Doubts about Relapse 2

[Relapse.LP]

You know that he already finished his follow-up album to Relapse before Relapse was even out... You think this might hurt it? Maybe if he waited for the criticism of Relapse so he could change some stuff on the sequel, it might appeal to more people? I don't really know... It just sounds kinda weird. I think it will sound very similar to Relapse. After all, he made it in the same studio sessions.

[firepower]

yes it will be equal as R1, its a sequel dammit.
I don't think Em cares about critics, so No

[Cyndi]

Maybe if he waited for the criticism of Relapse so he could change some stuff on the sequel, it might appeal to more people?

No. The day he does that is the day I stop listening to him.

That's what selling out is. People confuse selling out with 'getting bigger'. You can't help how big you get but the reason Em has never sold out is because he's always done the music HE wants to do.

If he waited for criticism and then changed the material to appeal more, that would be compromising his art for the sake of other people's opinions.

That's what fucking pop music does. Tries to appeal to as many of the great unwashed as humanly possible, along with a lot of Hollywood and other stuff by dumbing down and sacrificing being inane and tacky for the sake of more viewership.

Reason Em's music is so good is because you can tell it was made by one guy. A real artist. Pleasing himself, he's his no.1 listener and that's all that matters.

Which is also why you'll find a lot of the best stuff, in any art form is usually by one or a few people. The more it's compromised the more the quality usually goes downhill.

Some of the best comedies ever:
The Office (UK)
Extras
Monty Python
Curb Your Enthusiasm
South Park

These are all the visions of one, two or a small handful of people that see things the same way.

Em's music is clearly made by him, to entertain him, to amuse him and to satisfy him. And you can tell. Every track oozes with personal humor and energy.

Any other way would be shit.

Which is also why a lot of other rappers are shit. Because they forget that number one rule and try to second guess what people want to hear instead of just making music that THEY think is great.

But he did do a bit of ass kissin with TES & Encore. He was trying to appeal & please a new public that got sucked in by his movie. That's why he say's this is fresh & him going back not givin a fuck. Just wildin out

[Relapse.LP]

So you guys want Relapse 2 to have exactly the same overall feel as Relapse?

I rather have a fresh new sound and theme. I do not like sequels. (except books )

[Cyndi]

^^ Hmm... Not really.

You could argue he tried to... Please the fans with Encore by following a formula I guess.

But with TES that's pure him I think.

Yes you had Without Me the first 'wacky' single but that's because he still obviously wants people to hear his music and is forced to make a catchy first single to sell records.

But everything else on the record is his pure vision. "White America", "Till I Collapse", "Soldier" these songs are clearly outbursts of artistic visions not in anyway compromised.

He actually admited to that. I'll try to find the article But TES was great. I also loved Encore but u know where that goes on this thread. LOL But my fav's are MMLP TES then Relapse

[Cyndi]

He actually admited to that. I'll try to find the article

I read the article. It was the Vibe interview I think, or the Detroit one, can't remember.

What he basically said was that with Encore he started to "tone it down" as in the offensive language etc.

Which is pretty obvious from the CD.

But I think that was a good thing because he was evolving. On MMLP he was genuinely angry and you could tell.

But on TES he had matured, found new directions etc. so just gay bashing and pushing buttons wouldn't of been entertaining for another two albums.

But all I mean is. Even though it was obvious he toned it down and consciously tried to 'deliver' a little more on Encore and fulfill expectations... He didn't actually COMPROMISE anything.

All the tracks were still HIM you know. His humor, his style. Still Em.

Can't wait for R2 anyway.

Gotcha.

[Fa-Q]

R2 will be as much of a sequel to R1 as MMLP was a sequal to SSLP...I have firmly cemented in my mind that R2 will be Marshall not Shady

[ShadyVsEminem]

Id guess his albums are all based on the way he was feeling while making them.

TSLLP=Strugglin to make a name as a blonde white rapper after Vanilla Ice had basically destroyed every white rappers credibility on his own.He had to come hard with something fresh and he did.
TMMLP=A special fuck you to the critics who opposed his lyrical content.
TES=Tired of fame,no Shady and more personal than his previous 2.
Encore=Bored,definitely not giving 100%
Relapse=Rejuvenated,when his writers block cured he knew Shady was the persona to showcase his lyrical skills best.

[CrazySheyD091]

I think He should go back to his TES and the MMLP. And he should rap th evoice he used in those albums.

[ShadyVsEminem]

Well we have the Shady album so id be hoping for a Marshall/Eminem one next so if it was to be like any album id want it to be lie TES.

[James R.]

Well I haven't heard any songs from it, so no. I don't have any doubts yet, and I probably won't until I hear some singles or leaks or something... anything...

[RealSickLindley]

I'm not saying this because i'm a big Eminem fan, because while i loved it, my expectations weren't massive for Relapse.. But i think that Em's got something up his sleeve for R2. It's like Relapse was detoxing his system off all the crap from the last few years. So R2 might be more like "Right, where did i leave this shit off in 2003".

[AJS2050]

Well he hasn't completed Relapse 2 yet.

Even Though its a sequel it doesn't mean it will sound the same as Relapse 1.

And i think we shouldnt doubt it or anything untill we here it at the end of the year

[DrRapid]

I'm ok if it sounds similar but I'd really like him to release a good strong single so to grab more attention from the public really.