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Multis in Rap. Why?

Postby WakeUpShow » Dec 16th, '10, 23:28

I know they make you seem smarter lol, but why are they so necessary except for the fact that they look good on paper. Besides the ones that come naturally, I don't see the point of forcing a multi. Biggie almost never used multis, and he had the best flow ever. He got his message across better than anyone besides maybe Em. The average listener doesn't even pick up on them. So.....Multis. Why?
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Re: Multis in Rap. Why?

Postby Master Chief » Dec 16th, '10, 23:43

Flow.

And because it makes your rhyme scheme, more complex which makes you a more skillful rapper.
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Re: Multis in Rap. Why?

Postby Kez » Dec 16th, '10, 23:54

I personally don't do it cause i want to "seem smart" lol

Tbh the idea of writing raps with just 1 word rhymes sounds boring as fuck and i think it'd actually be harder to do than a normal one with multis.
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Re: Multis in Rap. Why?

Postby mcZu » Dec 17th, '10, 00:01

Flow, sound of the message, cadence of the content, and poetical touch. Even normal poets use them to strengthen their poems, because the single, A, B, C, D kid-rhymes are plain and can make the flow/cadence of the message/content lose value or sound.
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Re: Multis in Rap. Why?

Postby Solace » Dec 17th, '10, 00:02

CoSh wrote:Besides the ones that come naturally, I don't see the point of forcing a multi.

Then don't.
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Re: Multis in Rap. Why?

Postby WakeUpShow » Dec 17th, '10, 00:05

Solace wrote:
CoSh wrote:Besides the ones that come naturally, I don't see the point of forcing a multi.

Then don't.

wow great post :y:
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Re: Multis in Rap. Why?

Postby WakeUpShow » Dec 17th, '10, 00:06

to those above solace, I feel like beautiful rock songs never used multis and they were just as poetic and flowed just as well. and I'm not saying we should not use multis, I'm just trying to figure out why there is so much emphasis put on them
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Re: Multis in Rap. Why?

Postby Solace » Dec 17th, '10, 00:07

CoSh wrote:
Solace wrote:
CoSh wrote:Besides the ones that come naturally, I don't see the point of forcing a multi.

Then don't.

wow great post :y:

Wow yours is amazing and beneficial too!
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Re: Multis in Rap. Why?

Postby Master Chief » Dec 17th, '10, 00:15

CoSh wrote:to those above solace, I feel like beautiful rock songs never used multis and they were just as poetic and flowed just as well. and I'm not saying we should not use multis, I'm just trying to figure out why there is so much emphasis put on them

That's why Rap is better than Rock, or any other genre for that matter.

Rap is far more complex (writing-wise) than any genre of music.
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Re: Multis in Rap. Why?

Postby scalia5 » Dec 17th, '10, 00:21

Master Chief wrote:
CoSh wrote:to those above solace, I feel like beautiful rock songs never used multis and they were just as poetic and flowed just as well. and I'm not saying we should not use multis, I'm just trying to figure out why there is so much emphasis put on them

That's why Rap is better than Rock, or any other genre for that matter.

Rap is far more complex (writing-wise) than any genre of music.


i respect your decision that rap is better than rock but you cant base your rerasoning on that. rock and rap are way 2 different genres of music. Rap came from rnb and rock came from blues. so both have different roots. Rap is more complex when it comes to lyrics but that doesnt mean rock is easy to write. i write both rap and rock music and sometimes for rock you have to let the music set the mood as well as the lyrics. plus in rock you sing. you can sing in a rap song but then that'd be rnb haha
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Re: Multis in Rap. Why?

Postby Master Chief » Dec 17th, '10, 00:27

I think Rap is better than Rock for a million other reasons.
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Re: Multis in Rap. Why?

Postby HipHopHead » Dec 17th, '10, 00:49

You shouldn't even be rapping if you have to ask that question. Since everyone has already named the reasons why how about I point out the fact that since Rakim popularized multies every rapper you respect has used them.

You seem to think that it's like dunking in the NBA as in it's showy and doesn't serve a purpose. It's more like handling in the sense that it's a tool through which your whole game and style will flow through.
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Re: Multis in Rap. Why?

Postby B.A.D. » Dec 17th, '10, 01:28

I know what you mean.

but its people that dont know shit's fault... when people, specially on the internet only speak about multi's this, multi's that. its starts to seem dumb, forced and un-necessary. and now they are on a lever where they overshadow everything else that people put into lyrics to make a rap scheme better.

its such this stupidity on people that they dont even notice multi's anymore, unless they are put like "theyre supposed to be"

they're necessary beacuse they smooth the flow out, and actually sound good. but you can still make an amazing rap verse without using a single multi but using other complex stuff... and make it sound pro as fuck.

but blame it on this internet kids that only know about multi's when composing a rap song, instead of focusing on the really important things like the message itself, the vocabulary used, the way you can paint a picture with words, the great methaphors. multi's is just a very nice adition to it. but its not as important as many people think :y:
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Re: Multis in Rap. Why?

Postby dead prez » Dec 17th, '10, 03:25

CoSh wrote:I know they make you seem smarter lol, but why are they so necessary except for the fact that they look good on paper. Besides the ones that come naturally, I don't see the point of forcing a multi. Biggie almost never used multis, and he had the best flow ever. He got his message across better than anyone besides maybe Em. The average listener doesn't even pick up on them. So.....Multis. Why?


Agree to an extenet, if multis aren't forced and come naturally (Eminem, G rap, Az) than yes they make it sound more complex. But many times too many rappers try to fit in syllables in a few bars to sound complex (Eminem in Infinite, and R.A. the rugged man, occasionally Pun) but come of doggerel. When Biggie used multis he didn't force so it came naturally (Niggaz Bleed, Long Kiss Goodnight).

But multis are overrated delivery, and flow are equally if not more important, Prodigy in the 90s rarely used multis and he was one of the reigning mcees at the time. He had amazing delivery, voice, flow, and the perfect diction. Like his last verse on HOE.

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Re: Multis in Rap. Why?

Postby Emadyville » Dec 17th, '10, 06:33

I think one thing to remember is that at least in my opinion, multi's are going to have to be used because of rhyming in general. Especially in rap because rappers say a lot more in a song due to the speed, compared to normal pop songs, singing in general, r & b, rock, etc.

What I mean by have to be used, is that it's hard to always rhyme words with only one syllable, I mean one syllable words are scarce when you think about, since most one syllable words are those like: a, me, the, them, then, where, etc. Tho I do understand that even multisyllable words, for example, reward, can be rhymed with sword, then making it only a one syllable rhyme. What I'm saying is that using rhymes like rhyming/timing/shining/rewinding etc makes a multi even if it's not meant to be a multi (if thinking like most do, that it's rhyming multiple words to make syllables match: diverse/my words).

Just wanted to say that lol. But I think multi's is meant to show complexity and intelligence as well as a better grasp of rapping/writing in general, but also mainly to show (at least I think of it when I write them more so than not) that you're putting in more effort. I mean to put it plainly, you want to hear a verse by someone who just jotted shit down, or someone who spent an hour dissecting the beat and writing their rhymes to it? Effort is one big factor I think people overlook or don't think about :y:
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