Top 10 Hip Hop ARTISTS (skills don't count)

[dead prez]

I like a lot of Eminem songs, but as albums there always seems to be a few glaring flaws that hold them back for me.

That's always the problem for me and mmlp is subject to that as well even though it was the closest Eminem ever got to a perfect album. Amityville, Under The Influence and Kim are all prty bad tracks that I can't enjoy at all anymore while Compton is the only song like that from GKMC. Eminem's rapping is probably the best ever on that album but I think Kendrick's a better lyricist. Eminem's humor on that album has also gotten really old to me while Kendrick's tackling more important issues but doing it in a way where most listeners don't even realize it (like Eminem). I think MMLP is still a 9 but GKMC is just more complete and consistently high.

rank these in terms of what you actually prefer but not by decibels

Below the heavens, GKMC, TBA, Game Theory (have a feeling GT's gonna be last but whatev)

[dead prez]

oh and yeah Kendrick's album does have a good chance of aging not that well if high concept albums become the norm in the next few years

[classthe_king]

The best part is no one could argue against it, or any of our opinions for that matter, so you just resort to mocking us in what you think is funny but really is incredibly cringe-worthy. Like I can legitimately see see you guys sitting at your computers snickering to yourself because you think you're "getting" us. How about your actually back up your opinions and post something with some actual substance and have a discussion instead of the pointless bullshit that 99% of this forum contains. This forum has become a cesspool of ignorance and any posts that actually contribute to a discussion get shot down (everyone is allowed to have their opinions why don't you leave us alone!!!!!!!!)

You know, I was actually thinking about posting something similar as a response. Why I decided not to is my decision.

The thing is this, you are perfectly right when it comes to what you said, or for that matter what is being said in this thread about albums etc.. Everything at the end of the day, or most of it is an opinion and it comes down to what you prefer/think. Nobody can argue with you about thinking that GKMC is better than any Em album. That's your right to think that.

But why should I, who doesn't care about proving you wrong or any similar shit for that matter, try to argue with you about GKMC being better than lets say MMLP or any album from him when you only said that to provoke and be arogant.

I'm not gonna argue with your opinion, and nobody should. I mean, do I hate on you for liking sadistik ? Am I writing a paragraph on him to show you that he's wack (which I don't think he is, but I'm using this as an example). I would probably fall asleep while listening to him so I can make out his flaws before I could even click submit on my post. ..... see, this is the shit you would have said to make a rapper look bad so you could make fun of a person liking that certain artist.

You've always been like that. Don't know if you realize it or not. That's why I don't think anybody needs to prove you anything or have a discussion with you when it will come down to music being subjective and all that shit and/or you being ignorant towards somebodies opinion

If you're going to address something I've said then do it in a thought out and educated post or don't do it at all. I don't give a shit if someone wants to talk to me at all but to just avoid the matter and hand and post nonsense just makes you look dumb.

[Notalius]

this the shit I meant ~

[King Lance]

but SSLP is Em's best album :/. Seriously no album encapsulates the 90s like it, I don't mean 90s hip hop. But like it's aesthetic just gives me Ren & Stimpy Vibes, MTV, Grunge, and like Blink 182ish bands. Something about it, it's really atmospheric.

I just don't think that SSLP has aged very well, which is probably why it feels like a piece of the 90s still.

I'm pretty sure that one of the reasons people think this album hasn't aged well is because eminem hasn't influenced a lot of artists. Those who try to rap like him can't even blow up (Hopsin, Earl,...)
Outkast's albums, Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt and all that shit still sound dope as fuck because you hear a lot of them in Today's artists...

A lot of rappers from New York are trying to sond like jay-z, you can hear Outkast in Kendrick's music, you can hear kanye west in J. Cole or Drake's music, YG's new album is heavily influenced by Doggystyle/Chronic... it's sad but very few rappers are trying to imitate his sound/music

[classthe_king]

I like a lot of Eminem songs, but as albums there always seems to be a few glaring flaws that hold them back for me.

That's always the problem for me and mmlp is subject to that as well even though it was the closest Eminem ever got to a perfect album. Amityville, Under The Influence and Kim are all prty bad tracks that I can't enjoy at all anymore while Compton is the only song like that from GKMC. Eminem's rapping is probably the best ever on that album but I think Kendrick's a better lyricist. Eminem's humor on that album has also gotten really old to me while Kendrick's tackling more important issues but doing it in a way where most listeners don't even realize it (like Eminem). I think MMLP is still a 9 but GKMC is just more complete and consistently high.

Real is pretty shitty "m8". Also, why don't you like Kim?

Because it's not even close to being enjoyable and is just eminem screaming and killing his wife for 6 minutes. It's good for 1 listen and that's about it.

I think that it is hard to compare though. Eminem's humor on it might be old to you now, but it's a 14 year old album. There's been a lot more time for references/jokes on MMLP to become irrelevant or stale. It would be interesting to see how Kendrick's album ages in comparison, imo.

I think it has less to do with mmlp being older and more to do with me being older. Eminem makes music for teenagers and I'm not trying to seem like I'm too mature or good for him but that's really how I see it.





Below the heavens > GKMC > TBA > Game Theory

[dead prez]

I'm pretty sure that one of the reasons people think this album hasn't aged well is because eminem hasn't influenced a lot of artists. Those who try to rap like him can't even blow up (Hopsin, Earl,...)
Outkast's albums, Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt and all that shit still sound dope as fuck because you hear a lot of them in Today's artists...

A lot of rappers from New York are trying to sond like jay-z, you can hear Outkast in Kendrick's music, you can hear kanye west in J. Cole or Drake's music, YG's new album is heavily influenced by Doggystyle/Chronic... it's sad but very few rappers are trying to imitate his sound/music

If anything would that make it sound more unique and aged better since no one can properly duplicate it

[PAINKILLƎR]

KIm is great. Theatrical, raw, unfiltered track. Replay value is pretty low but still amazing.

[dead prez]

most storytelling songs have low replay value for me on avg

[CanadaPure]

it's sad but very few rappers are trying to imitate his sound/music

I think that might be partially be because it's an incredibly hard style to pull off without sounding forced/completely cheesy. Even Eminem has had times where his own style hasn't worked for him at all. Then you look at guys like Hopsin, and they come across as incredibly insincere in their music. It's very strange, but that's how I see it.

That's not my problem with it. The album just sounds... I don't know. It's unique, but it's aged poorly. Everything from the 90s seems to have aged poorly.

oh and yeah Kendrick's album does have a good chance of aging not that well if high concept albums become the norm in the next few years

I think that's a possibility. It does speak to its influence in hip-hop though too, if that does happen.

[dead prez]

Below the heavens > GKMC > TBA > Game Theory

Phuck u, I only asked cuz for a while the last three were literally the same rating down to the decibel points but u had GT last out of those three.

[classthe_king]

Below the heavens > GKMC > TBA > Game Theory

Phuck u, I only asked cuz for a while the last three were literally the same rating down to the decibel points but u had GT last out of those three.

I just haven't listened to it nearly as much as the other three

[Rattle1]

oh and yeah Kendrick's album does have a good chance of aging not that well if high concept albums become the norm in the next few years

I think that's a possibility. It does speak to its influence in hip-hop though too, if that does happen.

doubt it.

the first albums "to do it" are often those people remember the most. theres a few new concept albums influenced by gkmc (MKL) and the album is still one of the most praised albums right now

[classthe_king]

I would probably fall asleep while listening to him so I can make out his flaws before I could even click submit on my post. ..... see, this is the shit you would have said to make a rapper look bad so you could make fun of a person liking that certain artist.

And I would never say something like this lmao this just shows you know nothing about me as a poster. I actually know what I'm talking about when it comes to rap so I can explain why I like or dislike an artist while actually regarding the music and not just avoiding it and posting cliches.

[Accor]

Below the heavens > GKMC > TBA > Game Theory