RR's Best Guest Verses '11 - #3: Eminem - Throw It Up

[SG.]

I don't get it... why choose this over INAD?

I don't hate this verse but there could have been much better choices.

[slimsoxshady]

maybe top 50

[Hadez]

the verse fits the "theme" of the song, sure. but i'm over the whole trailer trash thing em's been doing. he use to make fun of trailer trash social groups, now he insists on being part of them. kind of annoying.

and honestly, Yela does better than Em on this track. i'm not for or against Yela. he's mostly just kind of a blah artist with a handful of shining moments, and yet he killed it on this one.

[NicoleEM]

There must be something about this verse that the average fan doesn't understand it.Every other rapper/hip-hop head says it's a great verse.Then again RR is ran by Paul,so i'm not surprised it's in this top..

[EminemBase]

This verse is entertaining, it's just fine. Neither great nor bad.

But what was disappointing was Yela's hype. Him saying you've never heard Eminem like this before.

Why, just because it's on a track with Gangsta Boo ffs? lmao.

Em was still himself and sounds like he has lately with flow and content.

[momentsgolden]

Unless if its hiphopdx or pitchfork, i really dont give a rat's ass what your opinion on hip-hop is. Not much different weight from a Geno, Freespeech, Menzo opinion tbh


Verse still shit.

Pitchfork? they gave Relapse 4.8/10 and Recovery 2.8/10... and Encore 6.5/10 lmao.

On the verse, I think it's okay, it's enjoyable, nothing special.

How is it incoherent and unintelligent though? he misuses the word 'eloquent' but other than that I don't see how it's incoherent...

I do admit, pitchfork got beef with Eminem tbh haha. But, they are haters in general- usually criticise more than praise albums although they just seem to have that slightly objective spin on their ratings unlike Rapradar (which got a freaking Eminem face 365). Even Hiphopdx praises certain albums (Red by Game) in obvious marketing hype.

Unintelligent,

You ain't got the umph, you’re a hoof, to the foot of an elephant

- obvious reach

Bitch you better pop in a CD of me immediately, SLUT, HOE
Skidda di da da. Prada? Nada chance

- still lost tbh

I am here, that’s why I’m here

sounds cool but still

Besides those lines, the whole verse "story" lacked continuity and focus unlike masterpieces like Same Song and Dance for example.

[JustEnjoytheMusic]

Always liked the verse, never understood the hate.

Marshall was having fun people. You want some serious meaningful content or complex storytelling? then wait for his next album.

Thank you.

I still can't figure out why people are all over this song.

Is it truly necessary to like every song he ever wrote, featured or in any other way participated in? That's crazy.

Here is what I respect about Eminem: he is the reason why I started to appreciate hip hop beats in general, why I smile when I hear hip hop beats in a movie and why I try so hard to understand what the artist (any hip hop artist) is saying. Since English isn't my first language, that can be hard. That's why I love Encore... Please, before you arrive with the pitchforks, let me explain: The beat and Eminem's rhymes were slower than what I'd heard before and just learning English, I was able to understand every single word and I was overwhelmed by what he delivered in Like Toy soldiers, Mosh, Yellow Brick Road and Mockingbird. They still belong to my favorite songs... Mosh mainly for the political content. But that's what it was about for me at first: "what does he say?", more than "how does he say it (as in lyrical skill; his voice is another matter entirely)"? I knew nothing about hip hop, rhymes (other than what little poetry we were forced to analyze at school), the culture was completely foreign to me, so Encore was like a gentle introduction.... I never liked all songs, still don't. But later, I started to appreciate "Encore" and "One Shot 2 Shot".
Eminem was the first music artist that ever made me want to know more about their genre.
To this day, after listening to Mockingbird on my MP3-Player I still hear the beginnings of "Crazy in Love" even if I'm listening to songs in no particular order. That's how many times I've listened to that album.

I've learned a lot about rap and I still love Encore. Because it was the first album I ever heard of Eminem, because those songs I mentioned above ARE great no matter what any of you say. Just like you feel like hitting the person that speaks lowly of the album and songs that ultimately brought you to this forum, I feel protective of Encore.


"Lose Yourself" is the only hip hop song my brother is listening to. We had a single that contained that song and "Renegade". At that time, I didn't understand a word in either song, but I loved the way "Renegade" sounded. I was about 15 or 16. It took me a few more years to sincerely listen to Eminem.

What I'm trying to say is that Eminem has given us this incredible variety of songs, changing accents, voices, topic, rhyming skills, music... It's like an All-You-Can-Eat Buffet! So, please, why don't you just pick the stuff you like instead of moaning about the hot chili and the smelly cheese?
I've done that for years. And I always keep eyes and ears open for another song/album/collabs I might come to love. That's how I found Airplanes II.

Did I like "Throw it up"? No, not really. I didn't enjoy the song in general. It's the kind of song I'm listening to once or twice, shrug and move on. Nevertheless, the song is not bad. It's just not my kind of of song. So be it.
It doesn't make Eminem a lesser artist, rapper, whatever, in my mind.
Am I the only person from the pre-ITunes era that used to buy albums simply because there were three out of twenty songs you actually liked? You support that artist for those three songs, not the seventeen others. In Eminem's case, the percenteage of songs I like per album is much much higher than the average musician. Thats why I call myself a fan.

If you look at what people write about what they want from Eminem it's crazy:

- I want him bashing celebrities again
- I want serious songs
- I want him to go back on drugs
- I want to hear more personal songs
- Why can't he be more like on MMLP?
- I want him to grow as an artists, but fuck him if he changes from what he used to be
- I love Recovery.
- I hate Recovery. Why can't he be more like on Relapse? I loved the accents.
- Quit it with the accents.
- Quit it with the screaming.
- he's gone pop.



If he did everything his fans wanted, he'd have to quit altogether.
It's his variety that makes him so great. He brought people to hip hop that otherwise wouldn't have looked twice at the genre (me included) and that's usually not for the horrorcore stuff.

To conclude this long rant, here's something that made me grin:

Marshall Mathers - MMLP

"Now because of this blonde mop that's on top
and this fucked up head that I've got, I've gone pop?
The underground just spunned around and did a 360
Now these kids diss me and act like some big sissies
"Oh, he just did some shit with Missy,
so now he thinks he's too big to do some shit with MC Get-Bizzy""

Isn't it ironic that people want him to back to that era? Even though he spoke of that particular issue already?

"But tonight I'm serving you with papers I'm divorcing you
Go marry someone else and make em famous
And take away there freedom like you did to me
Treat em like you don't need em and they ain't worthy of you
Feed em the same shit that you made me eat
I'm moving on forget you oh,
Now I'm special, I ain't feel special when I was with you."

If he says that to his fans one day, I won't blame him.