE » Feb 4th, '06, 22:07

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By the way heres a religious map.



ITs obvious how the white man hates everything that doent relate to him...
Most hated countries a are ones that aare not of christianity.
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Postby AspirinE » Feb 4th, '06, 22:11

no they are of different religion ( different god or worship form )
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Postby AspirinE » Feb 4th, '06, 22:18

Angie wrote:
AspirinE wrote:no they are of different religion ( different god or worship form )



:unsure: ummm :-k okay... are u a communist? u dont have 2 answer that lol i was jw :happy:


Russians arent comunists ever since 1991

But i for one support a socialistic regime, if its without corruption.
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Postby the_cat_in_the_hat » Feb 4th, '06, 22:29

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Postby Prodeo » Feb 5th, '06, 13:23

AspirinE wrote:I know i was just saying it like people are portrayed on tv wich we have to stop watching... some of the people on this forum dont know were russia is situatedon the map.


how can you not know where russia is situated???
It's the biggest country in the world, i mean you can't miss it.
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Postby Prodeo » Feb 5th, '06, 13:24

Angie wrote:


okay the first one was funny but not like 2 laugh at ppl faces about it.. [-X that just RUDE!


humor isn't universal, it's personal. Some ppl find that 2nd picture funny (not me)
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Postby Fi.J. » Feb 5th, '06, 15:23



the 2nd one wasn't really funny..kinda racist..
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Postby Fi.J. » Feb 5th, '06, 15:25

Alyssa wrote:ohhhh :) i thought that whole huge part was the ussr n russia was sumwhere in it :flower:


lol..russia was a part of urss,which consisted also of other lands close to russia..
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Postby Curious » Feb 5th, '06, 19:52

misa wrote:so the newspaper has a freedom of speech to insult whoever they want but the muslims cant have a freedom of speech to express thier angriness towards such thing both r freedom of speech , the one who went far is the news paper not the protesters they have every right to be angry n express thier disapproval and burning as many flags as they want , they already linked us as terrorists , viloence ppl , iam not sayin that i agree with { u will payt back lts just go blow thier country} but i can pretty much understand y they would say that they r angry n they should be

n not all r golin down the streets sayin u will pay back or whatever some r askin for just not dealing with the country n stop buyin its products


okay since I'm actually from the country where this whole situation originated (Denmark) I've gotta comment on this.

In our country there's freedom of speech - it's not so in many other countries around the world, but it is so in our country, and therefore a newspaper can, in principle, publish what they want. The Danish government cannot prevent a Danish newspaper from publishing articles or charicatures unless the newspaper breaks the law, which it hasn't in this case. Therefore the Danish government cannot apologise or jail the publishers or anything - the Danish government had nothing to do with these drawings, and neither had any manufacturers of Danish Dairy products or all other products or the majority of the Danish public for that matter, the decision to publish these cartoons is solely the responsibility of the editors on the newspaper. So if u wanna be angry with anyone for publishing these charicatures fine, be angry with the editors, but don't blame the rest of the Danish population cause we had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Personally I think it was a huge mistake and very disrespectful to publish these pictures, especially the one showing Muhammed with a bomb in his turban - with freedom of speech also comes responsibility, and there was absolutely no reason why such cartoons should be published. Respect goes both ways n we cannot expect other ppl to respect our opinions unless we respect theirs.

BUT burning down another nation's embassies n threatening the lives of its citizens has nothing to do with freedom of speech and cannot be justified as mere anger, just as it would have been completely insane of me to boycot my local muslim pizza maker or grocery store after 9/11 - these ppl had nothing to do with Osama bin Laden's terrorist attacks, just as I or my government have nothing to do with the drawings in the Danish newspaper n I think things have gotten completely out of hand when ppl start threatening an entire nation because of a newspaper article.

i understand why many muslims are angry n it's okay to protest n demonstrate, but direct ur anger at the right ppl if u want to earn respect n understanding - most Danish citizens were actually against the publishing of these drawings, but with the burning down of embassies n corporeal attacks on Danish employees n aid workers understanding is turning into disbelief n outright anger - the muslims have blown things out of proportion in this case.

n i also gotta say that although i don't think the newspaper should've published the cartoons, i also think that they've raised an important topic of discussion, namely censorship vs freedom of speech as a basic value in society n that's an important issue to raise in our country where we're trying hard to integrate a growing muslim community that does need to adapt to living life in a western country with different norms n values than they're used to
the core here is that the newspaper didn't publish the drawings to insult the entire muslim community, they published them to raise an issue in Danish society n they're allowed to do that - personally i just think they should've done it in another way
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Postby misa » Feb 5th, '06, 20:28

But to me the govermrnt is the one who allowed it in the first place , with their laws or w/e , freedom of speech shouldnt be used as a tool to insult religions , u could say ur opinion in a way which won't insult others , i am not balming the Danish population , it will be stupid to ,

i said iam not with " u will pay back thing " i just said that i can understand y they will say n think like that , they are angry n feel insulted ,

iam with the boycott thing myself n supporting it , what they did was completly racist and disrespectful , the whole world did see it ,so how can I as a one person show my disapproval !! by buying the country's products !!! i see it like that boycotting the Danish products just shows in a peaceful way that we r angry , insulted and would like some respect
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Postby chronic » Feb 5th, '06, 20:49

..im musilm....and i think that u cant laugh with otherz religuon...the liberty of some1 stops were tha liberty of some1 begins...atleast in canada theres no fight and shit alike....we're very pacific :shifty: and btw it started in canada....i dont think its a reason to fight like that o sumthin else but its outrageous.....just....anyway i take it easy...my pops dont but i do.. :smoking:
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