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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby SeoNv » Jun 24th, '10, 22:27

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:
SeoNv wrote:
EminemBase wrote:He is a bigger name and he is better. Than both of them. In all aspects.

He can do anything Big and Pac could where as neither of them could do what Em can.

Stop smoke crak men

Eminem-"i hate my mom and my dad, hailie, bitch kim, i got pills, serial killer, ima devil"
-MOckingbird, when im gone, sing for the momen, recovery, beautiful, deja vu, lose yourself, relapse xD :whistle:
Eminem copy/follow/inspirated by Tupac

Tupac-"family, realest, real life, stay true, weed, block, inspiration for a lot rappers, lets pray, changes, killuminati"
-Changes, keep ya head up. hail mary, ghost, me against the world, unconditional love.... :worship:
Tupac inspirated by The street, block, real life

Biggie biggest flow in his own rhymes


Fuck Off. :facepalm

sorry Im not Stan :coffee:
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby KillahBee » Jun 24th, '10, 23:05

You're asking this on an Eminem forum?

If this was posted on a Pac forum, most would say Pac, if it was posted on B.I.G forum, most would say B.I.G, since you posted here most are going to say Em

Me personally, I'd rate Em ahead of both of them, but B.I.G has an album that contains arguablly THE best displaying of emceeing ever (Ready To Die), that album alone puts him up there with the best, Life After Death would have probably been a classic too without Puffy, and even with Puffy controlling the album it still would have made a classic one disc album, hell who can outshine Bone Thugs on a fast rap track? Not many, but B.I.G did, Big is also one of the only emcees who can make a genuine club banger (Big Pappa) and then spit one of the craziset stories ever laid to wax (Gimme The Loot), he had it all

And Pac, I have a love/hate thing with him, sometimes I think he was a fake thug who was a studio gangster, and then I realise what he did was entertainment, I'm not going to critisise Al Pacino for not really being a Cuban druglord, why? Because it's just entertainment, and that exactly how I view Pac these days

Who else has made songs where basically ANYBODY can relate to them? Dear Mamma, Pain, Keep Ya Head Up, Changes, Staring at The World Through My Rearview, the dude gave it all on almost every track, he also has one of the best discographies in rap, despite dying so young
But he didn't just make music people could relate to, The 7 Day Theory proved he was a great emcee, and he was improving each year until he died

People need to stop comparing artists to eachother and just enjoy the music, thats what its made for
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Sh.., Thats' only half if they like you
That ain't even the half what they might do
Don't believe me, ask Michael
See Martin, see Malcolm
You see Biggie, see Pac, see success and its outcome
See Jesus, see Judas; see Caesar, see Brutus
See success is like suicide
Suicide, it's a suicide
If you succeed, prepare to be crucified
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby electroencephalogram » Jun 24th, '10, 23:13

Em is better. Those two are so overrated only because they died in their prime, the same thing would have happened if 50 died after releasing GRODT.

Not to say Em is the absolute best ever, but better.
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby ChronicJon » Jun 24th, '10, 23:34

Stans :facepalm
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby EminemBase » Jun 24th, '10, 23:46

SeoNv wrote:
EminemBase wrote:He is a bigger name and he is better. Than both of them. In all aspects.

He can do anything Big and Pac could where as neither of them could do what Em can.

Stop smoke crak men

Eminem-"i hate my mom and my dad, hailie, bitch kim, i got pills, serial killer, ima devil"
-MOckingbird, when im gone, sing for the momen, recovery, beautiful, deja vu, lose yourself, relapse xD :whistle:
Eminem copy/follow/inspirated by Tupac

Tupac-"family, realest, real life, stay true, weed, block, inspiration for a lot rappers, lets pray, changes, killuminati"
-Changes, keep ya head up. hail mary, ghost, me against the world, unconditional love.... :worship:
Tupac inspirated by The street, block, real life

Biggie biggest flow in his own rhymes


More like

Eminem - Endless flows / styles, groundbreaking storytelling / concepts, blistering irony and originality.

2Pac - Same flow, black on black violence, police brutality.

I'd rather hear Em tear through four minutes of madness with chainsaw and pills with an incredibly precise flow as opposed to hear 2Pac or Biggie talk about weed, gangsta life and cops.

I like all three of them but 2Pac never created an album that even approaches the genius of The Marshall Mathers LP. It's a total head-fuck, powerhouse piece of modern art. The same cannot be said for ANY 2Pac album as good as most of them are.

People keep sarcastically remarking on Em talking about his mother, Kim and Hailie all the time. Okay, lets see, out of about 500 available songs, probably about ten in total are about them. Yeah, what an overwhelming percentage. In comparison to how many about street life in 2Pac's portfolio? Other rappers' themes are far far more repetitive and overdone than Eminem's, people just emphasize Em's more because he does them better.

Em's topical range is huge. He sporadically jumps from idea to idea, line for line unlike anybody. People focus on the overtones of his album and say his subject matter is limited when in reality he's talked about almost anything you can fucking think of.

As an artist AND as an emcee, Eminem easily beats both of them.
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby JamesTaylor » Jun 24th, '10, 23:48

Biggies flow was stupendous at times... He'd certainly put the burn on Em as much as Em would do to him
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Re: Em better then Pac and Big?!

Postby SeoNv » Jun 25th, '10, 00:06

EminemBase wrote:
SeoNv wrote:
EminemBase wrote:He is a bigger name and he is better. Than both of them. In all aspects.

He can do anything Big and Pac could where as neither of them could do what Em can.

Stop smoke crak men

Eminem-"i hate my mom and my dad, hailie, bitch kim, i got pills, serial killer, ima devil"
-MOckingbird, when im gone, sing for the momen, recovery, beautiful, deja vu, lose yourself, relapse xD :whistle:
Eminem copy/follow/inspirated by Tupac

Tupac-"family, realest, real life, stay true, weed, block, inspiration for a lot rappers, lets pray, changes, killuminati"
-Changes, keep ya head up. hail mary, ghost, me against the world, unconditional love.... :worship:
Tupac inspirated by The street, block, real life

Biggie biggest flow in his own rhymes


More like

Eminem - Endless flows / styles, groundbreaking storytelling / concepts, blistering irony and originality.

2Pac - Same flow, black on black violence, police brutality.

I'd rather hear Em tear through four minutes of madness with chainsaw and pills with an incredibly precise flow as opposed to hear 2Pac or Biggie talk about weed, gangsta life and cops.

I like all three of them but 2Pac never created an album that even approaches the genius of The Marshall Mathers LP. It's a total head-fuck, powerhouse piece of modern art. The same cannot be said for ANY 2Pac album as good as most of them are.

People keep sarcastically remarking on Em talking about his mother, Kim and Hailie all the time. Okay, lets see, out of about 500 available songs, probably about ten in total are about them. Yeah, what an overwhelming percentage. In comparison to how many about street life in 2Pac's portfolio? Other rappers' themes are far far more repetitive and overdone than Eminem's, people just emphasize Em's more because he does them better.

Em's topical range is huge. He sporadically jumps from idea to idea, line for line unlike anybody. People focus on the overtones of his album and say his subject matter is limited when in reality he's talked about almost anything you can fucking think of.

As an artist AND as an emcee, Eminem easily beats both of them.


Eminem never made an album like Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me, The 7 Day Theory shit real
just look We Made You = WTF? he is followed for Stans in the world and talk about crap ??=?

Shady live in the Fantasy Drugs
This last album Em asked about write his lyrics
in 11 years Cant made the same than Pac

2pac live in the Real Life homie, talkin about Real Shit, this is more important for me
The Tupac FLow was Original/Unique anybody can make something like that, The Black Jesus today

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