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Ah, so that explains Encore/his fall off

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Re: Ah, so that explains Encore/his fall off

Postby EminemInsider » May 13th, '09, 08:50

Eminemnow wrote:
Um, it's a NEW FUCKING INTERVIEW. Seven years ago from now = 2002. Meaning that on every song he recorded between TES and Relapse, he was under the influence of something.


Same with every song before that too.

I know it's a NEW FUCKING INTERVIEW, but he's talking about the time he started taking pills and becoming depressed. He started talking about sleeping pills in like 05' properly, on When I'm Gone.

He went into rehab in 05'. Then Proof died in 06, which is when he looked slow etc. So it's likely he was talking about 05' / 06. Not Encore.


Seriously, how stupid are you? This is unreal.

The interview Evan is referring to was conducted in 2009 and Eminem was referring to his sessions for RELAPSE, not his 2006 sessions. He was clean for all of TWO WEEKS (per his own word) in late 2005.

So the "slow process" is referring to his coming out of this stupor he was in.

And Evan already touched on it, but it's worth repeating. There is an ENORMOUS difference between the drugs he used to take and the drugs he was taking from 2003-2007. Marijuana and shrooms aren't dangerously addictive and they don't build up in your blood stream and devastate your mental processes for days on end. He talked about this in depth in his interviews, but I guess you Encore and ReUp lovers are too dumb to even bother reading. In the past, he didn't struggle with addiction; he was able to stop when he needed to. He would dabble in drugs but that was about it. And the drugs he was taking didn't completely devastate his holistic health like prescription pain killers do.

But then again, who am I kidding? I'm arguing with morons who can't even tell the fucking difference between the cliche, monosyllabic rhymes and monotonous, spill-over flow in a shot voice on Encore and the crisp, clear, aggressive flow and beautifully aligned multi-syllabic rhymes on Relapse (aside from on ONE track--"Beautiful," which---TADA!!!!!---WAS THE "best song out of that batch that I did when I wasn't sober. At the time I felt like, 'This is it for me.' I wrote the first verse and a half in rehab, and when I came out, I finished it." Eminem said himself that his shit sucked, but some people just can't admit they were fools to dickride Encore.

It's really quite hilarious to those of us with a brain.
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Re: Ah, so that explains Encore/his fall off

Postby sitariboo » May 14th, '09, 01:58

dude the weed and drugs brought out the creative side in marshall mathers. he needs to get back on that shit and make another dope album like sslp and mmlp. not just fuck with pills and valiums all the time
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Re: Ah, so that explains Encore/his fall off

Postby da r star » May 14th, '09, 17:46

Epidemik wrote:I dont belive he ever fell off imo
he proved that with No Apologies
even though the production wasnt great and the first two verses were older freestyles (if i remember correctly) This song has something that encore didnt. Passion. I dont think em fell off but just stopped caring or maybe got bored of the rap game.
im not gonna disagree because i dont know.. drugs coulda been a big part of the problem..
but imo he still has the skill... he just isnt putting as much effort and passion into it as he used to.


I still believe, that No Apologies is a left over from Eminem Show, or recorded during the Eminem Show/8 Mile period. The flow and the production refers a lot to that time period.
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Re: Ah, so that explains Encore/his fall off

Postby RealSickLindley » May 14th, '09, 17:52

da r star wrote:
Epidemik wrote:I dont belive he ever fell off imo
he proved that with No Apologies
even though the production wasnt great and the first two verses were older freestyles (if i remember correctly) This song has something that encore didnt. Passion. I dont think em fell off but just stopped caring or maybe got bored of the rap game.
im not gonna disagree because i dont know.. drugs coulda been a big part of the problem..
but imo he still has the skill... he just isnt putting as much effort and passion into it as he used to.


I still believe, that No Apologies is a left over from Eminem Show, or recorded during the Eminem Show/8 Mile period. The flow and the production refers a lot to that time period.

No apologies was a song that was in production around the ES time, but he decided against putting it on the album. But then he finished it and brushed it up for ReUp, as he thought it was a time when he had something to prove.

Don't ask for a source, just been told by a fair few people from different places.
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Re: Ah, so that explains Encore/his fall off

Postby 1sick6 » May 15th, '09, 04:50

The first 2 verses on No Apologies were freestyles that he did in the MMLP/Devil's Knight era.
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