How would you feel if Em got outshined on a track?

[12characters]

I'm not saying a typical Bad Meets Evil track, I'm talking Em's collaborator completely renegaded him.

How do you think Em would feel? Would this affect his his writing? Affect his opinion on himself, his music? Affect his fans opinions on him?

But more importantly: how would it make YOU feel?

I think it would affect him the same way it affected Jay-Z on Renegade: Not at all. At this point in his career I don't think he minds letting other rappers shine. His place as one of the greatest is set.

I wonder who would be better or if they'd be equal if he and Nas did a track together.

I think Current Nas will slaughter Current Em unless Em pulled out all of the stops and even then I'm leaning more towards Nas, but it could probably go either way.

I really wish Em would've dropped a verse and maybe even a chorus/bridge on "The Cross" back in like 02.

How are you going to sit there and pretend like Crooked I didn't shit on Em (and everyone else) on Loud Noises?

I honestly think Budden > Crooked I in that song but I guess I would count that if I considered Em's verse "great". I mean I liked it but..idk..

I would agree. I know Crooked had incredible rhyming, but in terms of being entertaining to listen to for me Loud Noises goes like this... Budden>Eminem>Ortiz>Crooked>Royce

For me, it was more like Budden>Crooked>Em>Ortiz>Royce.. I really was disappointed by Royce in that song. What can I say doe? He's a cocaine cowboy.

[DanWS]

The only way he is outshined to stans is if he was outshined by another artist they truly like, otherwise it's impossible

[Elision]

^ Good point, Nas right now is fuckin Nasty.

A bunch of rappers right now are going harder than ever. It's just gonna become more and more apparent that Em is avoiding them. Until of course, he doesn't.

[Fleka]

I would feel...nothing.

[Graphic]

How would I feel? If your definition of "renegading" involves a great Em verse and then an even greater verse from another artist, it would probably just be a really good song. What's to complain about?

[Emadyville]

How would I feel? It would probably If your definition of "renegading" involves a great Em verse and then an even greater verse from another artist, it would probably just be a really good song. What's to complain about?

thats actually a damn good point

[Slim Fiasco]

I'd be happy cause it should be a reality check for him. He's used to everybody placing themselves under him, and be like "you the boss, you the boss" etc., but it'd be cool to hear Elzhi slaughter him.

[Kill You]

Wouldn't necessarily feel bad...I'd be disappointed though. It's happened a few times. I would rather someone huge and relevant diss him really bad so he could get into that "Warning" zone again.

[VanillaSkittlez]

There's nothing to feel because that would NEVER happen. It's hard to explain. It's not necessarily about the lyrics. It's like when I heard "Forever" for the first time, I seriously could not "hear" anything on the track until Eminem's verse. It's like that with any Eminem collab. I simply never hear the other artist. It's weird. I have to listen to the song a lot in order to even notice the other artists. I know it's fucked up, but that's a Stan for you. Sorry.

This. I mean, when it comes to collabing with good rappers such as Dead Wrong or Renegade or Where I'm At (simply because both did really well, but I don't think either was trying to 'kill' the other, perse) or even some with 50 where 50 did pretty well, I love to listen to the other artist. But there's some inner Stan in me that's just thinking "Okay, decent rapping, decent rapping, decent rapping, OOH, Eminem, lemme pay extra attention."

I know it sounds Stanish but listening to songs like Forever, Drop The World, Welcome 2 Detroit, etc... The other rappers are just so uninteresting and bland and Em just brings excitement to the song. I give everyone a fair shot but some rappers I just don't find that interesting. That's just me.

[Elision]

There's nothing to feel because that would NEVER happen. It's hard to explain. It's not necessarily about the lyrics. It's like when I heard "Forever" for the first time, I seriously could not "hear" anything on the track until Eminem's verse. It's like that with any Eminem collab. I simply never hear the other artist. It's weird. I have to listen to the song a lot in order to even notice the other artists. I know it's fucked up, but that's a Stan for you. Sorry.

This. I mean, when it comes to collabing with good rappers such as Dead Wrong or Renegade or Where I'm At (simply because both did really well, but I don't think either was trying to 'kill' the other, perse) or even some with 50 where 50 did pretty well, I love to listen to the other artist. But there's some inner Stan in me that's just thinking "Okay, decent rapping, decent rapping, decent rapping, OOH, Eminem, lemme pay extra attention."

I know it sounds Stanish but listening to songs like Forever, Drop The World, Welcome 2 Detroit, etc... The other rappers are just so uninteresting and bland and Em just brings excitement to the song. I give everyone a fair shot but some rappers I just don't find that interesting. That's just me.

You feel that way because Eminem is a raw underground artist that got shot into the public eye. He doesn't collaborate with good artists. And he's a big rap fan, so what pisses me off is that he knows there's these super heavy-hitters out there, yet he continues to rap with Royce and people from Young Money.

TL;DR: Eminem is a top-tier artist who collabs with not-top-tier artists -- and it's impossible for him not to realize it.

[Mathers]

There's nothing to feel because that would NEVER happen. It's hard to explain. It's not necessarily about the lyrics. It's like when I heard "Forever" for the first time, I seriously could not "hear" anything on the track until Eminem's verse. It's like that with any Eminem collab. I simply never hear the other artist. It's weird. I have to listen to the song a lot in order to even notice the other artists. I know it's fucked up, but that's a Stan for you. Sorry.

This. I mean, when it comes to collabing with good rappers such as Dead Wrong or Renegade or Where I'm At (simply because both did really well, but I don't think either was trying to 'kill' the other, perse) or even some with 50 where 50 did pretty well, I love to listen to the other artist. But there's some inner Stan in me that's just thinking "Okay, decent rapping, decent rapping, decent rapping, OOH, Eminem, lemme pay extra attention."

I know it sounds Stanish but listening to songs like Forever, Drop The World, Welcome 2 Detroit, etc... The other rappers are just so uninteresting and bland and Em just brings excitement to the song. I give everyone a fair shot but some rappers I just don't find that interesting. That's just me.

You feel that way because Eminem is a raw underground artist that got shot into the public eye. He doesn't collaborate with good artists. And he's a big rap fan, so what pisses me off is that he knows there's these super heavy-hitters out there, yet he continues to rap with Royce and people from Young Money.

TL;DR: Eminem is a top-tier artist who collabs with not-top-tier artists -- and it's impossible for him not to realize it.

And what's wrong with Royce?

[RKOunion]

@Mathers, out of curiosity, have you EVER posted anything beyond a one-liner?

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Wait till he collabs with joe!

[Elision]

And what's wrong with Royce?

In comparison to most? Nothing. But there's tons of much better artists, that Em knows exist.

[12characters]

And what's wrong with Royce?

In comparison to most? Nothing. But there's tons of much better artists, that Em knows exist.

True (although I wouldn't say TONS of better artists, or if they are I wouldn't say it was by a lot.), but Royce should still have priority due to their bromance that have going on. Don't get me wrong, Tech is the first person to come to mind when someone asks "Who should Em work with?" and he totally deserves it (along with a few other people too), but I for one like the fact that Bad Meets Evil are still making music together.