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Eminem ft. Da Ruckus - We Shine [Throwback]

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Re: Eminem ft. Da Ruckus - We Shine [Throwback]

Postby EminemBase » Dec 29th, '12, 19:06

AbramIsaac wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Those are my favourite kind of lines from Em... left-field wit and irony... or just when he's spiteful: "have you locked in a celler; developing anorexia, while I'm standing next to ya... eating a full course meal" :laughing: - he's never stopped saying these 'kinds' of things, it's just that depending on his style of writing and rapping (which is constantly changing), sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, or nowhere near as well as it did. His 97-99 style I think was probably best for these kind of left-field, cartoon violence lines. His wit was so brilliant then though.

A good example of that type of line in more recent times would be in "On Fire"

"Walk up on a homeless man, holdin' a sign sayin'
'Vietnam vet', I'm out my fuckin mind man
Kick over the can, beat his ass and leave him 9 grand"


Yeah, that one is okay, people seem to like that a lot more than I do... well, beating him and leaving him a lot of money is pretty funny... but a lot of those attempts recently are more-so just nonsensical, completely, as in, there's no intrinsic wit to it, it's just a statement.

Where as... "I'm the old man who lives upstairs and starves his pets, who never leaves his house - cause he thinks his car's possessed" :laughing: is pretty comedically brilliant, but not just babble, I dunno, he's getting there though. And there's lots of glimmers of brilliance.
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Re: Eminem ft. Da Ruckus - We Shine [Throwback]

Postby Willy » Dec 29th, '12, 19:10

AbramIsaac wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Those are my favourite kind of lines from Em... left-field wit and irony... or just when he's spiteful: "have you locked in a celler; developing anorexia, while I'm standing next to ya... eating a full course meal" :laughing: - he's never stopped saying these 'kinds' of things, it's just that depending on his style of writing and rapping (which is constantly changing), sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, or nowhere near as well as it did. His 97-99 style I think was probably best for these kind of left-field, cartoon violence lines. His wit was so brilliant then though.

A good example of that type of line in more recent times would be in "On Fire"

"Walk up on a homeless man, holdin' a sign sayin'
'Vietnam vet', I'm out my fuckin mind man
Kick over the can, beat his ass and leave him 9 grand"


I think he was trying to tap into his past powers but it doesn't come off as well. It's not as concise or hard hitting, to me at least.
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Re: Eminem ft. Da Ruckus - We Shine [Throwback]

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 29th, '12, 20:28

EminemBase wrote:
AbramIsaac wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Those are my favourite kind of lines from Em... left-field wit and irony... or just when he's spiteful: "have you locked in a celler; developing anorexia, while I'm standing next to ya... eating a full course meal" :laughing: - he's never stopped saying these 'kinds' of things, it's just that depending on his style of writing and rapping (which is constantly changing), sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, or nowhere near as well as it did. His 97-99 style I think was probably best for these kind of left-field, cartoon violence lines. His wit was so brilliant then though.

A good example of that type of line in more recent times would be in "On Fire"

"Walk up on a homeless man, holdin' a sign sayin'
'Vietnam vet', I'm out my fuckin mind man
Kick over the can, beat his ass and leave him 9 grand"


Yeah, that one is okay, people seem to like that a lot more than I do... well, beating him and leaving him a lot of money is pretty funny... but a lot of those attempts recently are more-so just nonsensical, completely, as in, there's no intrinsic wit to it, it's just a statement.

Where as... "I'm the old man who lives upstairs and starves his pets, who never leaves his house - cause he thinks his car's possessed" :laughing: is pretty comedically brilliant, but not just babble, I dunno, he's getting there though. And there's lots of glimmers of brilliance.



I had totally forgot this one :laughing: .

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Re: Eminem ft. Da Ruckus - We Shine [Throwback]

Postby Shady80 » Dec 30th, '12, 00:23

I think he was trying to tap into his past powers but it doesn't come off as well. It's not as concise or hard hitting, to me at least.

I think that if you would put the same line over a softer, more playful beat, with less intensity in his voice it wouldve actually sounded like vintage shady
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Re: Eminem ft. Da Ruckus - We Shine [Throwback]

Postby Willy » Dec 30th, '12, 01:30

Vintage shady's lines weren't as drawn out. The nugget of humor was beating up a homeless guy and leaving him a shitload of money. He tried to make it funnier by adding 'Vietnam vet', but that added an unnecessary bar, and made it sound awkward..coming off as convoluted and 'ehh'.

I think 'Underground' and 'On Fire' are both similar in that he was trying to recapture the vintage sound but missed the mark. Underground has a lot of nonsense that just isn't funny or clever.. and On Fire has a lot of good ideas with poor execution. He probably could have done something with forcing a blind man to color inside the lines that might be funny with better execution.
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