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Mosh in R2

Postby GiuseppeMathers » Dec 29th, '09, 17:52

i wish a song like mosh in R2 that do a lot of confusion in the USA and also in the rest of the world
what do you think?
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Re: Mosh in R2

Postby DƎRDYPK » Dec 29th, '09, 17:53

he will have it covered...hopefully :unsure:
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Re: Mosh in R2

Postby Raquel » Dec 29th, '09, 18:04

Totally agree. Mosh was the best/one of the best songs n Encore imo.
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Re: Mosh in R2

Postby slimsoxshady » Dec 29th, '09, 18:06

except he supports Obama
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Re: Mosh in R2

Postby TiBon » Dec 29th, '09, 18:07

Yeah, something like Mosh/White America would be great.
But I prefer the way Ice Cube present the politic problems than Eminem's way.
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Re: Mosh in R2

Postby EminemBase » Dec 29th, '09, 18:16

"Mosh" is one of his most underrated, best songs to date.

So many try to be political and fail. A lot of rappers actually succeed because they're not up their own asses, they're just trying to get their views out, poetically and originally. Where as pop-stars have an agenda and image so they do it awfully.

But man, well, the only flaw would be the first verse. Again, a largely irrelevant 1st verse he feels he needs to introduce himself and his past constantly lol.

But the 2nd and 3rd verses are fantastic. Modern, seething poetry and beautiful heights. And his passion and flow are really very good ineeeeed. Not to mention the thumping, marching nature of it. Superb chorus too.

I would of loved for Encore to have followed this theme. It was the natural progression from The Eminem Show. He even half-fulfilled it with "We As Americans" too. He started war-talk on TES, that should of been the next step, to make Encore a real progression.

But he felt the need to throw in silly shit to try and please fans. Mixed album. But this song was, in my opinion, a true representation of where he was at artistically in 2004. Quite obviously, not lacking.

I would love for Relapse 2 to have political themes. I normally don't like rap to get too bogged down... Well, the key rule is, isit good. If the views on politics, whether I agree with them OR not are articulately and originally presented, it's all good. Like I disagree with some of Mos Def's views and in some senses think he's a racist but the way he presents the views, is fantastic. So it doesn't matter.

I just don't want R2 to be silly or quaky. Which Mr. Porter said it ain't anyway so. Can't wait.
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Re: Mosh in R2

Postby AJS2050 » Dec 29th, '09, 18:28

Mosh is awesome
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Re: Mosh in R2

Postby whtcrack » Dec 29th, '09, 19:01

slimsoxshady wrote:except he supports Obama


alot of people that were supporting him arent anymore.... After he spent more money, or added more to the debt, however you want to look at it , in one year than Bush did in 8.... so maybe he's changed his mind..
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Re: Mosh in R2

Postby GiuseppeMathers » Dec 29th, '09, 19:07

yes but why do he talk about obama?
there is the crisis (idk how to say in english sorry :sweating:)
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Re: Mosh in R2

Postby slimsoxshady » Dec 29th, '09, 19:08

But Eminem is a rapper, a historically black art form. If he talks shit about Obama, people are gonna say he's racist.
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Re: Mosh in R2

Postby dR3 » Dec 29th, '09, 19:09

Mosh was excellent, but I don't see a song like this on R2, but we'll see.
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Re: Mosh in R2

Postby whtcrack » Dec 29th, '09, 19:10

slimsoxshady wrote:But Eminem is a rapper, a historically black art form. If he talks shit about Obama, people are gonna say he's racist.


word... good point.. :y:
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Re: Mosh in R2

Postby GiuseppeMathers » Dec 29th, '09, 19:15

slimsoxshady wrote:But Eminem is a rapper, a historically black art form. If he talks shit about Obama, people are gonna say he's racist.

yes
GiuseppeMathers wrote:yes but why do he talk about obama?
there is the crisis (idk how to say in english sorry :sweating:)

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Re: Mosh in R2

Postby EminemBase » Dec 29th, '09, 19:28

slimsoxshady wrote:But Eminem is a rapper, a historically black art form. If he talks shit about Obama, people are gonna say he's racist.


Lmao what.

It's not racist to talk about somebody lmfao. Even if it were detrimental which it won't be anyway as he happens to support Obama...

But even if he said "OBAMA IS A CUNT", that's not racist. Are you saying you too would think it's racist to talk about Obama or just saying idiots would? Because if idiots would... Then they would. You can't go around altering art for idiots. We wouldn't of gotten this far.

Also what does Obama have to do with hip-hop lmao. This is this other... Positive discrimination, I have to say most prominent in America, thank goodness I'm British. As if Obama is not only a spokesmen for all black people but for black originated art-forms too...

Also, I'm sick of hearing it's a black art-form... We know. I'm not having a go at you by the way, just the people who constantly feel the need to remind us.

Imagine if white people did that with everything. Eminem doesn't need to apologize for doing hip-hop, neither does he need to be eternally greatful that they let him do it haha. That idea is like saying Jimmy Hendrix could of been taken as racist for talking about Lyndon B. Johnson in the 60's, especially given that rock is essentially WHITE! OH NO.

It's not racist to talk about race. It's not racist to even use racial slurrs. They only become racist in context and racism is irrational hatred and discrimination of a race, purely for the race. It's not racist to hate a black person, for personal reasons, or a white person and yaddaaa yaaaada.

This crazy irrational nonsense should stop.
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Re: Mosh in R2

Postby embm » Dec 29th, '09, 19:32

yea tat wud be awesom :y:
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