Does Eminem's new style/flow require more talent?

[gladimnotsoluble]

While I love Recovery and it certainly is the album of the year for me at the moment (we'll see when The Roots come out), I understand what you are saying with his flow getting tiring.

I think part of the magic of Em was his ability to tell a story or to speak his mind and the words just happened to rhyme. Sing For The Moment is a classic example of this. Now his flow seems awfully choppy as many of mentioned.

But really, I think the biggest issue I have is his insistence on yelling. His vocal volume is what can get really tiring after a while. Songs such as "Soldier" are so angry, his words are dripping in venom, yet at the same time it isn't necessary for him to yell the words. Songs like "Love You More" characterize his anger, along with his chorus that is actually sung instead of the constant layering of his voice that reminds me of hip hops' autotune persistence.

Don't get me wrong, this album is GREAT, and the yelling at times works REALLY well. His layering in Drop the World was one of the coolest things I've ever heard. However it seems to be that his new style gets a little tiring.

[Hadez]

i think it's about equal.

look at Relapse and you see crazy creative rhymes EVERWHERE, more story driven, and less punchlines
look at Recovery and you see clever punchlines and wordplay, MUCH simpler rhyming.

he took away one thing to get what that one thing was lacking so i say it's not necessarily more "talent" required.

That just shows how diverse Em is.

exactly

and i don't think "more talent" is the phrase to use. i just think it's a different mind frame. i think every album has a different state of mind behind them. Recovery has a punchline/wordplay mind frame so he put himself in that state of mind to capitalize on that.

[EminemInsider]

Nope.

The thing is, on half of the songs on the album Eminem didn't really write lines, he just wrote paragraphs with rhymes landing where they may and he'd just pause at the end of each bar to make it fit.

His "double time" flow on "No Love" is terrifying...so if you think talking fast is a talent, then I guess you could make an argument there.

And his rhyming is way down on this album versus what he did on his first 3 albums.

[Elision]

Lyrically, Marshall is more skilled that he has ever been.

[77o77]

When he's doing an emotional song he tends to rock the beat slower.