This Got Me Interested In American Football

[classthe_king]

so your attention span is so little that if something isn't constantly filled with fights and kicking then it's boring

[Tash8]

If only it wasn't boring and was all fights and kicks and shit....more like an open UFC/MMA type of shit

U mean The Longest Yard style?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FToDEyatbAk

watch at 20 seconds in

[SliK]

NFL is fucking stupid. There is a reason only one country in the whole world plays it seriously.

[mdemaz]

NFL is fucking stupid. There is a reason only one country in the whole world plays it seriously.

2edgy4me

[SliK]

Up to 46 players on a side on game day? That's honestly pathetic.

Rugby is a harder game and the run on side is 15 men and they play for 80-100% of the game. Each player knows how to attack, defend, kick, etc. The players who specialize in scrumming also have an important role in line-outs, rucks and mauls. The kicking player (and generally the whole backline and some forwards can kick) also have to run and tackle.

Play also doesn't stop after every tackle. The ball stays live so it can be stolen at any time - that's why it's necessary for teams to be able to attack/counter-attack and DEFEND. They have to be super quick and agile too, so they can't wear any padding what-so-ever meaning they sustain huge injuries but injuries are par for the course. 14 other men are relying on you so you keep playing.

NFL is just big people doing the same plays over and over, then subbing out when the roles change slightly.

[CanadaPure]

I played football for a long time and I still think it's boring as fuck to watch.

That being said, some of the players are incredibly athletically gifted. The guys on the O-Line? Not so much, most of the time. You can still tell when you have a bad offensive line, but that's where it turns into big guys going through the motions.

[SliK]

I don't want you to think I'm suggesting that they aren't talented or athletic. Obviously there are some extremely talented NFL players. I'm really just not a fan of the sport, I still respect the players.

There was a YouTube video of NFL guys doing some incredibly impressive stuff like jumping through cars and kicking/catching/passing some insane moves.

There are individual moments of brilliance, like in any sport, I just don't enjoy the game.

[CanadaPure]

I saw this NFL player one punch his bitch and I was like DAMN what a punch.

[PAINKILLƎR]

While American football is far from my favourite sport, to make it that far into any professional sport requires some talent. Not everyone can do what the best quarterbacks can do, which is probably my favourite position in the game - not that I watch it frequently at all, but there is clearly some mental mechanics involved there lol.

word about the quarterback position, they have to read coverages and blitz, when they have the ball they literally have like an estimate of 4 seconds to get rid of the ball to find an open target and to process all that in such a short amount of time... takes a lot of skill

I played football for a long time and I still think it's boring as fuck to watch.

That being said, some of the players are incredibly athletically gifted. The guys on the O-Line? Not so much, most of the time. You can still tell when you have a bad offensive line, but that's where it turns into big guys going through the motions.

idk bruv, offensive line men are strong and run some crazy times in the 40 yard dash, I'm pretty sure there's a lot of them that can clock a better 40 time than you lol

[CanadaPure]

idk bruv, offensive line men are strong and run some crazy times in the 40 yard dash, I'm pretty sure there's a lot of them that can clock a better 40 time than you lol

Oh probably. I've seen some videos of those guys sprinting and it's pretty crazy watching a 300 pound guy move that fast. There's still some who are incredibly nonathletic and just strong though.

*Nonathletic in the sense that they probably can't run the length of the field without being gassed.

[PAINKILLƎR]

I saw this NFL player one punch his bitch and I was like DAMN what a punch.

idk bruv, offensive line men are strong and run some crazy times in the 40 yard dash, I'm pretty sure there's a lot of them that can clock a better 40 time than you lol

Oh probably. I've seen some videos of those guys sprinting and it's pretty crazy watching a 300 pound guy move that fast. There's still some who are incredibly nonathletic and just strong though.

this aint the CFL boii

[CanadaPure]

this aint the CFL boii

CFL offensive linemen are fucking awful.

[CanadaPure]

this aint the CFL boii

CFL offensive linemen are fucking awful.

CFL is for real men.

I like the game, and I watch CFL more than NFL because it's more local and I can go to games. That being said, our linemen are fucking garbage most of the time lmao.

[SliK]

Up to 46 players on a side on game day? That's honestly pathetic.

Rugby is a harder game and the run on side is 15 men and they play for 80-100% of the game. Each player knows how to attack, defend, kick, etc. The players who specialize in scrumming also have an important role in line-outs, rucks and mauls. The kicking player (and generally the whole backline and some forwards can kick) also have to run and tackle.

Play also doesn't stop after every tackle. The ball stays live so it can be stolen at any time - that's why it's necessary for teams to be able to attack/counter-attack and DEFEND. They have to be super quick and agile too, so they can't wear any padding what-so-ever meaning they sustain huge injuries but injuries are par for the course. 14 other men are relying on you so you keep playing.

NFL is just big people doing the same plays over and over, then subbing out when the roles change slightly.

Up to 46 players on a side on game day? That's honestly pathetic.

In what way? Positions are a lot more specialised than most sports, as well as there being a lot more to learn tactically. From what I've read you're using Union as the comparison, but American Football evolved from League. A lot of people might consider kicking into touch at every given opportunity as patheticAmerican Football separated itself from Rugby even further when the forward pass was legalised in 1906, revolutionising the sport. Again, some people may consider only being able to pass backwards and having 15 men on the field all at once as a primitive concept in a sport stuck in its ways.

Play also doesn't stop after every tackle. The ball stays live so it can be stolen at any time - that's why it's necessary for teams to be able to attack/counter-attack and DEFEND. They have to be super quick and agile too, so they can't wear any padding what-so-ever meaning they sustain huge injuries but injuries are par for the course. 14 other men are relying on you so you keep playing.

NFL is just big people doing the same plays over and over, then subbing out when the roles change slightly.

Not every Rugby player is 'super quick and agile'; in fact, I'd say people who fit such a description are in the minority, especially in Union. I'm not really a fan of either code of Rugby, but I see where League fans are coming from when they rip into Union for being a game of kicking into touch for field position, peppered with athletically inept players who possess poor ball skills. This is just a generalisation though, of course.

American Football was about to be outlawed in 1905 due to 19 deaths occurring over the course of the season. This then led to many rule changes, as well as the introduction of equipment, which evolved over the years to what you see today. They don't wear 'pads because they're soft' as the vast majority assume, they wear them because the sport was on the brink of abolishment in the early 1900s.

NFL is just big people doing the same plays over and over, then subbing out when the roles change slightly.

The roles don't change slightly. There are many formations, sub packages and units that can be out on the field at any specific time. It's a game of matchups. I don't even know where to start with the 'same plays over and over' statement. In my opinion American Football is the most mentally challenging sport in the world. I can't think of any other sport where the playbook is on average 800 pages long. Film sessions, playbook study and game preparation are meticulously carried out.

I saw this NFL player one punch his bitch and I was like DAMN what a punch.

I knew there would be a gif of that somewhere on the internet

I didn't mean to your your feelings, lol. Or should I just say:
I forgot that you were the best QB in your whole school.

You obviously haven't watched much union if you honestly can't see the athleticism in each and every player. I'm talking at an international level. Hell, watch the ITM Cup in New Zealand and you'll see an extreme level of talent and athleticism and that is just a national comp. then you ave the international club comp (super rugby) and the international test matches. If you're using English Rugby clubs as the formation of your opinion, that would be like me using Mexican Grid Iron clubs as the basis for my opinion on American Football. I'm not. I'm talking about the elitist level of rugby vs the elitist level of NFL. Your shitty English clubs aren't the be-all and end-all of union clubs. The Southern Hemisphere dominates rugby.

League fans do rip on rugby fans, the same way rugby fans rip on league for their pathetic uncontested scrums and for 80 minutes doing exactly the same thing (5 tackles + a kick) - this must be why NFL evolved from league Territory is so important in union because every facet of the game is so EVENLY contested. In League or NFL, if you have the ball you're pretty safe. You have to really fuck up, or the other team has to do something special (HUGE tackle for example), to lose the ball once it's in your possession.

And if you want to know, I love rugby league too. I live in New South Wales Australia, of course I love League. There are (minor) elements of the game I even enjoy more than union. I'll spend the rest of the time arguing that League is a better sport than NFL if you want? Doesn't matter to me.

Positions are TOO specialized in NFL, that's my point. In union, positions are very specialized too. There are 8 forwards and they all have an extremely unique position to play in set pieces (scrums, line outs). They practice their drills their whole life. And guess what? They're STILL expected to play for 80 minutes, make dozens of tackles, hit ups, line breaks, rucks, mauls, turnovers. They're as vital in attack as they are in defense as they are in set pieces. The only person who might look overweight would be a front rower ("props" and maybe hookers) that is because they need brute strength more than speed or agility. They are the front line in a 900kg pack that charge into another 8 men weighing 900kgs. They also have to lift blokes in line outs all game who weigh 90-100kgs. As you know, like in NFL, a bit of fat doesn't mean you aren't an athlete or aren't suited to your role/sport. I've seen WAY (and I do mean WAAAY) fatter guys playing NFL than rugby.

15 men per side, 8 on the bench. Not even every bench player gets used. That to me is incredible and deserves a lot more respect than one man out of 46 who might take the field for 4 minutes to kick a goal