The Fall of Eminem

[Sam.]

the only point in the whole thing that was worth is the mention of the fact that his collab with pop stars ,rest was

right, and not even this. I mean the fact that he use rihanna on a song doesn´t mean he is a sell out..

the rest of this article is ridiculous to me, maybe the ice tea thing was weird ,ok, but it was funny,I guess that´s why he did it..we can´t compare this to have his own perfume for example,like many artists do...

and "botox infused face"??? I´m tired of this..but anyway,In any close-up picture of him you can see some little wrinkles and definitely he can gesticulate..so where is the botox? take a look of any picture of nicole kidman to see how botox really looks..

he is 38 right now (not 40 btw) he can´t be the old eminem with dyed hair and full of pills.People grow.

everybody has high expectations when it comes to him,but I think he is doing really well..

yep cool thoughts gurl

[mecuryball]

right, and not even this. I mean the fact that he use rihanna on a song doesn´t mean he is a sell out..

the rest of this article is ridiculous to me, maybe the ice tea thing was weird ,ok, but it was funny,I guess that´s why he did it..we can´t compare this to have his own perfume for example,like many artists do...

and "botox infused face"??? I´m tired of this..but anyway,In any close-up picture of him you can see some little wrinkles and definitely he can gesticulate..so where is the botox? take a look of any picture of nicole kidman to see how botox really looks..

he is 38 right now (not 40 btw) he can´t be the old eminem with dyed hair and full of pills.People grow.

everybody has high expectations when it comes to him,but I think he is doing really well..

i agree with everything you wrote

[christalgurl]

I hate people that don't expect people to evolve. I don't act the same as I did in '99, neither does the author of this article and neither does Eminem. If the writer of this article really expects the gritty, poor, and angry Eminem to stay the same throughout his career and act the same way for 12 years, then he's insane. About the Lipton's Tea commercial, I applaud Eminem for making a buck outside of his music, God knows he has NOT done it through out his entire career. I bet every year they ask him to do the Superbowl halftime show, but he turns it down. And in his 12 year career span he's done a total of two commercials. Eminem is definitely the most hated and scrutinized artist since Michael Jackson. I'm sick of fans that don't stick it out through thick and thin. That stays with him through Touchdown and Peepshow until 25 To Life and Music Box. Fuck this author.

Thank you. Fans should try being loyal.

[MikeNUFC]

yeah, dat author is idiot cuz he criticised da eminemz while giving details isnt it yo

eminem is matured cuz he now has daughter and he old man iznt it. in da first few albums he wasnt mature and made songs like hailies song and stan wich showz immaturityz isnt it. now he makez songz like cold windz blowz which shows maturity isnt it - saying slut lots of times in a verze showz maturity isnt it. also not afraid showz maturityz in his lyrics cuz he usez terriblez punchlines and makes melodramatic song isnt it which showz more maturity den rockz bottomz isnt it.

tldr - Eminem was a more mature lyricist and rapper on his first few albums than he is now. Piss off with that mature bullshit.

By the way, this point stuck on mostly in the article (which was very well written, bar AP2 comment)

Some people would argue that he was just being funny, like he's always been, but his humor used to have a point to it. The people who argue that he was just funny have completely missed the point of his music. Yes, he had his one song on each of his first three albums that was made solely to appease the label and get radio airplay, but even those songs had a political and societal lilt to them. There's a reason "My Name Is" starts with the line "Hi kids, do you like violence." He's telling the world not just who he's addressing, but what he's addressing them with. He's saying if you aren't teaching your kids, there are a host of other people, people who may not have strong morals, that will. This is all wrapped around a humorous song to help the medicine go down, because if he said it straight up he'd be an annoying preachy rapper that no one would want to listen to.

Perfectly put. His humour has lost that real meaning.

[HereHere]

Lol at praising the Airplanes 2 verse.

[TheGentlePlayer]

Always hating

[rinnie1207]

He is 38 years old now, he isn't going to act the same way he did when he came out with the SSLP or even the MMLP. Everyone changes and matures, even Eminem. I'm sick of the whole "Eminem is a sell out" thing already. Its getting old now. Just because he made 2 songs with Rihanna and Pink doesn't make him a sell out. If people want "old Em" just listen to the SSLP or MMLP. The whole article was to me.

"botox infused face?" really?!

[Elision]

[Asd-ONE]

Can someone explain the concept of sell-out?

I don't think he needs either the fame or money, so what do you all mean?

[MarkRyson]

This guy will stick by his claims, but is still an Eminem fan, and Im sure he checks Eminem sites and forums...For a rapper to keep peoples interest for over 10 years is the amaqzing part...the guy has good points, but is not being totally honest...1 Lipton commercial has formulated his whole Fall of Eminem thing...Its a commercial, eminem does'nt make the commercial, he probably just agreed, maybe even to benefit Shady 2.0- For a good reason...Cut him a break...You dont see rappers getting away with dissing him do you? They are afraid to diss him...To this day no one can beat him...Em has already admitted that fame has affected him over time...Hes different now..He views it different now...He never took a personal stand on any major isssues, thats what he felt and wrote about , but it not why he is in rap...He's always rapped for respect

[vivaldiwasasellout]

He is 38 years old now, he isn't going to act the same way he did when he came out with the SSLP or even the MMLP. Everyone changes and matures, even Eminem. I'm sick of the whole "Eminem is a sell out" thing already. Its getting old now. Just because he made 2 songs with Rihanna and Pink doesn't make him a sell out. If people want "old Em" just listen to the SSLP or MMLP. The whole article was to me.

"botox infused face?" really?!

A similar article was published some weeks ago. More or less the same words, but in this version the author (different name) talked about plastic surgery. I remember he said "obviously something went wrong"
I'm sure he will publish the same shit again, changing pseudonym and aestethic procedure (liposuction, blefaroplastic, penis enlargement... )

[Manly Moose]

yeah, dat author is idiot cuz he criticised da eminemz while giving details isnt it yo

eminem is matured cuz he now has daughter and he old man iznt it. in da first few albums he wasnt mature and made songs like hailies song and stan wich showz immaturityz isnt it. now he makez songz like cold windz blowz which shows maturity isnt it - saying slut lots of times in a verze showz maturity isnt it. also not afraid showz maturityz in his lyrics cuz he usez terriblez punchlines and makes melodramatic song isnt it which showz more maturity den rockz bottomz isnt it.

tldr - Eminem was a more mature lyricist and rapper on his first few albums than he is now. Piss off with that mature bullshit.

By the way, this point stuck on mostly in the article (which was very well written, bar AP2 comment)

Some people would argue that he was just being funny, like he's always been, but his humor used to have a point to it. The people who argue that he was just funny have completely missed the point of his music. Yes, he had his one song on each of his first three albums that was made solely to appease the label and get radio airplay, but even those songs had a political and societal lilt to them. There's a reason "My Name Is" starts with the line "Hi kids, do you like violence." He's telling the world not just who he's addressing, but what he's addressing them with. He's saying if you aren't teaching your kids, there are a host of other people, people who may not have strong morals, that will. This is all wrapped around a humorous song to help the medicine go down, because if he said it straight up he'd be an annoying preachy rapper that no one would want to listen to.

Perfectly put. His humour has lost that real meaning.

How in the world is randomly dissing pop stars mature? How was randomly flipping people off mature? We arent talking about maturity as a rapper dumb ass, we're talking about maturity as a person. Also the random humor isnt something new, he has been doing it his whole career.

Just because you don't like new Ems music doesnt mean its not good. Your gonna look like an idiot if you try to insinuate that.

[katha]

Perfectly put. His humour has lost that real meaning.

Yeah, I listened to My Fault today. IMO it's a spot-on depiction of what feminists like to call "rape culture". It takes that callous frat boy mindset to its logical conclusion. And he's hysterically funny about it! Instead of seeing it as the satire and commentary that it is, people insisted that he must be taken literally.

He doesn't do that often anymore. Deja Vu being an exception. But as I said, I just think that he's lost that brilliance he had back then for good. Or at least he's not capable of the kind of consistency he had before the addiction. I like what he's doing now, but then I just skip and ignore what makes me cringe. Or if it's really, really bad (like Roman's Revenge) I pretend it doesn't exist. I guess that makes me an apologist, heh.

[MarkRyson]

U dont have to like "Romans Revenge" , but try to be fair on the track...It's a song he jumped, its not his track...

Delivery = Tight
Flow = Rides the beat

Lyrics - You probably dont even get the lyrics so why am I bothering

"I ain't into S&M, but my whip's off the chain " whip equals device for S&M and whip stands for Car

"An eraser for a head, fuckin' pencil for a frame "- His whole physical self is a writing device, always writing

If u need more explanation on the lyrics, i could break down the wordplay...My guess is that u literally dont know the craft put into songs...My guess is if Eminem had never existed and u heard Romans Revenge u would say who is spitting that male verse- its crazy...But u wont agree cause your spoiled with what Em delivers and have been transformed to a rap critic

[MikeNUFC]

How in the world is randomly dissing pop stars mature? How was randomly flipping people off mature? We arent talking about maturity as a rapper dumb ass, we're talking about maturity as a person. Also the random humor isnt something new, he has been doing it his whole career.

Just because you don't like new Ems music doesnt mean its not good. Your gonna look like an idiot if you try to insinuate that.

I said his lyricism was more mature then than now. I didn't say he NEVER had moments of immaturity back then, he did.

I don't mind Em's new music, I just think parts of Recovery and his post-stuff has been very poor.

We're talking about maturity as person? Are we now? I assume when people say "new eminemz is soooo mature!!1" they're not talking about him as person, they're using it to defend songs such as Not Afraid etc.

No-one said it when Relapse came out and he's acted the exactly the same as a person since then. So yes, we are talking about the rapper.

99% of the humour on his album work in his prime had a huge meaning behind it. None of it does now, bar the odd exception (Deja Vu, as katha says).