Dear Slim... (Suggestions Thread)

[RainMan44]

The only way we can reach Em and tell him how the fans feel (because he has this idea we hated Relapse and all that shit, don't want to get into that now).....let's use this thread.


Now, everyone, write what you think he can do better and all that. There were some threads that did this, so if you'd like, copy paste. Then, let's all make a twitter account, follow Royce, AND ALL OF US SEND THE LINK TO THIS THREAD TO HIM AT ONCE. He will open it, and who knows, maybe he will show Em?


Look, it's possible, it's worth a try.

Some of you think this is pathetic, but I don't care.


If we get good contributions like I've seen before (EminemBase makes some great points), and not insult but actually recommend, it might be worth it.


C'mon guys, it's worth a try.

[JeFFb68CAM]

I'll go first.

He should come back to Boise, Idaho.

[RainMan44]

I'll go first.

He should come back to Boise, Idaho.

Let's talk more about his rapping


EDIT: Let's not talk about useless shit on this thread, so if he does open it, he'll see from the very first page some good points.

[Master Chief]

Ehh... might as well, give it a try.

ROYCE, you better show this to Em if you see this, asshole.

Anyways...

For now, the main thing I want Em to do is to STOP saying wack lines like "put this shit in park like dog shit" or "I'm done with this shit, might as well wipe". What the fucking shit is that? Especially the latter which was on Take From Me which was an angry/emotional song. It kinda ruined the moment, if you will. If you're gonna make a pun or punchline make it clever, Marshall. I don't care if he drops the punchlines, I just want him to make them GOOD if he's gonna do it. But, of course I don't want him to over-do it either, too many punchlines can get tiresome.

So Em...

- Drop the punchlines or make them good.
- Experiment with your deliveries.
- Creative ideas/concepts.

^ Posted that in the "Concepts" thread.

[Blu]

Alright, here's what I have to say:
- Stop using the angry voice unless you are actually full of anger. Do not use fake emotions. Be real.
- No more features like, Lil Wayne, for example. Stick with Shady Records members & Royce, you 2 have good chemistry.
- Stop making the same tracks, OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Try to rap about something that's bothering you, or problems you're having. Go deep into your emotions. I loved Deja Vu, it's these types of emotional tracks I want.
- DISS MORE CELEBRITIES! Do it. C'mon, everyone loves it when you do it. Stir up controversy. But make it big, like that Lady Gaga line.

That's all I could think of for now. I'll edit this post if I can think of more.

[M-Pyre]

I support this thread.

technical side of the lyrics:

use allot more multi's, al a relapse/eminem show or mmlp and sslp for that matter.
keep the punchlines to a minimum, say, one per 4/8 bars, make them hard hitting and unique (and use something better then, in other words) ow, BME is a very good start btw!

flows/styles:
try to vary, slow ones, fast ones (not to many). no shouting unless it's like till I collapse or the way I am with real meaning behind the shouting. you can have an accent here and there... but not entire songs plz.

vocals:
I don't know what happened on bad meats evil but, it seemed that on half of the EP his vocals were a bit to soft or underwhelming, especially when compared to royce. so fix that.

concepts: make good and original concepts. one good example is stan.

inspirational songs: like lose yourself... but no corny ones like "not afraid"

and last but not least. use your own beats!!!!!

[OMEGA]

Yo Slim, my wlgga, give me a sequel to Relapse pretty please. Ok thanks bye.

[M-Pyre]

Alright, here's what I have to say:
- Stop using the angry voice unless you are actually full of anger. Do not use fake emotions. Be real.
- No more features like, Lil Wayne, for example. Stick with Shady Records members & Royce, you 2 have good chemistry.
- Stop making the same tracks, OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Try to rap about something that's bothering you, or problems you're having. Go deep into your emotions. I loved Deja Vu, it's these types of emotional tracks I want.
- DISS MORE CELEBRITIES! Do it. C'mon, everyone loves it when you do it. Stir up controversy. But make it big, like that Lady Gaga line.

That's all I could think of for now. I'll edit this post if I can think of more.

[EminemBase]

- Re-unite and produce with Bass Bros for own material.
- Work with Premo.
- Work with Hopsin.
- Work with Kanye.
- Stick to 1-3 producers for a solo album so it's not patchy and inconsistent.
- Come up with actual concepts, not just random spitting.
- Create own hooks again, stop with the samples and other people singing lark.
- Come up with actual rap hooks, such as "Who Knew" with mini-concepts / ideas to them.
- Fully commit to an album's vision / theme, don't cop-out or compromise AT ALL.
- Focus on fully dedicated, boundary pushing visuals to accompany albums.

Those are things I'd personally like to see but would I want Eminem to read my suggestions and apply them because I'm a fan and I asked? NO.

The very essence of being an artist, especially the kind he is should be to do what YOU, as the artist think is right. So even though I'd love nothing more than him rapping over Bass Bro / his own beats again, if he doesn't want that - he shouldn't do it.

But I also hate the fact he's clearly doing some things as a compromise lately even though he'd never admit it and always finds some bullshit justification such as saying Relapse was him 'coming out' of the drug phase even though he'd been sober a year at that point and gave a totally logical explanation as to why the album was like that at the time. He obviously wasn't 'buzzed' up or slap-happy.

With things such as, gathering the 'hottest' current producers and getting pop hooks to try and guarantee hits... come on Em. I like Recovery but, it's obvious.

All I want is for him to do what HE wants to do as an artist and feels inside and what makes him passionate and gives him a buzz. And that was his intention with Relapse, he even said that at the time, he said with his first two albums he didn't give a fuck what people thought, he just did the music for him and that's what he wants to do again.

Yet, as soon as he got the slightest mixed reaction to Relapse he went right back on that word and out came Recovery. An album clearly modeled on his 'safe track' of Relapse - "Beautiful" aka an emotional rock-rap ballad focusing on his hardships and tribulations. Because it was the track that got the best reaction from fans and which was the bigger hit of the album.

So, he clearly compromised. And that's the only thing I never want to see. Even if he did a style or made songs I hated, as long as I knew he absolutely was doing them for the right reasons and he himself thought they were classic - I honestly wouldn't care at all.

I'd just wait for the next shit but I'd be much happier with that than him changing his vision or compromising himself to please others. Even his fans. As that, makes him a lesser artist. And that's not what being an artist, or being Eminem, is about.

[RainMan44]

Ok, if you see, Em...

-The punchlines. They work at times, but most of the time they sound like corny Lil Wayne punches.
-The fast flow needs to stop. Actually, some people enjoy them, so I can't say that. I'd rather have just a variety of flows. Just do whatever the beat is telling you to. Like on "I'm Back" you sounded so fucking clean. Just switching up continuously. But stop attacking everything with a fast/intense flow ever since "No Love".
-MORE MULTI'S! I HATE IT when you finish off a line without a multi-syllable rhyme, it really ruins songs for me
-More hooks from YOU
-Maybe make a song about how you're pissed that your fans think they are fit to give YOU suggestions (oh, the irony)
-Stop finishing rhymes in the middle of bars or adding words at the end of a rhyme that shouldn't be there. Example: "Shawty dance while I diss you to the beat, fuck the words//You don't listen to 'em anyway, yeah struck a nerve, sucker." Most people didn't catch that you were rhyming "fuck the words" with "struck a nerve" Not saying you did something wrong. Some idiots just don't catch that.
-Wit. The wit you had in the SSLP in songs like "As The World Turns"...ok, it seems I'm asking for too much now, but just....a little wit. Examples ("I'm divorced!//Of course you are, you little fuckin' trailer park whore!" or..."Jackin' off in front of my counselors!"
-Take on other characters. like you do in 'Insane'..."Debbie don't let that fucker get you upset!"...or in "Criminal"..."Dear Lord, this boy needs Jesus!"
-Even when you'e not screaming, you still sound like you got this "pissed" undertone in your voice. (Cold Wind Blows, etc.)...make more with the "The Warning/Going Through Changes/The Reunion" voice

-Take a hit off Dre's weed. C'mon. One hit, Marshall
Jk. But if you read this -I know the chances are slim- we'll be very happy




I may be asking for too much, but fuck it

[richard]

now...
- just rap with the eminem show voice or the marshall mathers LP voice or the warning/forever voice,and NO ONE will have complaints.
-produce yourself w/ bass bros or get back on dre beats. chemistry like that is hard to come by!
-prioritize multies over wordplay...and filter whats corny and what's not

Em could probably monopolize the rap game with that 3 step guide.

[richard]

- Work with Hopsin.

better yet, sign Hopsin to Shady!

[RainMan44]

Edited the title btw. that way more people post, and if Paul or whoever actually looks at this site, they'll click this thread.

Good title change

[Amaranthine]

We should sent it to Paul, too. He's on Twitter.

I want more concept songs, songs that tell a story. Stan, Same Song & Dance, Space Bound, 3 AM, Kim, The Reunion, My Darling, etc.

Celeb bashing is awesome and hilarious. MORE! I miss that.

Also, and this might just be because I'm a girl, but the emotional songs kick major ass. Deja Vu, Going Through Changes, You're Never Over, Take From Me, Lighters, Hailie's Song, Love The Way You Lie...I'm not necessarily saying to do more of them, because I love the balance on your albums, but just please don't stop doing them.

Also, no more Lil Wayne collabs, please. Anyone but him. I mean, it's kind of funny, because you murdered him on Drop the World and No Love, but...yeah. And can we get Dre on something? I miss Dre.

[OMEGA]

The next step is to twitter spam the link to this thread to Royce Da 5'9 (since he always check twitter and is close to Em) and Paul Rosenberg.