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Do you want Grime as a sub section?

Yes
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32%
No
9
47%
I don't know what Grime is, but why not?
3
16%
Don't know..
1
5%
 
Total votes : 19

Regarding the Hip Hop Domain

Postby mcZu » Nov 19th, '10, 23:44

Vote.

Here is a little more insight if you've never heard of Grime..
Grime is typified by complex 2-step breakbeats, generally around 140 beats per minute and constructed from "different" sounds. Stylistically, grime takes from many genres including UK Garage, dancehall and hip hop. The lyrics and music combine futuristic electronic elements and dark, guttural bass lines.

Grime has developed a fierce sound by "distilling" rhythms to a minimal style resulting in a choppy, off-centre sound. Whereas hip hop is inherently dance music, the writer argues that "grime sounds as if it had been made for a boxing gym, one where the fighters have a lot of punching to do but not much room to move." Grime has maintained a style distinct from American hip hop, with clear Jamaican and Caribbean influences. Grime is "an amalgamation of UK Garage with a bit of drum'n'bass, a splash of punk and a touch of hip-hop thrown in for good measure."
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Re: Regarding the Hip Hop Domain

Postby classthe_king » Nov 19th, '10, 23:45

What's Grime
You think your personal attacks make up for what you lack?
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Re: Regarding the Hip Hop Domain

Postby DƎRDYPK » Nov 19th, '10, 23:46

classthe_king wrote:What's Grime


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go for it Zu :y: :8)
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Re: Regarding the Hip Hop Domain

Postby Bistnal » Nov 19th, '10, 23:57

Personally don't think so. Think it'll be really dead overall. Aside from the small handful of people that post the occasional grime artist/song/video, I personally haven't noticed any real demand or forum interest in grime so I think it'd be pointless to make a whole subsection for it.
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Re: Regarding the Hip Hop Domain

Postby One Mic » Nov 20th, '10, 00:45

Bistnal wrote:Personally don't think so. Think it'll be really dead overall. Aside from the small handful of people that post the occasional grime artist/song/video, I personally haven't noticed any real demand or forum interest in grime so I think it'd be pointless to make a whole subsection for it.


This.
(and I'm a fan of grime)

The lines are so blurred into what constitutes 'grime' and what constitutes 'UK Hip Hop' it's not worth it. Plus you've got the likes of Giggs, Fix Dot'm, Benny Banks, Gunna Dee who are amongst this new wave of what they call "road rap".And for casual people who are Americans, Europeans, or other (or even some British people) I doubt they could even tell the difference. "it all sounds the same" is a common quote that I often see.

Then there are ex-grime mc's who have turned commercial, they have started to venture into pop music / electropop whatever you wanna call it. People like Tinchy Stryder, Tinie Tempah, Dizzee Rascal etc - thats far from grime, and I wouldn't exactly call most of their new commercial tracks hip-hop either lol.

In addition to this you've got guys like P-Money (J.Cole has said he wants to collab with P-Money btw after checking him out on YouTube) but yeah...guys like P-Money who IS a grime mc....yet often ventures into the Dubstep market and makes dubstep sing-a-longs like this

P-Money - Slang Like This - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fIrIg8pSV4
^ not hip-hop / not grime

It's getting increasingly difficult to categorise things these days as far as UK Rappers are concerned. Especially today in 2010, grime's "golden era" has definitely passed. Not many of the top guys really make it anymore, or are not really active.

Maybe the "UK Hip Hop" could be revamped seeing as it's not exactly the most active forum, and it could be changed to "The UK Scene" (or something a lot better) and in the description it could state this is the place for all discussion, debate, etc on.... all UK Rap music - and that could include everything. UK Rap / UK Hip-Hop / Grime etc etc
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Re: Regarding the Hip Hop Domain

Postby dR3 » Nov 20th, '10, 00:46

A sticky thread in the main section would be better, imo.
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Re: Regarding the Hip Hop Domain

Postby mcZu » Nov 20th, '10, 00:52

One Mic wrote:Maybe the "UK Hip Hop" could be revamped seeing as it's not exactly the most active forum, and it could be changed to "The UK Scene" (or something a lot better) and in the description it could state this is the place for all discussion, debate, etc on.... all UK Rap music - and that could include everything. UK Rap / UK Hip-Hop / Grime etc etc

I've actually asked Emady to delete all sub-sections in the Hip Hop Domain, 'cause non of them are active. Plus Hip Hop is Hip Hop, whether it's UK Hip Hop, international Hip Hop, or underground Hip Hop. However, Grime is something different. But you're probably right. That's the reason I made a poll, because I wanted to see if there's a demand or not for such a sub-section.
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Re: Regarding the Hip Hop Domain

Postby One Mic » Nov 20th, '10, 01:05

mcZu wrote:I've actually asked Emady to delete all sub-sections in the Hip Hop Domain, 'cause non of them are active. Plus Hip Hop is Hip Hop, whether it's UK Hip Hop, international Hip Hop, or underground Hip Hop. However, Grime is something different. But you're probably right. That's the reason I made a poll, because I wanted to see if there's a demand or not for such a sub-section.


Yeah you're spot on with this. I would welcome a grime sub-section if the "UK Hip Hop" one was removed, but initially I thought you meant add a grime sub-section IN ADDITION to the already made UK Hip Hop one.

I generally hate sub-sections anyway (although that is a whole different discussion).

I mean in the 'Hip Hop Domain' forum alone we've got...

Kickin' It Oldschool

International Hip Hop

Underground

^ All 3 of those are unnecessary. It just dilutes discussion in the main Hip Hop Domain forum and I think if those 3 were removed, it would make the Hip Hop Domain a much better, and much more active place.

We don't exactly have an uncontrollable amount of members / posts, so yeah it's just not needed IMO
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Re: Regarding the Hip Hop Domain

Postby Xray » Nov 20th, '10, 04:38

It should be just Hip Hop Domain with NO sub forums. Most of the shit that gets posted there is underground, and no one cares to post it in underground most of the time. Fuck a sub forum, it's all Hip Hop ain't it? Idk I just think sub forums are pointless and a waste of click.
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Re: Regarding the Hip Hop Domain

Postby Robbie G » Nov 20th, '10, 05:18

Xray wrote:It should be just Hip Hop Domain with NO sub forums. Most of the shit that gets posted there is underground, and no one cares to post it in underground most of the time. Fuck a sub forum, it's all Hip Hop ain't it? Idk I just think sub forums are pointless and a waste of click.


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Re: Regarding the Hip Hop Domain

Postby Emadyville » Nov 20th, '10, 05:35

the sub sections will be removed very shortly everyone :y:
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Re: Regarding the Hip Hop Domain

Postby Xray » Nov 20th, '10, 06:49

Who da man? You are the man Emady. :worship:
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Re: Regarding the Hip Hop Domain

Postby Tornado » Nov 22nd, '10, 01:20

Xray wrote:It should be just Hip Hop Domain with NO sub forums. Most of the shit that gets posted there is underground, and no one cares to post it in underground most of the time. Fuck a sub forum, it's all Hip Hop ain't it? Idk I just think sub forums are pointless and a waste of click.


This, and what One Mic said generally
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