MMLP2 is NOT a classic.

[kkaniff]

@Troll cheers man.
@classtheking Eh, okay.

[King Lance]

An opinion is just an opinion until it's supported by facts, you know, like the ones I posted in the OP defending my claim that MMLP2 is a classic.

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[Hopsinshadie]

I'm stronger than I WASSSSSSSSS

[RSoares]

UUGGGGGGGHHHHH

[Lowdownandshifty]

Troll
I'm going to do the forum equivalent of talking real slow for your retarded ass.
I. Asked. Why. We. Should. Give. A. Fuck. About. His. Opinion.
And preceding that statement was "why is it average?".
An opinion is just an opinion until it's supported by facts, you know, like the ones I posted in the OP defending my claim that MMLP2 is a classic.
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Again, why is it average? So far the only reason he has given is his opinion. Then I ask, why should I give a fuck about your unpopular opinion?
Where are the reasons, the facts?
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And critics also think MMLP is an average album, check Metacritic, doesn't mean it's not an extremely fuckin' unpopular opinion though.

Only on this forum does the MMLP2 get called a classic, everywhere else its either average or a good album. One reason Its average because it has absolutely almost zero impact on popular culture, when the year is up and all the news broadcasters do there 2013 recap or or in 10 years from now they look back on 2013, I'm fairly confident MMLP2 wont be mentioned. SSLP and MMLP are two albums which are pure hip-pop lyrical talent that that had a major impact during there time even his 'haters' also known as Kanye fans reluctantly call them classics. The MMLP2 is just a simple revistation to his glory days when his singles where as good as the rest of his album. The best parts of this album was when he quoted the MMLP . the best part of RAP GOD was when he did the uncensored columbine line, the best part of bad guy was when he said "chauvinist pig drove in this big Lincoln Town Car" in his classic slim shady voice. Eminem is paying homage to his true classic and you need to reconise that a revistation album with weak singles cannot be a classic.

[RSoares]

Rap God is a weak single?

[shadyblogger]

What kind of bullshit is this?

[kkaniff]

"One
reason Its average because it has
absolutely almost zero impact on
popular culture"
*No 1 single in the country.
*Broke The Beatles Billboard record
*Seventh consecutive No 1 album in the U.K ( equalling or exceeding The Beatles, not sure)
*780k first week
*Two 2x platinum singles
*Nominated for Grammy for best rap.performance.
*3 perfect scores from critics.
*#RapGod was the number 1 hip-hop trend on Twitter for 2013.
*2nd most mentioned hip-hop artist on Twitter 2013.
*Runner up for Hip-Hop Dx Verse of The Year.
*2nd best selling album of the year after only a month's sales.
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Do you feel stupid yet?

[UofLCard]

It may not be 'classic', but it's sure as hell a better effort than the previous three LPs.

[Lowdownandshifty]

"One
reason Its average because it has
absolutely almost zero impact on
popular culture"
*No 1 single in the country.
*Broke The Beatles Billboard record
*Seventh consecutive No 1 album in the U.K ( equalling or exceeding The Beatles, not sure)
*780k first week
*Two 2x platinum singles
*Nominated for Grammy for best rap.performance.
*3 perfect scores from critics.
*#RapGod was the number 1 hip-hop trend on Twitter for 2013.
*2nd most mentioned hip-hop artist on Twitter 2013.
*Runner up for Hip-Hop Dx Verse of The Year.
*2nd best selling album of the year after only a month's sales.
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Do you feel stupid yet?

Sales don't mean anything unfortunately that's a product of huge Marketing and Eminem's being a household brand name almost, his guaranteed to sell no less then 600k whatever he releases. Eminem does not need Rhianna to make no.1 hits but certainly her name and LTWYL has kept it up there longer then he could by himself. Ciritics dont mean anything they have never been important in the past to Eminem or his fans, so the perfect and favorable scores are the product of what of been noticing a lot in reviews and thats the notion that eminem has supposedly MATURED, the critics have always hated on Eminem bashing on his mother, Kim etc etc so the perfect scores are just critics happy that Eminem has stopped most of his shenanigans. Encore won a lot of awards........once again eminem is a HUGE BRAND NAME he will win awards and break sales no what like he has done with Encore, Relapse and Recovery. This does not mean anything though. Rap God might be the only thing worth remembering out of Eminem this year in the next few years. Its a nice album but people are giving to way to much credit and are trying to force it as a classic down people throats when it hasnt even been a few months. Does eminem still have a classic up his sleeve ? i think he does but he needs to do something totally new and different.

[kkaniff]

You are so wrong that I can't even make fun of you.
1. If sales, Twitter trends, Billboard records do not constitute impact on pop culture, then what the fuck does?
2. You're really going with the "critics love MM2 because Em matured" huh.
Did you see HipHopDx's retarded reason for bashing MM2, AbsolutePunk, HuffPost, or damn near every gay/gay affiliated critic with an axe to grind.
Your reason makes no sense fam.
3. What huge marketing?
4. MMLP2 has both critical and commercial sucess thus making it classic material to me.
5. Are you a Kanye Stan?

[Lowdownandshifty]

You are so wrong that I can't even make fun of you.
1. If sales, Twitter trends, Billboard records do not constitute impact on pop culture, then what the fuck does?
2. You're really going with the "critics love MM2 because Em matured" huh.
Did you see HipHopDx's retarded reason for bashing MM2, AbsolutePunk, HuffPost, or damn near every gay/gay affiliated critic with an axe to grind.
Your reason makes no sense fam.
3. What huge marketing?
4. MMLP2 has both critical and commercial sucess thus making it classic material to me.
5. Are you a Kanye Stan?

Decided by real hip-pop groups, Its not tangible and it cannot be measured by sales numbers, its more like a general consensus among a vast diversity of legitimate groups not critics but hip-pop fans (vast influx of teenage girls loving the new Monster and Stronger then i was track does not count). For instance Kendricks Lamar's album Good Kid Maad City just the way it was styled and put together received praise by many artists like The Game, Nas and Eminem and got a lot of attention for being a refreshing concept album. A quality album that was influential and memorable and many people will commemorate it as a defining part of that generation of music the same way MMLP and TES did back in the day (makings of a classic). Thats why we wait 10 or so years to class an album as a classic, because if all these groups are still talking about it like it was yesterday well then its confirmed. Same way eminems first three albums get talked about on every hip-pop forum in a positive manner like they were released just a year ago.

Not a Kanye Stan Im a 1999-2002 Eminem Stan.

[kkaniff]

I'm not sure I know what we're talking about anymore.

[Ubb]

You are so wrong that I can't even make fun of you.
1. If sales, Twitter trends, Billboard records do not constitute impact on pop culture, then what the fuck does?
2. You're really going with the "critics love MM2 because Em matured" huh.
Did you see HipHopDx's retarded reason for bashing MM2, AbsolutePunk, HuffPost, or damn near every gay/gay affiliated critic with an axe to grind.
Your reason makes no sense fam.
3. What huge marketing?
4. MMLP2 has both critical and commercial sucess thus making it classic material to me.
5. Are you a Kanye Stan?

Decided by real hip-pop groups, Its not tangible and it cannot be measured by sales numbers, its more like a general consensus among a vast diversity of legitimate groups not critics but hip-pop fans (vast influx of teenage girls loving the new Monster and Stronger then i was track does not count). For instance Kendricks Lamar's album Good Kid Maad City just the way it was styled and put together received praise by many artists like The Game, Nas and Eminem and got a lot of attention for being a refreshing concept album. A quality album that was influential and memorable and many people will commemorate it as a defining part of that generation of music the same way MMLP and TES did back in the day (makings of a classic). Thats why we wait 10 or so years to class an album as a classic, because if all these groups are still talking about it like it was yesterday well then its confirmed. Same way eminems first three albums get talked about on every hip-pop forum in a positive manner like they were released just a year ago.

Not a Kanye Stan Im a 1999-2002 Eminem Stan.

I hate those people

[kkaniff]

Still sounds wonderful.
Fourth classic, bitches.