Bad Meets Evil- Lighters (FULL SONG)

[xnoxiousx]

wow. awful. this has to be the worst ive ever heard eminem flow. really bad. and although royces flow is good, his lyrics suck. wtf happened here? this had potential to be really good. and no, im not one of those people who complain about everything eminem puts out, i loved most of his recent shit. this is just whack though.

[richard]

I don't even mind the track bar the hook but on a Bad Meets Evil album it's just out of context or, presented wrong at least. That hook on this album is ridiculous. With that kind of name, and the imagery they create in the head, and the album cover etc. - a certain tone is expected and that hook / feel is totally contradictory to that.

^Man, a lot of people wanted a track where Em and Royce talk about their positions in the game, coming up, and lack of respect, and they got it.

To say it's out of place on a Bad Meets Evil album is to set expectations of the album mostly based on the moniker "Bad Meets Evil." If you had never heard the name "Eminem" before you would probably expect his raps to be the exact opposite of what they are, judging from that name.

It's not a concept album. It's Eminem and Royce Da 5'9" and this song is suitable.

Why is it relevant what people wanted. What I said has nothing to do with that.

It doesn't fit Bad Meets Evil. Bad Meets Evil are a group where neither Eminem nor Royce are themselves, they're part of a duo and a conceptual duo at that. So the very fact it's a Bad Meets Evil album makes it a conceptual album.

I didn't say I wanted a concept throughout the album, I said I want concepts or creativity, just in general. Just ideas, decent track ideas.

That totally 'up' Bruno chorus sounds TOTALLY out of place and absurd on a BME project. And almost every single person who saw the track list, who I saw, online, assumed that he'd be out of place.

BME are supposed to exist in their 'own sound' and own little evil / crazy / lyrical world. That's what all the other (even recent ones) BME tracks sound like. This doesn't. This is just Eminem rapping about himself as he would on a solo album then Royce rapping about Em. And Bruno breaks the usual wall of fiction, and makes it sound realistic and broad.

This is Eminem feat. Royce, not Bad Meets Evil.

Regardless of whether you like or dislike Bruno, it's not even about that. It just doesn't fit. He's a happy, broad singer with a very broad, innocent voice. His tone and voice is not suitable with Bad Meets Evil, which is supposed to be dark and hardcore.

It's relevant what people wanted because you yourself are talking about what you want - concepts, etc.

There is a concept here - Em talks about coming up, even though some of it was in reference to recent years. The general takeaway is still that the 'haters' throughout his career pushed him further. Royce has a lot of looking back and reflection/comparison of the past to the present, though his verse may be more scattered.

Have you heard the other singers on this album? The 'Echo' chorus is straight pop, and it sounds like the Claret Jai hook will be just the same. They all have an innocent voice with that broad appeal.

Would you rather they release the album as "Eminem & Royce Da 5'9" so that people don't get the wrong idea? Don't think so...Old BME songs were recorded over a decade ago, to expect the concept of BME to be the same is a little silly.

Fast Lane wasn't all that dark IMO. If they were a bunch of Roman's Revenge type of tracks, that would be dark.

Take it for what it is - a bunch of songs that they didn't have to nor did they intend to release as an EP. No complaints from me.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

EmBase never said the song DIDN'T have a concept...because it does. He was saying this type of song shouldn't be on the EP, especially after hearing the other songs from the snippets, because it doesn't go with the Bad Meets Evil theme. Which I agree, it doesn't go with it at all. Doesn't mean I don't like it, the more I listen the more it grows on me.

[Asd-ONE]

I've been listening to it non-stop since it leaked. That was 3 hours ago, damn I gotta stop.

[Asd-ONE]

I've been listening to it non-stop since it leaked. That was 3 hours ago, damn I gotta stop.

Same as me B...I love it!!!!

It's funny how I still have kamil's video open and they took it down about 2 hours ago

[Blake]

The song is amazing and does it just sound like me or is eminem slurring his words a little because to me it sounds sorta like an 07 08 voice?

[Reaktion]

I think this was pretty good.

Fast Lane > Lighters > I'm On Everything.

I thought IOE would eventually grow on me, but it hasn't.

[Wreck]

Feeling this mucho. Hook's cool, nice relaxing beat by Em/Smeezingtons. Em's verse was good. Royce's was good too, I think his verse was better then Em's tbh, but it's close. Royce's was real shit, and lyrical.

Good concept too, good shit. Catchy too.

[EminemBase]

It's relevant what people wanted because you yourself are talking about what you want - concepts, etc.

No, I responded to TheGentlePlayer who said to me "what do you want" and then asked if I'd like to hear them just 'rap about how bad they are'. So that's why I said, no, I want creativity and explained what I, as a fan would like from the project. And, artists.

That's not relevant to if this song fits the project in tone.

There is a concept here - Em talks about coming up, even though some of it was in reference to recent years. The general takeaway is still that the 'haters' throughout his career pushed him further. Royce has a lot of looking back and reflection/comparison of the past to the present, though his verse may be more scattered.

That's not a concept. If it is then you could use that same token for practically anything.

You could say "The Way I Am" is a concept because it's about his refusal to compromise or deliver to Interscope what they want in a 1st single etc. but, it's not. It's emotion. His emotion may of arose from that but, it's introspection, it's psychology. It's personal.

It's not a conceptual track with an idea that is executed and committed to. "97 Bonnie and Clyde" is a concept track.

Have you heard the other singers on this album? The 'Echo' chorus is straight pop, and it sounds like the Claret Jai hook will be just the same. They all have an innocent voice with that broad appeal.

"Echo" is on the deluxe version, not the standard / one which is the 'official' / main one. But, that chorus sounds fine. That females voice has a stronger undertone to it and it still manages to cling to their dark lyrical themes and fit, to my ears.

Where as Bruno's voice just sounds so light and breezy that anything he's on sounds like it should be played on a summer's day with a glass of juice. With a smile. Which is why it's totally out of place on a Bad Meets Evil project.

Would you rather they release the album as "Eminem & Royce Da 5'9" so that people don't get the wrong idea? Don't think so...Old BME songs were recorded over a decade ago, to expect the concept of BME to be the same is a little silly.

No, I'd rather they only put Bad Meets Evil tracks on a BME project. Like Royce said, most of these tracks were made with no aim.

This track, could of been made with Em as the solo artist and Royce as the feature (likely). Which is not the same as them as a duo, playing as Bad Meets Evil. So, they should use some quality control and not just slap things together for the sake of it.

And, there is no set 'concept' of BME, except Royce is Bad and Eminem is Evil and they're basically public menaces, anti-everything, who use their lyrical imagination to take aim at everything around them in creatively comical ways. That's not exactly a concept is it, it's just what they do.

That's not what they do on this song. Eminem is Eminem and he's rapping about his life as he would on a solo album. And Royce is rapping about Em and the whole thing is self-serious and not Bad Meets Evil. If they're going to just do what they would do when NOT Bad Meets Evil, there's no point in even calling themselves that.

I don't expect their STYLE (and wouldn't want it to be) the same after 10 years. I want growth and originality. And that's what I'm getting in their new style(s) on say "Fast Lane". This chorus sounds ridiculous amongst the other dark tones, it'll be a one-off stand-out track just like "Beautiful" on Relapse. It's an after-thought and it's out of place.

Fast Lane wasn't all that dark IMO. If they were a bunch of Roman's Revenge type of tracks, that would be dark.

Take it for what it is - a bunch of songs that they didn't have to nor did they intend to release as an EP. No complaints from me.

It's not about the material being dark. It's more about character. About being in character and playing around lyrically, riffing... and, "Lighters" is not that. "Lighters" is an Eminem track featuring Royce.

And once they decided to do their EP, they should of then did more tracks aimed at the EP then. I'm not even complaining about the EP anyway, I haven't heard it and most the tracks sound right. I'm talking about this ONE SONG. So what are you talking about.

[ShadyVsEminem]

EmBase never said the song DIDN'T have a concept...because it does. He was saying this type of song shouldn't be on the EP, especially after hearing the other songs from the snippets, because it doesn't go with the Bad Meets Evil theme. Which I agree, it doesn't go with it at all. Doesn't mean I don't like it, the more I listen the more it grows on me.

When they were recording they were just making songs they didnt have an ep or anything in mind so the songs might not all sound cohesive.

I dont know why he has almost given up doing hooks aswell as Beats himself, he might not even have 1 hook on the EP

There are no more surprises as far as who he collabs with now unless its Ja Rule or Benzino

[xxTrigger1989xx]

EmBase never said the song DIDN'T have a concept...because it does. He was saying this type of song shouldn't be on the EP, especially after hearing the other songs from the snippets, because it doesn't go with the Bad Meets Evil theme. Which I agree, it doesn't go with it at all. Doesn't mean I don't like it, the more I listen the more it grows on me.

When they were recording they were just making songs they didnt have an ep or anything in mind so the songs might not all sound cohesive.

I dont know why he has almost given up doing hooks aswell as Beats himself, he might not even have 1 hook on the EP

There are no more surprises as far as who he collabs with now unless its Ja Rule or Benzino

Well, they were in a certain mind state during recording this obviously, because judging from the snippets, this EP sounds like it will be more cohesive than we thought it would be...the songs do sound similar, except for Lighters. I don't have a problem with the collaboration, Bruno was dope, and the beat is alright. Better than some Recovery tracks.

Plus, they are rapping as Bad and Evil during this EP. They say it during one of their interviews, and you can hear it in I'm On Everything the way they keep referring to themselves as that.

[EminemBase]

EmBase never said the song DIDN'T have a concept...because it does. He was saying this type of song shouldn't be on the EP, especially after hearing the other songs from the snippets, because it doesn't go with the Bad Meets Evil theme. Which I agree, it doesn't go with it at all. Doesn't mean I don't like it, the more I listen the more it grows on me.

When they were recording they were just making songs they didnt have an ep or anything in mind so the songs might not all sound cohesive.

I dont know why he has almost given up doing hooks aswell as Beats himself, he might not even have 1 hook on the EP

There are no more surprises as far as who he collabs with now unless its Ja Rule or Benzino

Well, they were in a certain mind state during recording this obviously, because judging from the snippets, this EP sounds like it will be more cohesive than we thought it would be...the songs do sound similar, except for Lighters.

Exactly. This song is clearly an after-thought or left-over from a diff session IMO.

Just feels like it's tacked-on to be a hit and ensure a certain amount of commercial success for the EP, which would be fine if it wasn't so out of place.

[Manly Moose]

I'm getting the feeling that the people that do like this song are gonna overplay it over the next few days. You guys are are gonna end up sick of this song by the time the EP comes out.

[richard]

It's relevant what people wanted because you yourself are talking about what you want - concepts, etc.

No, I responded to TheGentlePlayer who said to me "what do you want" and then asked if I'd like to hear them just 'rap about how bad they are'. So that's why I said, no, I want creativity and explained what I, as a fan would like from the project. And, artists.

That's not relevant to if this song fits the project in tone.

There is a concept here - Em talks about coming up, even though some of it was in reference to recent years. The general takeaway is still that the 'haters' throughout his career pushed him further. Royce has a lot of looking back and reflection/comparison of the past to the present, though his verse may be more scattered.

That's not a concept. If it is then you could use that same token for practically anything.

You could say "The Way I Am" is a concept because it's about his refusal to compromise or deliver to Interscope what they want in a 1st single etc. but, it's not. It's emotion. His emotion may of arose from that but, it's introspection, it's psychology. It's personal.

It's not a conceptual track with an idea that is executed and committed to. "97 Bonnie and Clyde" is a concept track.

Have you heard the other singers on this album? The 'Echo' chorus is straight pop, and it sounds like the Claret Jai hook will be just the same. They all have an innocent voice with that broad appeal.

"Echo" is on the deluxe version, not the standard / one which is the 'official' / main one. But, that chorus sounds fine. That females voice has a stronger undertone to it and it still manages to cling to their dark lyrical themes and fit, to my ears.

Where as Bruno's voice just sounds so light and breezy that anything he's on sounds like it should be played on a summer's day with a glass of juice. With a smile. Which is why it's totally out of place on a Bad Meets Evil project.

Would you rather they release the album as "Eminem & Royce Da 5'9" so that people don't get the wrong idea? Don't think so...Old BME songs were recorded over a decade ago, to expect the concept of BME to be the same is a little silly.

No, I'd rather they only put Bad Meets Evil tracks on a BME project. Like Royce said, most of these tracks were made with no aim.

This track, could of been made with Em as the solo artist and Royce as the feature (likely). Which is not the same as them as a duo, playing as Bad Meets Evil. So, they should use some quality control and not just slap things together for the sake of it.

And, there is no set 'concept' of BME, except Royce is Bad and Eminem is Evil and they're basically public menaces, anti-everything, who use their lyrical imagination to take aim at everything around them in creatively comical ways. That's not exactly a concept is it, it's just what they do.

That's not what they do on this song. Eminem is Eminem and he's rapping about his life as he would on a solo album. And Royce is rapping about Em and the whole thing is self-serious and not Bad Meets Evil. If they're going to just do what they would do when NOT Bad Meets Evil, there's no point in even calling themselves that.

I don't expect their STYLE (and wouldn't want it to be) the same after 10 years. I want growth and originality. And that's what I'm getting in their new style(s) on say "Fast Lane". This chorus sounds ridiculous amongst the other dark tones, it'll be a one-off stand-out track just like "Beautiful" on Relapse. It's an after-thought and it's out of place.

Fast Lane wasn't all that dark IMO. If they were a bunch of Roman's Revenge type of tracks, that would be dark.

Take it for what it is - a bunch of songs that they didn't have to nor did they intend to release as an EP. No complaints from me.

It's not about the material being dark. It's more about character. About being in character and playing around lyrically, riffing... and, "Lighters" is not that. "Lighters" is an Eminem track featuring Royce.

And once they decided to do their EP, they should of then did more tracks aimed at the EP then. I'm not even complaining about the EP anyway, I haven't heard it and most the tracks sound right. I'm talking about this ONE SONG. So what are you talking about.

Yay, my first EminemBase essay

Too bad I...


You must be a lot of fun at parties

[Asd-ONE]

I'm getting the feeling that the people that do like this song are gonna overplay it over the next few days. You guys are are gonna end up sick of this song by the time the EP comes out.

Maybe. But until then I'll be loving it.

I have over 500 plays of Love You More and still love that song.