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Re: Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

Postby Kill You » Aug 12th, '12, 21:31

AmmoHaze wrote:
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AmmoHaze wrote:His feelings about God/spirituality he is a christian and he had a rough and crazy life so a song about being thankful to God for getting him through his pain

FUCK NO.



He touching on that subject on his feature on the Slaughterhouse album.


This dramatic opener features Eminem and finds him pleading with the man above for a little more muscle for his struggles. "God, if you're listening," Em starts, "give me the strength to beat all competition." :worship: :worship: :worship:



http://www.complex.com/music/2012/08/al ... /our-house


I highly doubt Em's verse is gonna be about God lol. If he has one.
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Re: Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

Postby AmmoHaze » Aug 12th, '12, 21:35

it's not always about the shoot em, death murder music to make make a few people laugh or a joke about fries and burgers. Who ever likes that you get that in the first damn rasclart place as well you get ya Bad Meets Evil, you got ya Relapse. You as an Artist have to give your fans especially the core what they wanna hear some of us the things we go through we wanna hear from Eminem that he been through lifes deeper 4 some than others but don't complain 24/7 when you got your projects like BME for those that enjoy that kinda music.
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Re: Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

Postby Blu » Aug 12th, '12, 21:39

AmmoHaze wrote:it's not always about the shoot em, death murder music to make make a few people laugh or a joke about fries and burgers. Who ever likes that you get that in the first damn rasclart place as well you get ya Bad Meets Evil, you got ya Relapse. You as an Artist have to give your fans especially the core what they wanna hear some of us the things we go through we wanna hear from Eminem that he been through lifes deeper 4 some than others but don't complain 24/7 when you got your projects like BME for those that enjoy that kinda music.

Yeahhh this is Aftermathers lol.

But I agree I feel his emotional music has more substance and some music about God would have substance cuz we all love substance and emotion and emotional substance.
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Re: Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

Postby Notalius » Aug 12th, '12, 21:41

-some eminem songs and some shady songs. not like recovery or the eminem show where you have like 2 or 3 shady songs but more like encore 50/50. of course as long as the shady songs arent garbage like on encore :facepalm.

-lots of storytelling like my mom, stan .... the sequel to almost famous wich i think will have the name Finally famous, duh :D

-he shouldnt talk about hailie anymore i dont even think she wants to hear it since shes getting older and she is listening to her dad's music. and she surely doesnt want to hear another song about her even if its like a nice song.

-i would love to hear a song about kim. "kim 2" to be exact. of course not another one where he is killing her but more like a song about their good times and maybe saying sry through this song

-a song about growin up in general. sure he mentioned in a few songs how he's been bullied and all that, but he has never really rapped about ronnie or how he and kim got together and all that stuff.

-a song about the hip hop shop and how d12 came together.

-a song about the d12 situation in general, maybe something like how come.

-he isnt gonna rap about the president since it would look like he's a racist if hes bashing obama.
maybe something about how people have no jobs and no money because of the goverment.

- a shady vs eminem battle :D
its like in a box fight, every single time the gong rings someone does a verse . shady could talk about how eminem got soft and doesnt have the balls to say controversial stuff anymore. eminem could say something like you are just a bottle of hairbleach and vodka xD

thats acctually it, maybe a few skits
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Re: Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

Postby EminemBase » Aug 12th, '12, 21:41

AmmoHaze wrote:it's not always about the shoot em, death murder music to make make a few people laugh or a joke about fries and burgers. Who ever likes that you get that in the first damn rasclart place as well you get ya Bad Meets Evil, you got ya Relapse. You as an Artist have to give your fans especially the core what they wanna hear some of us the things we go through we wanna hear from Eminem that he been through lifes deeper 4 some than others but don't complain 24/7 when you got your projects like BME for those that enjoy that kinda music.


Your perception of deep as just one dimensional introspection, is frustrating.

I have a friend just like this who only likes 'real' movies aka things that could 'really happen'. Well, if you want reality; watch a fucking documentary.

I don't listen to Eminem for a chronological update of his struggles.

You can be deep WHILST being creative and whilst making multiple points. Just plain writing about how you feel about something is about as simplistic as it gets.

"97 Bonnie and Clyde" expressed the love for his daughter and the hatred for his wife simultaneously, but creatively. It was a brilliant concept, executed ingeniously; informing the listener of the story unfolding, in BABY TALK; revealing one little sick detail at a time but... just, wow. Something like that is so much better than just a plain-out expression of feeling.

To me anyway. I can write how I feel. But creating something like that, is what makes Eminem.

People are so narrow-minded and unimaginative. I mean, christ... the amount of concepts shooting around in my brain are never-ending! so the amount that must be shooting around in the brain of Eminem must be amazing, and he has the talent to execute them on a ground-breaking level. To squander his gift on plain jane emotional rambling: YAWN, and: waste.
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Re: Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

Postby LIL_B » Aug 12th, '12, 21:44

do it genzo<3
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Re: Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

Postby AmmoHaze » Aug 12th, '12, 21:46

EminemBase wrote:I don't want to be able to predict any aspect about it.

I don't want an album of 'life' subject-matter. I want some originality, some concepts. Art.



It goes back to the point if you want that whatever it is cos you not really specfic i'm sure you will get it. Those that wanted what they like such as Relapse style got that but it's about understanding most the fans who want and love the life subject matter, relate to it, connect we gonna get that obviously understand you 1 person outta 40-50 million that doesn't want it fam. But no 1 is neglected so why complain?


It's unrealistic to think Eminem gonna neglect his core fans we talking in The Eminem Shows case 20 million people Recovery 10 million or so people based on worldwide sales. Or the millions that purchaed Lose Yourself that do wanna hear the life type of music. It's un realistic totally thinking he gonna neglect the fans the core supporters based on all these stats.
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Re: Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

Postby EG. » Aug 12th, '12, 21:49

Menzo wrote:
BIG M wrote:do it genzo<3


My name is Menzo, get it right or go fuck yourself.

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Re: Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

Postby Kill You » Aug 12th, '12, 21:49

Bad Meets Evil got better reviews than Recovery. What do you think about that Aftermathers?
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Re: Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

Postby EminemBase » Aug 12th, '12, 21:51

AmmoHaze wrote:
EminemBase wrote:I don't want to be able to predict any aspect about it.

I don't want an album of 'life' subject-matter. I want some originality, some concepts. Art.


It goes back to the point if you want that whatever it is cos you not really specfic i'm sure you will get it. Those that wanted what they like such as Relapse style got that but it's about understanding most the fans who want and love the life subject matter, relate to it, connect we gonna get that obviously understand you 1 person outta 40-50 million that doesn't want it fam. But no 1 is neglected so why complain?

It's unrealistic to think Eminem gonna neglect his core fans we talking in The Eminem Shows case 20 million people Recovery 10 million or so people based on worldwide sales. Or the millions that purchaed Lose Yourself that do wanna hear the life type of music. It's un realistic totally thinking he gonna neglect the fans the core supporters based on all these stats.


Fam? lmao, you're such a troll. PS. I see you. I know. But I'll play :smoking:

Anyway - it's not about what you, I or anybody wants. Regardless of what his fans want to hear; an artist should only ever make art for themselves and the success of that art should be Darwinian - whoever likes it, likes it; whoever doesn't: doesn't.

That is truly organic, uncompromising art made with and succeeded by integrity.

If Eminem or anybody make music 'for' the fans aka they change their content or create something different to what they actually want to create, they've become a business. This mentality is a capitalist mentality; that's providing a product to demanding consumers...

That's a revolting way to think about art.

I can't wait until this useless monetary system collapses and we build a better society.
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Re: Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

Postby Notalius » Aug 12th, '12, 21:51

Kill You wrote:Bad Meets Evil got better reviews than Recovery. What do you think about that Aftermathers?


Encore > recovery :shifty:
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Re: Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

Postby AmmoHaze » Aug 12th, '12, 21:53

EminemBase wrote:
AmmoHaze wrote:it's not always about the shoot em, death murder music to make make a few people laugh or a joke about fries and burgers. Who ever likes that you get that in the first damn rasclart place as well you get ya Bad Meets Evil, you got ya Relapse. You as an Artist have to give your fans especially the core what they wanna hear some of us the things we go through we wanna hear from Eminem that he been through lifes deeper 4 some than others but don't complain 24/7 when you got your projects like BME for those that enjoy that kinda music.


Your perception of deep as just one dimensional introspection, is frustrating.

I have a friend just like this who only likes 'real' movies aka things that could 'really happen'. Well, if you want reality; watch a fucking documentary.

I don't listen to Eminem for a chronological update of his struggles.

You can be deep WHILST being creative and whilst making multiple points. Just plain writing about how you feel about something is about as simplistic as it gets.

"97 Bonnie and Clyde" expressed the love for his daughter and the hatred for his wife simultaneously, but creatively. It was a brilliant concept, executed ingeniously; informing the listener of the story unfolding, in BABY TALK; revealing one little sick detail at a time but... just, wow. Something like that is so much better than just a plain-out expression of feeling.

To me anyway. I can write how I feel. But creating something like that, is what makes Eminem.

People are so narrow-minded and unimaginative. I mean, christ... the amount of concepts shooting around in my brain are never-ending! so the amount that must be shooting around in the brain of Eminem must be amazing, and he has the talent to execute them on a ground-breaking level. To squander his gift on plain jane emotional rambling: YAWN, and: waste.



But the major point is what you like is diffrent to the 20 million people that like The Eminem Show so where does the complaining come from when you still get ya 97 Bonnie & Clyde
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Re: Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

Postby UofLCard » Aug 12th, '12, 21:53

AmmoHaze wrote:His father walking out on the family, asking him why, telling a story about seeing other kids shoot hoops, play in the park with their fathers and how that made him feel and wish he had his father to do those things with. Telling stories about seeing his mother not being able to pay the bills, rent, have no money and how at these times he neded his father.


His unccle ronnie and how his death affected him and how he can't wait to see him in heaven.


These two. I'm bummed that he didn't put that song that was about Ronnie on MMLP (or was it SSLP?).

I also want more straight up story-telling songs, like how Kim, Stan, and 97 B&C are.
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Re: Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

Postby EminemBase » Aug 12th, '12, 21:59

AmmoHaze wrote:
EminemBase wrote:
AmmoHaze wrote:it's not always about the shoot em, death murder music to make make a few people laugh or a joke about fries and burgers. Who ever likes that you get that in the first damn rasclart place as well you get ya Bad Meets Evil, you got ya Relapse. You as an Artist have to give your fans especially the core what they wanna hear some of us the things we go through we wanna hear from Eminem that he been through lifes deeper 4 some than others but don't complain 24/7 when you got your projects like BME for those that enjoy that kinda music.


Your perception of deep as just one dimensional introspection, is frustrating.

I have a friend just like this who only likes 'real' movies aka things that could 'really happen'. Well, if you want reality; watch a fucking documentary.

I don't listen to Eminem for a chronological update of his struggles.

You can be deep WHILST being creative and whilst making multiple points. Just plain writing about how you feel about something is about as simplistic as it gets.

"97 Bonnie and Clyde" expressed the love for his daughter and the hatred for his wife simultaneously, but creatively. It was a brilliant concept, executed ingeniously; informing the listener of the story unfolding, in BABY TALK; revealing one little sick detail at a time but... just, wow. Something like that is so much better than just a plain-out expression of feeling.

To me anyway. I can write how I feel. But creating something like that, is what makes Eminem.

People are so narrow-minded and unimaginative. I mean, christ... the amount of concepts shooting around in my brain are never-ending! so the amount that must be shooting around in the brain of Eminem must be amazing, and he has the talent to execute them on a ground-breaking level. To squander his gift on plain jane emotional rambling: YAWN, and: waste.


But the major point is what you like is diffrent to the 20 million people that like The Eminem Show so where does the complaining come from when you still get ya 97 Bonnie & Clyde


No the major point is that it doesn't matter what I like. Or any fan likes.

The reason that should never matter, is that the artist should make art for themselves. That's the only truly sane and integral way to make art. Anything else is a compromise.

PS. If emotional content is what makes Eminem great or popular: why do you think The Marshall Mathers LP is his best selling album? and the album that has gone down as his masterpiece? that album is a conceptual album chock-full with provocation, cartoonish and realistic violence, political and social commentary: barely any of it is true, plain, introspection.

So you say 20 million for The Eminem Show? try 22 for 'MMLP' :smoking: my taste wins!
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Re: Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

Postby AmmoHaze » Aug 12th, '12, 22:03

It's like telling a weed dealer yo stop selling the Kush, Lemon, Haze, Chronic etc just sell the mids or low grade mersh weed cos that specfic smoker can't handle the real piff and only likes the lower quality cos the piff too strong for them


Dealer gonna look @ the customer like he/she crazy and say you get your low grade weed while my Kush goes out real fast cos that's what most the consumers want and buy so in what position are you to complain about Eminem making music that sells where most his listeners want it from him while you still get your project like BME that is for a select few compared to what most want hence it selling a million.


Not to mentin Eminem writting about his life helps his listeners who feel it get through the same exact situations he went through it helps him also get things of his chest so i don't see what argument you have EminemBase? your argument to me seems more based on something very diffrent where seeing a project lets say The Eminem Show get the universal acclaim from sales to critics to reviews more so than a type of style you like from Eminem and that frustrates you cos it's not what you like. While what you like sells less and in general is less loved with in the publics perception of dope music.
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