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Pitchfork SMH.. "Eminem's Return in the Post-Kendrick Era"

Postby fifflaren » Aug 28th, '13, 16:22

I don't like how they are trying to turn that shit into a Aftermath Artist 1 vs Aftermath artist 2 :facepalm

Eminem's Return in the Post-Kendrick Era

Eminem made his inauspicious return to rap this month, announcing the release of the forthcoming MMLP2 in a short ad during MTV’s Video Music Awards on Sunday and immediately following up with “Berzerk”, the album’s lead single. “Berzerk” features production by Rick Rubin (in a year where he’s played couchside consultant for both Jay-Z and Kanye West without ever crafting a beat) that rolls Billy Squier’s hokey masturbation anthem “The Stroke” and Beastie Boys samples into a low-brow love letter to old-school rap. “Berzerk” does what nearly every Eminem lead single before it has done: bat around insults at celebrities and remind the listener that Eminem is extremely good at rhyming words without ever turning those adept lyrical gymnastics into a relatable narrative. Your taste for it will hinge on how well you can weather bloodless, sometimes wordless rhyme wizardry, cornball pop culture references (“I done did enough codeine to knock Future into tomorrow”; probably true), and the gratingly nasal singing on the chorus

The initial reactions to “Berzerk” have been withering-- a peculiar response to a record full of adroit wordplay released in the same month as Kendrick Lamar’s hotly debated “Control” verse, which called out a gaggle of rappers by name in an effort to resurrect mainstream rap’s atrophying spirit of competition. Em’s nothing if not a master level lyrical technician; you’d figure that a hip-hop-consuming public newly enamored with lyrical dexterity would give it a shot.

No such luck. In the hours since “Berzerk”’s release it has been summarily marked for trash, and Eminem accused of crotchety pining for days of old thanks to a line about bringing rap back to its essence (“Let’s take it back to straight hip-hop and start it from scratch”) that’s more about the song’s retro-classicist production than some nefarious desire to pull the whole of rap through a wormhole back to the shell-toe Adidas era. But two weeks earlier Kendrick took it upon himself to proclaim that he’s raising the bar for mainstream rap to uproarious praise. What’s different here?

Obviously the operative distinction between “Control” and “Berzerk” is qualitative; the Eminem single is goofy juvenalia while the Kendrick verse is self-serious self-mythologizing. Also worth mention is the gap between Em and Kendrick’s stations in their respective careers. One’s a forty-something veteran still rhyming like an elementary school class clown killing it in homeroom; the other, a twentysomething whiz-kid newcomer whose austere left-field hit of a breakthrough major label debut is hardly a year old. We’re intrigued by Kendrick but burned out on Em. Even though “Berzerk” is ostensibly the kind of pop-rap curio that people who hailed "Control" as a sea change for mainstream rap should at least find conceptually acceptable, it sounds like they’re just sick of Em’s sh*t.

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/54-eminem-kendrick-lamar/
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Re: Pitchfork SMH.. "Eminem's Return in the Post-Kendrick Er

Postby PAINKILLƎR » Aug 28th, '13, 16:25

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Re: Pitchfork SMH.. "Eminem's Return in the Post-Kendrick Er

Postby Trimss » Aug 28th, '13, 16:27

Pitchfork is the most hipsterish site ever. Remember they rated Yeezus higher than TES.

They called Berzerk a Pop Rap record.
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Postby King Lance » Aug 28th, '13, 16:30

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Re: Pitchfork SMH.. "Eminem's Return in the Post-Kendrick Er

Postby kkaniff » Aug 28th, '13, 16:34

Article made a lot of sense, don't let his/her "guess people are just sick of Em" put you off.
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Re: Pitchfork SMH.. "Eminem's Return in the Post-Kendrick Er

Postby Trimss » Aug 28th, '13, 16:37

kkaniff wrote:Article made a lot of sense, don't let his/her "guess people are just sick of Em" put you off.


No it didn't. They're saying people are calling the song trash while critics and the general consensus is that the song is actually good. :unsure:
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Re: Pitchfork SMH.. "Eminem's Return in the Post-Kendrick Er

Postby kkaniff » Aug 28th, '13, 16:46

There have been negative reactions. Infact, majority of INITIAL reactions outside of TRshady have been negative ish. granted those are reactions from Recovery onward Em stans a.k.a idiots and illuminati conspiracy nuts, but still.
Dunno if its just me, but the article seems complimentary, in the backhand way that is classic Pitchfork.
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Re: Pitchfork SMH.. "Eminem's Return in the Post-Kendrick Er

Postby Trimss » Aug 28th, '13, 16:50

kkaniff wrote:There have been negative reactions. Infact, majority of INITIAL reactions outside of TRshady have been negative ish. granted those are reactions from Recovery onward Em stans a.k.a idiots and illuminati conspiracy nuts, but still.


Still though, the amount of POSITIVE reactions outweights the negative reactions and it's not even close. #1 on iTunes and 3 000 000 views with a lot of likes, it has been trending on Twitter for a while now.. That didn't happen with Survivor.

It's getting a lot of good reviews, for once.
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Re: Pitchfork SMH.. "Eminem's Return in the Post-Kendrick Er

Postby Snakebeast » Aug 28th, '13, 16:50

Ahh pitchfork. You never disappoint me with your mental retardation.
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Postby Shameek » Aug 28th, '13, 16:55

Trimss wrote:
kkaniff wrote:There have been negative reactions. Infact, majority of INITIAL reactions outside of TRshady have been negative ish. granted those are reactions from Recovery onward Em stans a.k.a idiots and illuminati conspiracy nuts, but still.


Still though, the amount of POSITIVE reactions outweights the negative reactions and it's not even close. #1 on iTunes and 3 000 000 views with a lot of likes, it has been trending on Twitter for a while now.. That didn't happen with Survivor.

It's getting a lot of good reviews, for once.



Justin bieber can be #1 if he wants, Flo-Rida can be #1 if he wants..

I wouldn't say the thesis is to shit on Eminem, but rather, that hip hop fans just aren't into him anymore, regardless of him giving them what they say they want. And most of the eminem fans don't even listen to hip hop music.
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Re: Pitchfork SMH.. "Eminem's Return in the Post-Kendrick Er

Postby Snakebeast » Aug 28th, '13, 16:57

This shit made me laugh...cuz it's kind of true.

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Re: Pitchfork SMH.. "Eminem's Return in the Post-Kendrick Er

Postby Trimss » Aug 28th, '13, 16:58

^ Casual fans don't buy 4 000 000 albums. He's one of the most respected rapper still.
Again, the reaction wasn't bad and it made more noise than Survival.

Eminem is still regarded as the biggest Hip Hop icon and that's whether you like it or not. Hip Hop heads hate on Jay, Kanye but you barely see them hate on Eminem or at least not as much.

You're talking nonsense.
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Postby Phizzo Grand » Aug 28th, '13, 16:59

Pitchfork is a joke.
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Re: Pitchfork SMH.. "Eminem's Return in the Post-Kendrick Er

Postby kkaniff » Aug 28th, '13, 17:01

I actually follow Pitchfork *lynch me* but I like what I like. Got a feeling Pitchfork is going to love this album.
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Postby Trimss » Aug 28th, '13, 17:02

kkaniff wrote:I actually follow Pitchfork *lynch me* but I like what I like. Got a feeling Pitchfork is going to love this album.


P4k is gonna pan the shit out of MMLP2. They might give him a rating under 2.8 actually.
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