We need another Infinite or Relapse.

[EminemBase]

Well, aside from the production Infinite is a good album.

And, Relapse is a very unique experience to me. I'm so glad he made that album and so annoyed he trashed Relapse 2.

It's also interesting that you mentioned these two albums in counterpart as, his aim with both of them was to pretty much max out on rhyming for its sake. The only real difference is the subject-matter, you know... in terms of aim. Obviously the production, flows etc. are diff.

But, he even said around the release of Relapse that he used to just think all that matters is rhyming and fuck everything else and he wanted to go back to that. And... those two albums do go together in my head, and I imagine other people's too.

I don't agree that they're his two best, I think The Marshall Mathers LP and The Eminem Show are. But, I'd maybe rather listen to Relapse repeatedly now than any of his other albums. It's his most addictive and flat-out enjoyable on many levels to me. The phrasing too, it's very unique... much like how his phrasing in the late 90s was very unique...

Like, on a freestyle when he says "that's probably all, cause I ain't awkward at all" - to start a line with "that's probably all"... that's 'probably' all lmao. It's such a funny, weird way to begin a sentence and, he used to phrase things in such a unique way, which automatically made him poetic. And, I feel that he tapped into that again with Relapse, in a different way obviously.

But, he tapped into a character and the phrasing and structure took a new form again. Which was a huge relief after years of monotonous introspection and bitching. Yawn.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Well, aside from the production Infinite is a good album.

And, Relapse is a very unique experience to me. I'm so glad he made that album and so annoyed he trashed Relapse 2.

It's also interesting that you mentioned these two albums in counterpart as, his aim with both of them was to pretty much max out on rhyming for its sake. The only real difference is the subject-matter, you know... in terms of aim. Obviously the production, flows etc. are diff.

But, he even said around the release of Relapse that he used to just think all that matters is rhyming and fuck everything else and he wanted to go back to that. And... those two albums do go together in my head, and I imagine other people's too.

I don't agree that they're his two best, I think The Marshall Mathers LP and The Eminem Show are. But, I'd maybe rather listen to Relapse repeatedly now than any of his other albums. It's his most addictive and flat-out enjoyable on many levels to me. The phrasing too, it's very unique... much like how his phrasing in the late 90s was very unique...

Like, on a freestyle when he says "that's probably all, cause I ain't awkward at all" - to start a line with "that's probably all"... that's 'probably' all lmao. It's such a funny, weird way to begin a sentence and, he used to phrase things in such a unique way, which automatically made him poetic. And, I feel that he tapped into that again with Relapse, in a different way obviously.

But, he tapped into a character and the phrasing and structure took a new form again. Which was a huge relief after years of monotonous introspection and bitching. Yawn.

I agree with that. I listen to Relapse, still, because the material is enjoyable IMO...not his best material, and I think Recovery surpasses it as an album, but I definitely agree.

[zedzero27]

I personally think that Relapse, and Infinite are his best two albums.

[classthe_king]

Like, on a freestyle when he says "that's probably all, cause I ain't awkward at all" - to start a line with "that's probably all"... that's 'probably' all lmao. It's such a funny, weird way to begin a sentence and, he used to phrase things in such a unique way, which automatically made him poetic. And, I feel that he tapped into that again with Relapse, in a different way obviously.

And you say that you're not a Stan

[EminemBase]

Like, on a freestyle when he says "that's probably all, cause I ain't awkward at all" - to start a line with "that's probably all"... that's 'probably' all lmao. It's such a funny, weird way to begin a sentence and, he used to phrase things in such a unique way, which automatically made him poetic. And, I feel that he tapped into that again with Relapse, in a different way obviously.

And you say that you're not a Stan

Why am I a Stan? for knowing his freestyles, or for the analysis?

I could also break down other rappers in the same way if you like. And I also know freestyles of other rappers... I just have a good memory with things I enjoy. It's just, we're on an Eminem forum and I don't have all the hours in the day to spend talking about hip-hop.

It's pretty normal to focus on who you think is the best in a field and talk about them primarily. But I analyze everything the same, as you will see if you go into 'Serious Debate' from my recent posts there. It's not specific to Eminem...

I'm analyzing his writing, doesn't make me a Stan. Makes me somebody who enjoys analysis, discussion and breaking things down to their finest elements. Eminem aside, that remains.

[zedzero27]

Like, on a freestyle when he says "that's probably all, cause I ain't awkward at all"

which freestyle does he say that in?

[xxTrigger1989xx]

It's not abnormal to break down your favorite artist's lyrics and analyze them...that's what EVERY person should do for their favorite artists, maybe they'd be smarter...I'm fairly sure Class does that with Sadistik, but he won't say anything about THAT now, will he?

[Unscarred]

Like, on a freestyle when he says "that's probably all, cause I ain't awkward at all"

which freestyle does he say that in?

Renewing The Staff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysqg-sfD9v4

[EminemBase]

It's not abnormal to break down your favorite artist's lyrics and analyze them...that's what EVERY person should do for their favorite artists, maybe they'd be smarter...I'm fairly sure Class does that with Sadistik, but he won't say anything about THAT now, will he?

Absolutely. I do that with ANY artist that catches my ear.

I've only recently truly began listening to The Beatles for example. Now, obviously I knew of some of their iconic hits but I'd never listened to their albums or studied them.

But, I just have an analytical mind. It's not something I choose to do it's just how I think and if I'm listening to somebody, then I already like them, by default. Or I wouldn't be listening. And if I'm listening... I'm analyzing. Again, they go hand in hand.

It's a natural process and I enjoy it. And it's only highlighted here or looks to be only on Eminem again, because we're on a fucking Eminem forum lmao. But if I was on a Beatles forum, or Nas forum, you'd see the same thing. But, this site is tailored for Eminem talk, we have primarily Eminem fans here. So that's what I primarily talk about here.

[classthe_king]

No I agree with you, I especially love these lyrics

"Till I collapse I’m spilling these raps long as you feel em"

He has such a profound vernacular and the way he carefully places each word is spectacular. He creates such a unique and vivid image with his lyrics. I particually love the phrase "spilling these raps." It shows how it doesn't even seem like he's trying anymore, they're just spilling out him, similar to the way a 5 Star Chef spills his award winning sauce on the floor. He always starts it out in an amazing way, "Till I collapse." It shows how he is like a collossal giant on top of this rap game, and how he will keep rapping until he collapses, similar to how a mountain collapses during an avalanche (Mount. Everest of course because Eminem is at the top). I love the wordplay at the end as well. "Long as you feel em." It's a genius double entendre with em, which is short for them, referring to the raps and em, which is short for Eminem. So until he collapses he's going to keep rapping as long as you feel him as a rapper and the raps themselves. Which is also a metaphor for how him and his raps are one and how he puts his life in his music.

[zedzero27]

Like, on a freestyle when he says "that's probably all, cause I ain't awkward at all"

which freestyle does he say that in?

Renewing The Staff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysqg-sfD9v4

thanks
that's a damn good freestyle.

[EminemBase]

No I agree with you, I especially love these lyrics

"Till I collapse I’m spilling these raps long as you feel em"

He has such a profound vernacular and the way he carefully places each word is spectacular. He creates such a unique and vivid image with his lyrics. I particually love the phrase "spilling these raps." It shows how it doesn't even seem like he's trying anymore, they're just spilling out him, similar to the way a 5 Star Chef spills his award winning sauce on the floor. He always starts it out in an amazing way, "Till I collapse." It shows how he is like a collossal giant on top of this rap game, and how he will keep rapping until he collapses, similar to how a mountain collapses during an avalanche (Mount. Everest of course because Eminem is at the top). I love the wordplay at the end as well. "Long as you feel em." It's a genius double entendre with em, which is short for them, referring to the raps and em, which is short for Eminem. So until he collapses he's going to keep rapping as long as you feel him as a rapper and the raps themselves. Which is also a metaphor for how him and his raps are one and how he puts his life in his music.

Yawn.

Your implication I'm fluffing up shit to make it something it's not is incorrect.

Did I say his phrasing is ALWAYS that? No.

I specifically mentioned him in the late 90s and justified it with a particular phrase. And I didn't go into that kind of ridiculous detail or make it something it's not. I simply said starting a sentence with the phrase "that's probably all" was weird and unique.

Which it is. It's a weird way to write. His phrasing was unique back then and I think the majority of people would agree with me, and that's partially why he stood out so much. It was partially his phrasing that made what he said, sound witty.

So, you can take the piss but, you can't justify your piss-taking. Fail.

[KingDavid]

Ya man relapse is a boss album along with infinite ^^

[Fa-Q]

He just needs to create another album thats like none of the ones before it.....like....he always does

[JUMPDMC]

He just needs to create another album thats like none of the ones before it.....like....he always does

Yes, Im sure he'll come up with something.