Why all the hate on Love the way you lie?

[Jdubem]

I guess I just dont see why people care so much about who likes the song. I mean if someone is gonna like it then there gonna like it. Why should I care? I try and just judge the song on its own merits and on its own merits there really is nothing wrong with Love the Way you Lie and Im not at all mad that he released it.

[richard]

I don't hate it, I just hate the people that love it.

Most tracks which get huge from him or anybody get eventually hated by people who critically think about music or like artists for their album material more than their singles anyway. Because once those huge songs appeal to people who don't even get Eminem, or X artist properly and just listen to the hits, liking the track becomes like guilt by association.

Personally, I don't want to be thought of in the same category or associated with some of the people that like his music or like him for the wrong reasons. Which is why when a song like this gets huge it urges me internally to dislike it, as all I think about is certain retards.

This song in particular is also obviously hated by default by many who just don't like Rihanna. But I don't dislike it for this reason as putting her on this chorus was a pretty ingenious thing to do. It'd be like putting Elton John on a track about homophobia or, as Em already did, performing with him at the Grammys in front of GLAAD protesters.

It's a paradox and adds a new layer to the art. Makes it better.

And in particular with this track as the lyrics and execution of the concept / story are so vivid and emotional, and the situation with Rihanna so huge and known publicly that it just adds a very... interesting undertone to the track, always.

This is a rare example where Rihanna was literally the best possible choice for this hook. If it was Skylar Grey, or anybody else, it wouldn't matter. Then it'd just be a random female on the hook and wouldn't have the same angle or depth to it. So regardless of however much you hate Rihanna or her big forehead, this time, she was the absolutely correct and perfect choice.

It was a really nice idea and obviously Em knew it would make the track huge from her name alone. But given the subject-matter, he clearly chose her primarily for the reasons I mentioned above and it's a by-chance marriage of controversy and aristry, and mainstream appeal. Without compromising anything... so, that's a real plus and gives me hope that the innovative, cynical artist behind The Marshall Mathers LP may still be alive yet.

Also, one more reason is just that generally speaking - when a lot of people like something, whatever it is, and rave about it or it's popular by default, I want to hate it. Loving something that many like inherently makes you feel a bit sheepish and anybody who values being an individual, would innately feel apposed to this. And I know I'm not alone in feeling like that. As I don't have special DNA, and am a part of a species, so this must be fairly common too.

I completely agree with everything you said. I was about to post something similar until I read your post. I feel the same way. Whenever a song becomes hugely popular, I want to hate it.

That's just silly though, why would you WANT to hate it just because other people like it? Does the fact that other people like it actually influence the way you perceive the sound of the song and the meaning of the lyrics? Or are you just a hipster?

[Fleka]

Becouse Rihanna is on it and everybody likes it and my tough gangsta ass will not take that kind of shit, you her me.

I like the song.

[Bananastyle]

That's just silly though, why would you WANT to hate it just because other people like it? Does the fact that other people like it actually influence the way you perceive the sound of the song and the meaning of the lyrics? Or are you just a hipster?

I did a thesis on this in undergrad for a Behavioral Psych class. Not specifically music but all forms of entertainment/enjoyment, but it's something people legitimately do and don't realize why.

In a nutshell, it's a mental defense mechanism for most people that comes from lack of acceptance by society in some form. Not liking something because it sucks is one thing, not like something because it's "popular" or "mainstream" is another.

Drop that knowledge on someone you don't like or annoys you next time they start bashing mainstream things. Even if you agree with them it will shut them the fuck up because you touched a pretty deep emotional nerve.

[Ku53v]

It's mostly hated just 'cause of how popular it became. Check some of the threads from when Recovery leaked, almost every1 loved it back then

[2DreamFire]

Whenever a song becomes hugely popular, I want to hate it.

Dude that's so fucking gay. I understand if you hear a song to many times and get sick of it, but hating it because a bunch of people love it is RETARDED!!!!

I know that. I actually do like the song. I said it makes me want to hate it, not that I do. Like EmBase said, it's one of those things in which you don't want to feel associated with the people that like the song. You know the people I'm talking about; the girls that just like anything because it's popular and have actually never listened to any other song by the artist before. I try not to let a song becoming hugely popular alter my view on it. As I said, it makes me want to hate it. I don't actually hate it.

Another thing, when a song becomes hugely popular, it gets played a lot and people talk about it a lot. You get to a point in which you're just so tired of hearing it and people talking about it, that you start to despise the song. I just quoted EmBase's post because I thought it explained well why people might hate a certain thing so much.

[JakeBlack]

yeah I just dont think he has the confidence to do great hooks now. It used to be a strong point, but now post comeback he seems to have lost it.

Stay Wide Awake, Elevator, Deja Vu, 3am, So Bad, Seduction, Reuion, Taking My Ball, Must Be Ganga, My Mom and Old Times Sake.

[Sla]

Because it's one of those songs were it feels like jimmy iovines hand is so far up eminems ass it is controlling his vocal chords.

Let's stop with these stories about Em being forced to drop a more mainstream album. It was his decision, he wanted something diffferent. He asked ADK personally about some good sounding hook after Airplanes pt. II, so LTWYL happened.

It's a perfect Rap/Sung collaboration track, perfect for the radio stations, perfect to create hype. When I heard it the first time I had goose pimples. I dreamt in that period about Rihanna jumping on an Em song. Was great how it ruled the charts, I thought no Em song would ever be nearly as successful as LY.

[Alex2012]

I think people dislike it mostly because Rihanna's on it and she's too pop. If it was the exact same song with say Mary J Blige on it there's probably be no complaints.

No, there would be no complaints because Mary J Blige would have never sang this shit.

[Sam.]

Because tween girls like it, therefore it must be awful.

Lol, The no of times the lines from the verses / Chorus have been tweeted and put as Facebook status had me irritated over this song.

In other words it's a good song ,well delivered . ... ah fuck it .

[EminemBase]

Also, one more reason is just that generally speaking - when a lot of people like something, whatever it is, and rave about it or it's popular by default, I want to hate it.

Hating something JUST because a lot of other people like it is dumb. 22 Million people have purchased the MMLP so do you not like that? If something is good, you should enjoy it, no matter how many people like it.

Could you please point out where I said it wasn't stupid? or that it was a good, logical or sensible thing? it's an emotional urge driven by not wanting to feel associated with certain people, or feel like a sheep. Nothing more.

That doesn't mean that I DO hate things if other people love them. I have whatever opinion I naturally have, on anything. Regardless of whether one or one million people love or hate it. It doesn't matter at all. I was just stating the reality of it for me, and a lot of people.

There's nothing abnormal about it either. And actually WANTING to hate it is not stupid. It's not a choice, it's natural and it's a very very common thing.

It's also largely the feeling of wanting to "own" a memory or experience. And when millions grab onto it, it feels less special and yours. And some people also get annoyed at others liking artists or things when they feel they don't like it or care about it as much.

These may be petty emotions, but they're still real and common.

Even Eminem said in a 2008 interview with Zane Lowe that when something gets too big people usually want to hate it and leave it alone. He even gave an example of some hip hop group where he did that. Where he loved them when they were underground then when everybody else loved them he hated them.

So no. It's not stupid wanting to hate something if lots love it. As the 'lots' you can often feel you don't truly relate to so it feels as if they're invading on your taste. It would be stupid to actually force yourself to hate something, or suddenly pretend to though. I don't do that and never said I did though. So why don't you clarify what I mean first.

[Fleka]

it's an emotional urge driven by not wanting to feel associated with certain people, or feel like a sheep. Nothing more.

People that do that are stupid. You feel like a sheep if you like what everybody likes, so you hate it so that you will not be one of the sheep. And that makes you a sheep becouse you do what others that feel like that do. I don`t give a fuck if girls on Facebook qoute LTWYL, or whatever they do. I know I like that song and why I like it. I`m an Eminem fan for the past 10-11 years, I like the song, but I would not put it with his best stuff. Somebody else likes it only becouse Rihanna is on it and the song is topping the charts.

My friends girlfriend (a very stupid bitch) has always talked shit about Eminem. She likes Rihanna, she is her favourite singer. She loved the song, and she said that this song has a meaning unlike other Eminem songs. I felt like slapping the dumb bitch, not ASSOCIATED to her. And we both like the song.

[EminemBase]

it's an emotional urge driven by not wanting to feel associated with certain people, or feel like a sheep. Nothing more.

People that do that are stupid. You feel like a sheep if you like what everybody likes, so you hate it so that you will not be one of the sheep. And that makes you a sheep becouse you do what others that feel like that do. I don`t give a fuck if girls on Facebook qoute LTWYL, or whatever they do. I know I like that song and why I like it. I`m an Eminem fan for the past 10-11 years, I like the song, but I would not put it with his best stuff. Somebody else likes it only becouse Rihanna is on it and the song is topping the charts.

My friends girlfriend (a very stupid bitch) has always talked shit about Eminem. She likes Rihanna, she is her favourite singer. She loved the song, and she said that this song has a meaning unlike other Eminem songs. I felt like slapping the dumb bitch, not ASSOCIATED to her. And we both like the song.

It's not stupid to have an innate response to something. And it's not stupid to want to feel like an individual, be different, go against the crowd and have a 'special' taste.

These qualities are natural human traits rooted in personal viewpoint, empathy and basic emotion. They're not stupid, they're perfectly normal and fine.

It's can be stupid to act upon primal emotions, it's not stupid to HAVE them. It's like saying it's stupid to FEEL angry if somebody spits in your face. It's not, it's a natural.

[EminemBase]

Can you please point out where I said it was?

On a serious note though I assumed (I know I shouldnt assume stuff) that when you said you want to hate it you wouldnt think that was dumb. If you would have said something like "when a lot of people like something, whatever it is, and rave about it or it's popular by default, I want to hate it which is stupid I know." then I definitely wouldnt have posted that.

Well not really, I think given you know that I'm not a complete retard like some here you'd know that anybody with any sense would see how stupid it is.

I'm a very logical person. So how could I possibly justify something to myself such as... if a lot of people like X... DISLIKE x, even if you originally liked X. Obviously that would make no sense and be ridiculous.

That's why I said I WANT to. If I did, I'd say I just hate things when people love them. The word want is the key there lol. As in, want to... but don't.

And like I said, I don't think wanting to hate something when too many like it is dumb. I just think to actually do that / act on it would be dumb. A lot of totally intelligent people, in fact probably more-so than stupid people feel that way.

As often, the more intelligent... the more of an individual you are or wish to feel. And sheepishly loving something detracts from that and contradicts it. So it's not dumb to feel that, it's fine. It'd be dumb to just love something when others do. Which is probably another reason people feel what I'm talking about, as they don't want to look like they're just agreeing for the sake of it.

[SoldierShady]

Too gimmicky for my like. Too much.....for the radio. Almost like Interscope told Eminem to record it.

The choppy flow didn't help either..