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Jay-Z and Eminem - Renegade, Who Killed Whom? (Article)

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Re: Jay-Z and Eminem - Renegade, Who Killed Whom? (Article)

Postby Slim Fiasco » Aug 31st, '11, 20:17

Kez wrote:
djdixie wrote:
Slim Fiasco wrote:As C.R.E.A.M. said, you can't put that one aspect above the other few combined. Actually, you can't even put it against one of them because it's extremely subjective whether the first is more important than the second. And if we go by that ranking than Lupe should be the greatest ever. But of course, if I say that than I'll get jumped on because Lupe's flow, rhyming and discography aren't up to par and that same people will make complexity almost completely irrelevant. And that's why I always say that the most important thing is to be well-rounded and Em was the best at that.


lol speaking of C.R.E.A.M , where the fuck is he, has he changed his username or something.


C.R.E.A.M's now GameTheory. The Rainbow Dash avatar shoulda helped give that away really


Yup, though I'm used to calling him C.R.E.A.M so he shouldn't expect that to change.
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Re: Jay-Z and Eminem - Renegade, Who Killed Whom? (Article)

Postby obzion » Aug 31st, '11, 20:19

both did amazing. eminem just did amazinger :p
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Re: Jay-Z and Eminem - Renegade, Who Killed Whom? (Article)

Postby Master Chief » Aug 31st, '11, 20:21

MikeNUFC wrote:Completely ignoring the article (it's RapGenius) it was close, Em just edged it.

In no way did he 'murder' or 'kill' him. But of course Nas said it, so it must be true.

^ This.

Eminem didn't kill him. Not even close. That song contains two of Jay's best verses, and two Em's best verses.

I have yet to see anyone actually explain why Eminem killed Jay on Renegade.
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Re: Jay-Z and Eminem - Renegade, Who Killed Whom? (Article)

Postby crosby87 » Aug 31st, '11, 21:01

Obviously Em won. Nas said it and later in an interview even Jay-Z said Em's verses were better...pointless thread.
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Re: Jay-Z and Eminem - Renegade, Who Killed Whom? (Article)

Postby Mr Change » Aug 31st, '11, 21:22

To be completely honest, I love both rappers' verses on this song...BUT, Eminem's first verse is one of his absolute best ever and he easily KILLS Jay...




Eminem doesn't do double-meaning? wtf?
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Re: Jay-Z and Eminem - Renegade, Who Killed Whom? (Article)

Postby Fleka » Aug 31st, '11, 21:24

Yeah, both did a great job. Em`s verses are perfection, but props to Jay doing the song even though he heard Em`s verses.
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Re: Jay-Z and Eminem - Renegade, Who Killed Whom? (Article)

Postby dshady89 » Aug 31st, '11, 21:40

4th verse FIRST LINE:
See I'm a poet to some, a regular modern-day SHAKESPEARE
LAST LINE:
Making his butter off these BLOODSUCKERS


What the geniuses in Rap Genius couldn't figure out was that Shakespeare is the first known person in the English language to use the word bloodsucker.

Now that gem >>>> Any Jay double meaning line in this song (yes, counting, "pocket full of hope" LOL)
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Re: Jay-Z and Eminem - Renegade, Who Killed Whom? (Article)

Postby Mr.DGAF » Aug 31st, '11, 22:13

GameTheory wrote:>"If teh writer himself said it then he's right", Wayne claimed he's the best rapper of all-time



Not to start anything. but Wayne calling himself the best is completely different from a rapper claiming that someone else's verse(s) on his own song was better.
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Re: Jay-Z and Eminem - Renegade, Who Killed Whom? (Article)

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Sep 1st, '11, 00:08

dshady89 wrote:4th verse FIRST LINE:
See I'm a poet to some, a regular modern-day SHAKESPEARE
LAST LINE:
Making his butter off these BLOODSUCKERS


What the geniuses in Rap Genius couldn't figure out was that Shakespeare is the first known person in the English language to use the word bloodsucker.

Now that gem >>>> Any Jay double meaning line in this song (yes, counting, "pocket full of hope" LOL)

:worship:

Get every rapper the fuck outta here!
The devil ain't on a level same as him!
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Re: Jay-Z and Eminem - Renegade, Who Killed Whom? (Article)

Postby Amaranthine » Sep 1st, '11, 02:12

dshady89 wrote:4th verse FIRST LINE:
See I'm a poet to some, a regular modern-day SHAKESPEARE
LAST LINE:
Making his butter off these BLOODSUCKERS


What the geniuses in Rap Genius couldn't figure out was that Shakespeare is the first known person in the English language to use the word bloodsucker.

Now that gem >>>> Any Jay double meaning line in this song (yes, counting, "pocket full of hope" LOL)

Shit, really??? :o That's the coolest thing I've heard in a LONG time.
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Re: Jay-Z and Eminem - Renegade, Who Killed Whom? (Article)

Postby Alex2012 » Sep 1st, '11, 02:14

2nd verse of Eminem is amazing. :y:


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Re: Jay-Z and Eminem - Renegade, Who Killed Whom? (Article)

Postby VinniePazienza » Sep 1st, '11, 03:25

Jay is really different to Em. He has a wall around him publicly beyond that Em has and his rhymes reflect it IMO. I think Em's a slightly better MC but Jay is at least the 2nd best alive

ps. Em won renegade lol
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Re: Jay-Z and Eminem - Renegade, Who Killed Whom? (Article)

Postby Mr Change » Sep 1st, '11, 03:54

VinniePazienza wrote:Jay is really different to Em. He has a wall around him publicly beyond that Em has and his rhymes reflect it IMO. I think Em's a slightly better MC but Jay is at least the 2nd best alive

ps. Em won renegade lol


I think Em has more publicity than Jay, bro

At that time, anyway, for sure.
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Re: Jay-Z and Eminem - Renegade, Who Killed Whom? (Article)

Postby EminemInsider » Sep 1st, '11, 03:56

Prime Eminem's deficienciez as a rappah... :laughing:

Eminem don't got da metaphorz.
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