Eminem Wanted To Retire After Encore...

[kindafeelslikedejavu]

i'm too high too explain now lmao

leave your thoughts

i will post an in-depth analysis tomorrow.. but it's pretty obvious

EDIT: as a solo rapper, not producer/helping out other artists

[GoodGirlsGetGutted]

He hit a low that he didn't think he would bounce back from. When his future looked that bleak he simply lost his motivation.

[kindafeelslikedejavu]

He hit a low that he didn't think he would bounce back from. When his future looked that bleak he simply lost his motivation.

that could be one way to look at it...
but realistically why else would he name his album "Encore"?
he also hinted at it in the eminem show in songs such as say goodbye to hollywood.
also in without me he says "I've created a monster, cause nobody wants to see Marshall no more
They want Shady, I'm chopped liver" (he knows that he is famous because of "Slim shady", not himself. he knows this is what everyone wants,except for his true fanbase, of course, that appreciates his deeper music not written with the slim shady character in mind. but it is the "slim shady" music which gave him his record sales due to the entertainment involved. hence, the title, "the eminem show". he knows this was all a "show" put on for entertainment. he wanted to move away from this lifestyle of slim shady, because he knows that is not who he truly is. (when i'm gone, saying goodbye to hollywood). he was "saying goodbye to hollywood" because he knew he would not achieve anymore success without slim shady involved, because of the entertainment factor. the only reason em went mainstream was because of this slim shady character, all of the hate, violence, craziness, was entertainment to the general public (who obviously, for the most part, do not have a sense for good music according to the mainstream music that has been out for the past >10 years.)
yes i know this is ongoing and rambling, but as i said i will repost tomorrow lol, but i might as well keep going for now)
at this point in his career he had accomplished everything (more than everything) he wished to accomplish when entering the rap game. if you havent noticed, lol, he was never big on the whole "fame" thing. but as he said, it was an addictive, love/hate relationship,('My friends keep asking me why I cant just walk away from/Im addicted/To the pain, the stress, the drama/Im drownin/ so I guess, imma mess/Cursed and blessed") which is explained in many of his songs. he wants to get away, but at the same time didn't want to dissapoint his true fans.
I dont wanna quit
"This shit, it feels like this is it
For me to have this much i feel like this is it
This is not a game this fame the real life is as sick
Publicity my ass, consume my fuckin dick
Fuck the guns, im done ill never look at gats
If i scrap, ima scrap it like i never wooped some ass
I love my fans but no one ever puts a grasp on the fact
That I sacrificed everything I had

(I dont think she understands the sacrifices that I made
Maybe if this bitch had acted right I wouldve stayed)

I never dreamt i'd get to the level that im at
This is wack, this is more then I ever coulda asked
Everywhere I go I had a sweater, hood or mask
What about math? how come I wasnt never good at that
Its like the boy in a bubble who never could adapt I'm trapped
If I could go back, I never woulda rapped
I sold my soul to the devil, ill never get it back
I just wanna leave this game with level head intact
Imagine going from bein' no one and seein everything blow up
And all you did was grow up mceein'
Its fuckin crazy, all I wanted was to give Hailey the life i never had
I've forced us to live alienated, so i'm sayin"

"And when I'm gone, just carry on, don't mourn
Rejoice every time you hear the sound of my voice"
(I told you, youd be sorry if I fucking left)

sorry i know this is running-on and unclear... i'm too lazy right now to keep going. i will be back tomorrow lol.. hopefully SOMEONE is on the same page as me..

[kindafeelslikedejavu]

and i will go on to talk about his "comeback"
(and how he never wanted to "comeback")

[GoodGirlsGetGutted]

These are good points you brought up, but I'm not so sure he was using his album titles as a running metaphor for his career. I think it just looks that way in hindsight.

[kindafeelslikedejavu]

These are good points you brought up, but I'm not so sure he was using his album titles as a running metaphor for his career. I think it just looks that way in hindsight.

and in reply to your first post, i did not mean that he wanted to retire after he saw the limited success encore had, i meant that he had planned to end his career before he released encore, hence the title. i mean why else would there be an "eminem show", "encore", and "curtain call".. then essentially dissapear for 4 years.

to me, it is pretty obvious in his lyrics that he did not want to be in the limelight anymore.

as for the comeback, i do not believe "relapse" was all about his drug use. it was used as a metaphor for him "relapsing" with slim shady (serial killing, craziness, mocking, etc), but i will go further into that and recovery and edit my last post tomorrow.

[kindafeelslikedejavu]

These are good points you brought up, but I'm not so sure he was using his album titles as a running metaphor for his career. I think it just looks that way in hindsight.

and the metaphorical genius that eminem is, why would you be surprised by him doing this with his album titles.

i just think it's weird that not many people notice this (pretty obvious) metaphor

[GoodGirlsGetGutted]

I meant a low as a person, not as a musician. In terms of his drug abuse.
He took a haitus because of drugs, hence why I don't believe his album titles are allegorical. I mean, who plans on becoming an addict and OD'ing to justify a timed retirement?

[kindafeelslikedejavu]

I meant a low as a person, not as a musician. In terms of his drug abuse.
He took a haitus because of drugs, hence why I don't believe his album titles are allegorical. I mean, who plans on becoming an addict and OD'ing to justify a timed retirement?

i know drugs played a part, but that doesn't dispute the argument about his album titles and that he wanted to quit. why do you think his drug use got so out of hand? he wasn't nearly effected by drugs in the eminem show era as he was during encore. he didn't know how to deal with the point he was at, didn't know how to leave the game, knew he couldn't just walk out on his fans, couldnt fall asleep at night thinking about how fame was effecting his life (kim, hailie, etc), so he took pills to get through it

edit:
Bury my face in comic books, cause I don't want to look
At nothin', this world's too much
I've swallowed all I could
If I could swallow a bottle of tylenol I would, and end it for good
Just say goodbye to Hollywood

[kindafeelslikedejavu]

and by the way i'm not asking you to completely agree with me, just to acknowledge that what i'm saying is a possibility

[GoodGirlsGetGutted]

and by the way i'm not asking you to completely agree with me, just to acknowledge that what i'm saying is a possibility

Oh, it's absolutely a possibility. I don't necessarily disagree with you, I would just find it very shocking if Em was so perceptive as to turn his entire early career into a symbol of self aware decrepitude and its consequences. I'm a believer that God has a plan for everyone, and I really doubt that it was ever Em's destiny to intentionally cut his artistic output short. I'm too optimistic to buy that.

[kiki]

Wasn't this common knowledge, no?

[Emadyville]

I think you're looking to far into this, I know I write songs on how I feel at that moment, that day, or that week...I look back at some older songs and think "damn, why would I say that shit, I don't feel that way now".

So my guess is at times when he was pissed at the fame, it came out in songs, if the dude wanted to retire he woulda

[NicoleEM]

as for the comeback, i do not believe "relapse" was all about his drug use. it was used as a metaphor for him "relapsing" with slim shady (serial killing, craziness, mocking, etc), but i will go further into that and recovery and edit my last post tomorrow.

I think he makes it pretty clear how he felt about Slim Shady/fame in My darling...Obviously he did thought of quiting at some point,but as it's mentioned all over Recovery it is too hard for him to just leave,which i'm glad he didn't

[Fa-Q]

Yea, this does kind of make sense....what was that verse where he says something about him trying to pass the torch but they keep dropping it