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Best Political song?

Postby murphmanny » Nov 19th, '09, 00:00

What you guys thing is his best lyrically political song?
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Re: Best Political song?

Postby embm » Nov 19th, '09, 01:02

both ^^^
in a way defence obie outro cuz it talks abt war & Bush
also we as americans
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Re: Best Political song?

Postby BayAreaLegend » Nov 19th, '09, 01:03

we as Americans is alright, not my favorite though :smoking:
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Re: Best Political song?

Postby wrestler1256 » Nov 19th, '09, 01:05

BayAreaLegend wrote:we as Americans is alright, not my favorite though :smoking:

we as americans is dope
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Re: Best Political song?

Postby Wic Kid » Nov 19th, '09, 01:43

wrestler1256 wrote:
BayAreaLegend wrote:we as Americans is alright, not my favorite though :smoking:

we as americans is dope


We As Americans is an extraordinary song. :y:
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Re: Best Political song?

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Nov 19th, '09, 01:44

Rap Game!

"I'm all 4 America, fuck the government/ tell that C. Dolores Tucker slut to suck a dick"

We as Americans is one of his best I think, too.
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Re: Best Political song?

Postby Evan C. » Nov 19th, '09, 01:47

White America, even though politics isn't even really what whole song is about.

Mosh blows, and We As Americans isn't really political either.
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Re: Best Political song?

Postby Renee7931 » Nov 19th, '09, 01:48

MeathookSodomy wrote:Rap Game!

"I'm all 4 America, fuck the government"

We as Americans is one of his best I think, too.


Love that line! I really like Mosh. We as Americans is a good song, but the anger in Mosh held my attention.
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Re: Best Political song?

Postby AJS2050 » Nov 19th, '09, 01:48

mosh, that beat just stays in your head.
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Re: Best Political song?

Postby Emadyville » Nov 19th, '09, 01:52

Adam Quinn wrote:Mosh was good but I'd say "White America" if you're talking about lyrical


yeah white america if strictly lyrical, tho i think this is 100 times better than mosh in every aspect. we as americans wasnt that political but was dope too :smoking:
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Re: Best Political song?

Postby Wic Kid » Nov 19th, '09, 02:03

White America is by far his best political song. He says so much in it. When I bought TES, this was my favorite song by Em. I found an article long time ago about White America. I really wanted to see what was he actually talkin bout. So if by any chance some of you wanna read it, here it is. Its quite interesting, I must say.

"White America" is a song in which Eminem creates many contradictions to show inconsistencies in the American social structure. These contradictions are important because they reveal a critical flaw in the American society that disillusions both immigrants and natives into thinking America is a leveled playing field for capitalistic ventures. In his introduction, Eminem makes a contradictory comparison that later becomes apparent in the second part of the verse, describing America as "the stripes and the stars for the rights men have died for to protect/ The women and men who have broke their necks for the freedom of speech the United States government has sworn to uphold". The first line is written closely in anapestic pentameter, meaning two unstressed syllables followed by a stressed syllable in a 5 foot line (Annis, par. 8-11), with stress put on "stripes" and "stars" which creates an image of patriotism. Whizzing sounds can be heard in the background of the song, reminiscent of the "rocket’s red glare" in the national anthem or the sound of the Blue Angels F-16s fighter jets, a military symbol of America. The next three stressed words "rights", "died", and "protect" reminds Americans of the sacrifices the country had to make to receive such rights as "the freedom of speech the United States government has sworn to uphold"; to appreciate these rights since they are here due to the sacrifices of many "women and men". Eminem addresses the dominant narrative in the United States that all Americans possess these natural rights - notice that the government’s job is to "protect" ‘and "uphold" these rights meaning they were pre-existent and not "given", which would mean that they were nonexistent before. So being an American automatically means equitable treatment as other Americans. Eminem uses this fact to begin to show the "hypocrisy of democrac" or what Lisa Lowe calls the "existence of exclusions…by the promise of inclusion" (529). "Or so it’s told…" Eminem starts as he tells a fragment of the opposition narrative

"White America" is a very important song because Eminem is one of the few artists today willing to address an oppositional narrative. A sample of 5 songs in the December 13th Billboard Top 100 songs all contain clichéd topics such as finding love and boasts about fame (Billboard). Because of the rarity of such an address, Eminem’s song becomes critical in properly representing a narrative that affects so many people. The title "White America" is interesting since all Americans are not white, and not all white people are Americans. This causes the listener, who can be of any ethnicity, to ask: "What is White America?" Is it addressing the fact that America is demographically white dominated? Or is it that sources of power are held by white people? Eminem’s implication becomes apparent as the latter after verse two in which he states "look at these eyes, baby blue, baby just like yourself, if they were brown Shady lose, Shady sits on the shelf." Commercial power, the lyrics imply, is held by the "blue" eyed people and are in control of the capital. Meanwhile, the "brown" eyed are certain to "lose" and "sits on the shelf". Eminem goes on to illustrate this point in the same verse by saying, "if I was black I would've sold half", further implying the lack of capitalistic power of the black ethnic group. Eminem exposes the cultural hegemony present in the United States and by doing so he exposes a contradiction in the American society. The capitalist system is defined by the Fourth Edition American Heritage Dictionary as: "an economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market." According to the dominant narrative capitalism advocates equal distribution of rights with "proportional" business development in a "free market". The system, however, does not offer an explanation for the racism and unequal capitalistic representation experienced by the black community. In Lowe’s essay, the Korean women in Sa-I-Gu experience a similar situation where they fail to find an explanation for what happens to them in the capitalist
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Re: Best Political song?

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Nov 19th, '09, 02:09

That is a fantastic article.
The blue eyed reference might be an allusion to the Aryan race. Interesting implication.
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Re: Best Political song?

Postby Emadyville » Nov 19th, '09, 03:33

MeathookSodomy wrote:That is a fantastic article.


Word up, real interesting :y: :y:
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Re: Best Political song?

Postby Bistnal » Nov 19th, '09, 04:51

That was an interesting article, Wic_Kid. Deep. I think that that song is his best political song w/ his verse on Rap Game & We as Americans tying for #2.
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Re: Best Political song?

Postby Wreck » Nov 19th, '09, 05:50

Evan C. wrote:White America, even though politics isn't even really what whole song is about.

Mosh blows, and We As Americans isn't really political either.


he talks about politics in the whole 2nd verse. all 3 verses don't have to have the word government in it, or all 3 verses don't have to be focused around and about politics.
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