Bad Meets Evil is a pretty aweful Album

[SoldierShady]

Bad Meets Evil isn't an album

[kiki]

I bet Bad and Evil know how to spell awful.....(forget about this if you're not a native speaker! )

[EminemBase]

I disagree.

Firstly I think most of the production is great. It was an improvement over most of Recovery and "On Fire" was one of the best beats on Recovery too, I think Mr. Porter is a good producer.

As for the content having 'no substance' - Bad Meets Evil were always about showcasing. It was about Em and Royce one-upping each other and coming out with witty punchlines, it's about being lyrical for the sake of being lyrical. It's pure hip-hop, it's rhyme and flow to the max.

Which is what I LOVE. It's so fucking easy to just 'write about your life' or 'friends' or something most generic fans consider 'meaningful' and go "aw wow man, this is like, I can RELATE to it, so it's genius". I find introspective content pretty monotonous. It's predictable and repetitive.

I'd much rather have them sporadically rattling off whatever the pen dictates, never knowing what may come out of their mouth next, with all the focus on technique. It's like an exhibition.

Concepts, attitude and flow experimentation are all exciting. Bad Meets Evil aren't about being true to life and introspective, they're abstract and representative, they create little movie tracks. "Bad Meets Evil" and "Scary Movies" didn't have any 'substance' in how you'd define it either, they were aimless concept tracks and an excuse to be lyrical, for its own sake.

Candid talk about 'life issues'... I could do it myself, and I deal with enough of it myself. I don't need it in rhyme form to relate to it and feel complete, that's not great art to me, it's documentation.

I want concepts, ideas, originality.

Now, I'm not saying the EP has the most original or creative content on Earth, but it doesn't matter as their flows and rhyming are awesome and I think it's entirely stimulating on that level. You get different things out of different projects / artists, and the EP is a shot of hip-hip heroin, nothing more, nothing less. Every time I listen to "Welcome 2 Hell" and "Fast Lane" back-to-back it's like a line of lyrical cocaine. And I'd much rather that than obvious, 'true to life' content.

[Kill You]

I disagree.

Firstly I think most of the production is great. It was an improvement over most of Recovery and "On Fire" was one of the best beats on Recovery too, I think Mr. Porter is a good producer.

As for the content having 'no substance' - Bad Meets Evil were always about showcasing. It was about Em and Royce one-upping each other and coming out with witty punchlines, it's about being lyrical for the sake of being lyrical. It's pure hip-hop, it's rhyme and flow to the max.

Which is what I LOVE. It's so fucking easy to just 'write about your life' or 'friends' or something most generic fans consider 'meaningful' and go "aw wow man, this is like, I can RELATE to it, so it's genius". I find introspective content pretty monotonous. It's predictable and repetitive.

I'd much rather have them sporadically rattling off whatever the pen dictates, never knowing what may come out of their mouth next, with all the focus on technique. It's like an exhibition.

Concepts, attitude and flow experimentation are all exciting. Bad Meets Evil aren't about being true to life and introspective, they're abstract and representative, they create little movie tracks. "Bad Meets Evil" and "Scary Movies" didn't have any 'substance' in how you'd define it either, they were aimless concept tracks and an excuse to be lyrical, for its own sake.

Candid talk about 'life issues'... I could do it myself, and I deal with enough of it myself. I don't need it in rhyme form to relate to it and feel complete, that's not great art to me, it's documentation.

I want concepts, ideas, originality.

Now, I'm not saying the EP has the most original or creative content on Earth, but it doesn't matter as their flows and rhyming are awesome and I think it's entirely stimulating on that level. You get different things out of different projects / artists, and the EP is a shot of hip-hip heroin, nothing more, nothing less. Every time I listen to "Welcome 2 Hell" and "Fast Lane" back-to-back it's like a line of lyrical cocaine. And I'd much rather that than obvious, 'true to life' content.

Nail on the head, I agree 100%. It's not MEANT to be an EP you relate to lmao. Anyone who expected that is kidding themselves. I kinda liked the content for the same reasons you listed. Agree fully about the production too...I feel the production is a step up from Recovery.

[Kill You]

A Proof tribute would have been WAY too emotional for BME lol. That needs to appear on his last album...a better one than You're Never Over. A song that's actually ABOUT him and about his life and not about Em coming out of the darkness from Proof's death...

[Mathers]

I disagree.

Firstly I think most of the production is great. It was an improvement over most of Recovery and "On Fire" was one of the best beats on Recovery too, I think Mr. Porter is a good producer.

As for the content having 'no substance' - Bad Meets Evil were always about showcasing. It was about Em and Royce one-upping each other and coming out with witty punchlines, it's about being lyrical for the sake of being lyrical. It's pure hip-hop, it's rhyme and flow to the max.

Which is what I LOVE. It's so fucking easy to just 'write about your life' or 'friends' or something most generic fans consider 'meaningful' and go "aw wow man, this is like, I can RELATE to it, so it's genius". I find introspective content pretty monotonous. It's predictable and repetitive.

I'd much rather have them sporadically rattling off whatever the pen dictates, never knowing what may come out of their mouth next, with all the focus on technique. It's like an exhibition.

Concepts, attitude and flow experimentation are all exciting. Bad Meets Evil aren't about being true to life and introspective, they're abstract and representative, they create little movie tracks. "Bad Meets Evil" and "Scary Movies" didn't have any 'substance' in how you'd define it either, they were aimless concept tracks and an excuse to be lyrical, for its own sake.

Candid talk about 'life issues'... I could do it myself, and I deal with enough of it myself. I don't need it
in rhyme form to relate to it and feel complete, that's not great art to me, it's documentation.

I want concepts, ideas, originality.

Now, I'm not saying the EP has the most original or creative content on Earth, but it doesn't matter as their flows and rhyming are awesome and I think it's entirely stimulating on that level. You get different things out of different projects / artists, and the EP is a shot of hip-hip heroin, nothing more, nothing less. Every time I listen to "Welcome 2 Hell" and "Fast Lane" back-to-back it's like a line of
lyrical cocaine. And I'd much rather that than obvious, 'true to life' content.

Totally totally agree, as many before me have said, an album by a duo named Bad Meets Evil is not even expected to have introspective content.

Still wish there was a Proof tribute on it though .

Em already made a Proof tribute.

[EminemBase]

A proof tribute has no place on a BME project.

That addresses their real life / reality outside of the conceptual pair which is essentially like breaking the fourth wall. Eminem can juggle personas and his personal life good enough to make it work but as you saw with "Lighters" slapped in between that material, it just ruins BME.

I know it was mainly the hook that was out of place but just the content in general. The content was Eminem and Royce Da 5'9", not Bad Meets Evil.

They're a conceptual duo and they should make conceptual music.

Talking about Proof to me would be like Robert De Niro talking about his real life in Taxi Driver or something. It would just be bizarre, and it ruins the art.

Now, obviously it's not that dramatic with BME as Em and Royce may sort of be in character but are obviously more-so just exaggerated versions of themselves living in a cartoon violence world but, still... it either needs to be a balanced blend (which it wouldn't be), or one or the other.

[Emadyville]

You know, when you spell awful like that, you're saying it fills you with awe, so it's really closer to awesome...in which case I agree with you.

I agree with this, not the OP

[Fleka]

A proof tribute has no place on a BME project.

Agreed. It`s like people here don`t know shit about Eminem. BAD MEETS EVIL: Em and Royce spitting fire aboud BAD AND EVIL shit.

I used to be a loudmouth, remember me? (uh-ah)
I'm the one who burned your house down (oh)
Well I'm out now (shit), and this time I'm comin back to blow your house up
And I ain't gon leave you a window to jump out of
Give me two fat tabs and three shrooms
And you won't see me like fat people in steam rooms
And when I go to hell and I'm gettin ready to leave
I'ma put air in a bag and charge people to breathe

Stuff like that.

[KingDavid]

shut the fuck up man, listen to above the law and tell me you wouldnt have it any other way!

[OMEGA]

Pretty luzl-worthy "arguments".

Bad production?

WTH, TR, FL... all of the songs disagree.

[Spyder]

your spelling of awful is awful

[Relapse.]

Given that they put the EP together for fun, I wouldn't critique that hard. I really like the production, it's thumping in the car and the lyricism is fuckin nuts.

When I'm in the mood to hear modern emcees rip the beat apart, I spin H:TS.

Dude... Menzo... We're long lost twins cuz everything you fucking say I 100% agree with.

[Blu]

Given that they put the EP together for fun, I wouldn't critique that hard. I really like the production, it's thumping in the car and the lyricism is fuckin nuts.

When I'm in the mood to hear modern emcees rip the beat apart, I spin H:TS.

Dude... Menzo... We're long lost twins cuz everything you fucking say I 100% agree with.

You better give him the dick Menzmole..

[Aftermathers]

Again for me Substance, Content, Emotion, expressive thought's and actually Rapping Lyrics cohessive and meaninful is the most important factor to me with a great Hook/Melody and Beat to compliment the Lyrics.


Anyone can Rap about serial killing and rape or just Rap random words like they reading a dictionary that is what anyone can do and so simple.